^ semantics (go ahead, google it....i'll wait).
the salient point is that that it's very likely that republicans were involved in this investigation of trump....and it would be so great if it was either the RNC or the mercers.
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^ semantics (go ahead, google it....i'll wait).
the salient point is that that it's very likely that republicans were involved in this investigation of trump....and it would be so great if it was either the RNC or the mercers.
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Sure not what it sounds like to me. Sounds more like a McCain type.Quote:
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But hey, you keep hoping.
I realize the Dems were not the only source of funding,as for who the Republican was no one seems to know. Your right that in it's self makes nothing inaccurate but it does show how far the Dems were willing to go to win the election,let alone colluding against Bernie in the primaries, evil bunch of people in that Clinton organization.Quote:
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What would be be so great about the RNC'S involvement,Trump will still be president. Trump said in the beginning he was not in it to appease the republicans and that has been quite evident since his election. I am sure he would have run as an independent but he knew he could not win as an independent.
But he would have screwed any Republican's chance, so they had to basically bend over and take it.Quote:
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Hence the "pledging" bullshit.
first of all the "dodgy dossier" has nothing to so with a republican in the primaries who hired fusion gps to dig up some dirt (on trump) as chistopher steele wasn't hired to investigate until after the dnc/democrats hired fusion gps.
well, they (dnc and hillary campaign) paid 9 million to Perkin Coie and Perkin Coie hired Fusion GPS who hired steele who threw around some dodgy cash in moscow to get some russian spooks to dish some dirt on trump which produced the so-called "dodgy dossier".Quote:
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Originally Posted by RPETER65
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...russia-inquiry
The person familiar with the matter, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss confidential client matters, said the arrangement was brokered by Marc Elias, a lawyer for the Clinton campaign and the DNC, and his law firm of Perkins Coie.
apparently, marc elias will provide a lot of useful info to congress.Quote:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...russia-inquiry
When Fusion approached Elias, it had already been doing research work on Trump for a client during the GOP primary. The identity of the original client has not been revealed.
It is unclear what Fusion GPS had dug up by the time law firm hired it in April 2016.
According to a copy of the dossier published by BuzzFeed last year, the earliest report from Steele dates to June 2016, two months later.
what will be more interesting and could make watergate (nixon admin breaking into dnc hq) look like kids playing with dolls,
is IF it is proven that the obama admin (samantha power, susan rice, etc.) used the dodgy dossier in a fisa court to get permission to spy on members of the trump campaign, like carter page (who was tangentially involved with the campaign).
if true, like watergate, the obama admin will have been spying on the trump campaign, using the "dodgy dossier" (paid for by the dnc/hillary campaign) as an excuse before the fisa court.
this will take a while to figure out and the truth willl likely come out next year, just before the november elections for congress.
:doglol:
laughing because hillary and democratic supporters (like ant and bsnub) have been screaming about a russia/trump conspiracy theory for one year and the ones who will go to jail will likely be from the cabinet of the obama admin ("unmasking with dodgy evidence for political purposes").
let's compare the above with what hillary and democratic supporters (like ant and bsnub) have been screaming about for the last year: the meeting of don jr. with "the russians".
as mentioned before (on this thread):
the meeting which promised info (it didn't provide any) about hillary's ties with the russians.
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/a-timel...ussian-lawyer/
Rob Goldstone, a British-born music publicist and former tabloid reporter, emails Trump Jr. saying that Emin Agalarov, an Azerbaijani Moscow-based singer and businessman Trump Jr. knew from the 2013 Miss Universe pageant in Moscow, had just called Goldstone "with something very interesting."
"The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with [Emin Agalarov's] father this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father."
Straight white males, need not apply....
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DNC: White men shouldn't apply for tech jobs
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Democratic National Chair candidate, Tom Perez, addresses the audience as the Democratic National Committee holds an election to choose their next chairperson at their winter meeting in Atlanta, Georgia. February 25, 2017. REUTERS/Chris Berry - RC1FEF045460
White men need not apply.
That’s the message from a Democratic National Committee data services manager, currently on the hunt to filll multiple vacancies in the tech department.
The political organization, which routinely makes grand statements about inclusion, recently sent an email to its employees looking to recruit people for eight open spots including IT Systems Administrator, Product Manager and Chief Security Officer.
Though the Oct. 30 email says that the DNC is looking for a “staff of diverse voices and life experiences,” it apparently doesn’t mean white men.
DNC’s Data Service Manager Madeleine Leader purportedly wrote in an email that the desire for diversity excludes “cisgender straight white males.”
Leader adds, “I personally would prefer that you not forward to cisgender straight white males, as they are already in the majority.”
Cisgender is a term for people whose gender identity matches the sex that they were assigned to at birth.
“The email in question was not authorized by the DNC nor was it authorized by senior leadership," spokesman Michael Tyler told Fox News. "All hiring decisions at the DNC are made consistent with the DNC’s commitment to equal employment opportunity and hiring an inclusive and talented staff that reflects the coalition of the Democratic Party, because our diversity is our greatest strength.”
DNC: White men shouldn't apply for tech jobs | Fox News
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what's the lie, ant?Quote:
Originally Posted by AntRobertson
you haven't been saying this for months and months?
"wait, wait, just wait until the investigations are finished and then the conspiracy theory about trump colluding with the russians will be proven true."
or something to that effect?
USA = the best reality show in the world.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3W2GIZ8rN0
an ad run against the republican in the virginia governors race:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVckRJvuBQY
^ and?
it's going to get ugly in 2018.
we'll see what happens, but from what i've read:
republicans plan to be positive (obviously) about the country, the economy and everything in general.
while democrats plan to run negative political ads worse than have ever been seen in america.
we'll see which the average joe responds to.
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you seem to enjoy just making shit up and posting it on this forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Farangrakthai
nothing wrong with that i suppose....but i have to wonder why you bother.
go on then, ray.Quote:
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what national political ad (in recent decades) is worse than the one i posted? (not saying it wasn't effective)
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you're going to have to try harder than that.
:chitown:
here's a bit of advice.....if you don't want other posters calling you out for just making shit up.....don't make shit up.
ray, if you don't think that ad is going "extremely negative" to scare the voters into voting democratic, then, well.....you need to watch it again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVckRJvuBQY
btw, nice moving of the goal posts...
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whatever....carry on.....you seem to be amusing yourself.
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where is your evidence of this "plan"?
let me help you with that.....you don't have any.
because you're just making shit up.
which is fine i suppose....but you should expect to occasionally get called out on it.
as i said....carry on.
ok, ray, i didn't say it's a fact that democrats plan to go negative, i mentioned that i've read it and it is evidenced by what happened in virginia which the likes of bsnub are ecstatic about, apparently.Quote:
Originally Posted by raycarey
one of these days, you'll get a handle of this forum thing, ray: it's debating opinions.
if you want to just post news stories, i'm guessing the speakers corner ain't for you.
anyways, ray, in your opinion, the democrats will be positive with their campaigning next year (contrary to what happened in virginia)?
how do you figure?
IN YOUR OPINION, OF COURSE
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WTF? i made the question easier for you, ray.Quote:
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what political ad has been worse in recent decades?
if you wish to answer which one is worse in the history of america, go for it ray.
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For any Republican to bitch about negative campaigns is hypocrisy at its worst.
no, you didn't mention that you read it.....this is what you posted:Quote:
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democrats plan to run negative political ads worse than have ever been seen in america.
and this was based on nothing but your uninformed opinion.....you just made it up because.....well who knows why...i doubt you even know why.
part of your problem (and I stress only part) is that you really don't know much about american politics or (more importantly in this case) american political history. you're just another rube who has attached himself to the trump cult of personality.
but sure go ahead and show us the source where you read that:
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democrats plan to run negative political ads worse than have ever been seen in america.
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Why don't you link the article then?
Exactly and his comment that the Dems ran a negative ad is really absurd compared to the slash and burn negative campaign that Ed Gillespie ran. It is typical right wing hypocrisy at its finest especially since Republicans invented negative ads.Quote:
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Gillespie rolls out ‘Kill, Rape, Control’ attack ad against Northam
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.ed4098a1e647
well, things are going to get interesting now that sessions is thinking about appointing a special counsel to investigate cllinton.
dems/mainstream media/deep state want to play hardball with trump regarding a conspiracy theory about russia/trump collusion to defeat hillary?
now sessions is taking up republican congressmen's requests to investigate uranium one and the clintion foundation.
so, the dems who have been so happy about a special prosecutor investigating the trump campaign,
might not be so gleeful when dirt is being dug up (witnesses face perjury charges for not telling the truth, of course) on the other side of the fence, as it were.
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The department, in a letter sent to the House Judiciary Committee, said the prosecutors would examine allegations that donations to the Clinton Foundation were tied to a 2010 decision by the Obama administration to allow a Russian nuclear agency to buy Uranium One, a company that owned access to uranium in the United States, and other issues.
Although Mr. Sessions has recused himself from all matters related to the election, he and the deputy attorney general, Rod J. Rosenstein, will oversee the prosecutors’ decision to appoint the special counsel, the letter said.
“These senior prosecutors will report directly to the attorney general and the deputy attorney general, as appropriate, and will make recommendations as to whether any matters not currently under investigation should be opened, whether any matters currently under investigation require further resources, or whether any matters merit a special counsel,” Stephen E. Boyd, an assistant attorney general, said in the letter to the House Judiciary Committee.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.4e8701548a57
Attorney General Jeff Sessions is entertaining the idea of appointing a second special counsel to investigate a host of Republican concerns — including alleged wrongdoing by the Clinton Foundation and the controversial sale of a uranium company to Russia — and has directed senior federal prosecutors to explore at least some of the matters and report back to him and his top deputy, according to a letter obtained by The Washington Post.
The revelation came in a response by the Justice Department to an inquiry from House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte