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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    No matter which you supported in the past US election, the veracity of electronic voting and even more so the counting of such votes is a very real concern. Has been since the advent of the touch screen voting machines.

    The year 2000 was the last time I voted. Specifically because that was the year touch screen machines came to my precinct. I voted and then asked for a paper receipt showing how my ballot was cast. The election worker told me "oh these machines can't do that." I said to myself "well I won't be back" and I haven't been.

    Yeah the establishment is going to tell you these systems are fail safe and fraud proof. Anyone who still believes them about anything is the sucker.


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    very good point,

    and one developer of the Siebold machine was on records saying they were rigged, back in 2003

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    Quote Originally Posted by longway
    The dims are trying every trick in the book to derail an orderly transition, and delegitimize the elections that were held.
    You either have a very vivid imagination or you are extremely stupid. I put my money on the latter.

    The 'dims', as you refer to us, have no interest in this recount process other than as observers. Your desire to drum up a story here just shows how desperate you are to keep things polarized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by longway
    The dims are trying every trick in the book to derail an orderly transition, and delegitimize the elections that were held.
    You either have a very vivid imagination or you are extremely stupid. I put my money on the latter.

    The 'dims', as you refer to us, have no interest in this recount process other than as observers. Your desire to drum up a story here just shows how desperate you are to keep things polarized.
    Of course if one state flips as a result of obvious voting fraud, then the whole election is called into question.

    My wouldn't that just be fun!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly
    and one developer of the Siebold machine was on records saying they were rigged, back in 2003
    It's "Diebold", the same clowns that make all those ATMs. Oh, and they mostly run on Win XP so it's hardly surprising they are ridiculously easy to knock over...

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    nothing to do with the OS dummy,

    the hacking is programmed in, you can choose the winner before the vote is cast according to that developer

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    Jill Stein is a Complete Idiot

    Aren't they all! Damn, PJW just keeps nailing it!

    No UFOs here!

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    She's a snowflake, but she's no idiot. Wiki-
    In 1973, Stein graduated magna cum laude from Harvard College, where she studied psychology, sociology, and anthropology. She then attended Harvard Medical School and graduated in 1979

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    She's a vaxxer, so of course she's an idiot; all vaxxers are.

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    mods, please delete this thread. this poster is obviously obsessed and is starting multiple threads on the same subject to vent his madness on this subject.

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    Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by slackula
    vaxxer
    Ok, what is a "vaxxer" ?? Seriously, because that's a new one to me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by slackula
    vaxxer
    Ok, what is a "vaxxer" ?? Seriously, because that's a new one to me...
    Technically I should have written anti-vaxxer but I'm lazy.

    Here:
    A person who is opposed to vaccination, typically a parent who does not wish to vaccinate their child. 'experts say several diseases that are avoidable are making a comeback due to anti-vaxxers who refuse to vaccinate their kids
    anti-vaxxer - definition of anti-vaxxer in English | Oxford Dictionaries

    Think about it like this: If you take medical advice from scientific luminaries such as Jenny McCarthy (who admittedly had a decent rack back in the day) then you probably need to see a doctor.

    JJ is an anti-vaxxer and thereby probably an idiot too, although he may only be retarded.

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    Anti-vaccination movement - RationalWiki
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    This time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by longway
    The dims are trying every trick in the book to derail an orderly transition, and delegitimize the elections that were held.
    You either have a very vivid imagination or you are extremely stupid. I put my money on the latter.

    The 'dims', as you refer to us, have no interest in this recount process other than as observers. Your desire to drum up a story here just shows how desperate you are to keep things polarized.
    Yeah if by observer you mean drooling retards hoping for a miracle. Of course they are going to put a gloss on it, the fact they haven't disowned such a spectacle shows how desperate clunkton is, she must have sacrificed 2-3 kids already, hoping to sway the Prince of darkness to intervene in her favour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by longway
    The dims are trying every trick in the book to derail an orderly transition, and delegitimize the elections that were held.
    You either have a very vivid imagination or you are extremely stupid. I put my money on the latter.

    The 'dims', as you refer to us, have no interest in this recount process other than as observers. Your desire to drum up a story here just shows how desperate you are to keep things polarized.
    I am a drooling regard.


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    Quote Originally Posted by slackula
    A person who is opposed to vaccination, typically a parent who does not wish to vaccinate their child. 'experts say several diseases that are avoidable are making a comeback due to anti-vaxxers who refuse to vaccinate their kids
    ahhh...ok thanks for the answer. In regard to that, I think the old school vaxx like I got when I was a kid were fine. All the new ones around are another way for big pharma to shear the sheep. And imo some of the new ones have questionable health benefits and ingredients as well. Especially some of those that infants are 'required' to get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longway View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by longway
    The dims are trying every trick in the book to derail an orderly transition, and delegitimize the elections that were held.
    You either have a very vivid imagination or you are extremely stupid. I put my money on the latter.

    The 'dims', as you refer to us, have no interest in this recount process other than as observers. Your desire to drum up a story here just shows how desperate you are to keep things polarized.
    I am a drooling regard.

    You know if you want to try and edit other peoples' posts, you should learn how to spell, you fucking RETARD.


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    Seems this recount bidness is a very tetchy subject. Now the Green Party(or at least one of them) is supposedly throwing Jill Stein under the bus. Don't want nothing to do with her recount effort.

    Greens Speak Out on Recount and Our Commitment to an Independent Party - Flowers for Senate

    There are significant electoral reforms needed to make elections more democratic and more representative of the people. While we support electoral reforms, including how the vote is counted, we do not support the current recount being undertaken by Jill Stein.

    The decision to pursue a recount was not made in a democratic or a strategic way, nor did it respect the established decision making processes and structures of the Green Party of the United States (GPUS). The recount has created confusion about the relationship between the Green and Democratic parties because the states chosen for the recount are only states in which Hillary Clinton lost. There were close races in other states such as New Hampshire and Minnesota where Clinton won, but which were not part of the recount. And this recount does not address the disenfranchisement of voters; it recounts votes that were already counted rather than restoring the suffrage of voters who were prevented from voting.

    As a candidate, Dr. Stein has the right to call for a recount. However, we urge the GPUS to distance itself from any appearance of support for either Democrats or Republicans. We are well aware of the undemocratic actions taken during the primaries by the DNC and the Clinton campaign. Greens cannot be perceived to be allied with such a party.

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    A bit like the condemned demanding to see the blank round in the firing squad.
    We have compulsory voting so at least we don't end up with someone who won 50% of 50%. Still doesn't stop us getting a load of self serving unrepresentative retards and a disproportionate amount of ex lawyers.
    Maybe the kiwis can enlighten us on their voting system and if it works any better across the dutch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longway
    Yeah if by observer you mean drooling retards hoping for a miracle. Of course they are going to put a gloss on it, the fact they haven't disowned such a spectacle shows how desperate clunkton is, she must have sacrificed 2-3 kids already, hoping to sway the Prince of darkness to intervene in her favour.
    You don't really function very well without having a real focus for your poison. Clinton is happily taking walks and playing with her grandchild. She is not going to be president. She is not going to win a re-count. Nobody actually believes that she will. Yet you keep dragging her corpse out for anal sex. Get a life or focus on the real problem - Donald Trump. He has become a laughing stock with his 3am tweets whining and complaining about millions of illegal votes for Clinton.

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    GEMS = Global Election Management System

    GEMS Vote counting systems...
    GEMS Election Management System | Election Systems & Software

    GEMS Tabulation Database Design Issues in Relation to Voting Systems Certification Standards
    http://static.usenix.org/event/evt07.../ryan/ryan.pdf

    Abstract

    This paper analyzes the Diebold Election Systems, Inc. election management software (GEMS) using
    publicly accessible postings of GEMS election databases. It finds that the GEMS architecture fails to
    conform to fundamental database design principles and software industry standards for ensuring accurate data.
    Thus, in election tabulations, aspects of the
    GEMS design can lead to, or fail to protect against, erroneous reporting of election results.
    Further,
    GEMS’s dependence on Microsoft’s JET technology introduces additional risks to data accuracy and security.

    Despite these technical and systemic deficiencies, GEMS received approval as complying with Federal
    Voting System 2002 standards. Questions then arise concerning the adequacy of the 2002 and 2005
    regulatory standards. The paper concludes that the standards structurally encourage and reward election
    system vendors for using less exacting database design standards.
    Inside a U.S. Election Vote Counting Program

    US Election Shocker: Is This How The Vote Will Be Rigged?

    “GEMS vote-counting systems are and have been operated under five trade names: Global Election Systems, Diebold Election Systems, Premier Election Systems, Dominion Voting Systems, and Election Systems & Software, in addition to a number of private regional subcontractors. At the time of this writing, this system is used statewide in Alaska, Connecticut, Georgia, Mississippi, New Hampshire, Utah and Vermont, and for counties in Arizona, California, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, Washington, Wisconsin and Wyoming. It is also used in Canada.”

    Elections Expert Bev Harris Explains How Some People's Votes Count More than Others
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    Less than 3 weeks after the vote, and almost two months ahead of January 20, is too far down the road?
    No - the important date is December 19th. That's when the electoral college votes have to be in. So, funnily enough, Donald Trump still isn't confirmed as President. Theoretically, he could still be rejected as unsuitable. This is very unlikely to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayZee
    This is very unlikely to happen.
    Totally unlikely, just like a state flipping after one of these re-counts.

    Talking about it all is just a diversion because Trump supporters don't want the subject to be about his berserk acccusations and lies on Twitter.

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    The last I heard on the Wisconsin recount is trumps vote is up bye 126.

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    News is now out on Michigan and 2 huge detroit counties that Hillary won overwhelmingly in wayne and another seem to have huge vote discrepancies. There seem to of been 30% more votes counted and sent in then actually voted in those counties. And this means trumps majority in Michigan would actually be much larger. And this corruption for the dems is probably what trump was referring to.

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    Lessig: 20 Trump electors could flip - POLITICO

    Larry Lessig, a Harvard University constitutional law professor who made a brief run for the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination, claimed Tuesday that 20 Republican members of the Electoral College are considering voting against Donald Trump, a figure that would put anti-Trump activists more than halfway toward stalling Trump’s election.

    Lessig’s anti-Trump group, “Electors Trust,” has been offering pro bono legal counsel to Republican presidential electors considering ditching Trump and has been acting as a clearinghouse for electors to privately communicate their intentions.
    more at the link...

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