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    They weren't hard to pin down when the GAO issued a report on Presidential travel. In fact estimates seem to be on the low side.

    For the President’s four trips to Mar-a-Lago from February 3, 2017 to
    March 5, 2017, we estimate that federal agencies incurred costs of about
    $13.6 million.
    You can read it here while you're waiting for your immunity to kick in.

    https://www.gao.gov/assets/700/696512.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    They weren't hard to pin down when the GAO issued a report on Presidential travel. In fact estimates seem to be on the low side.
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    $147,000,000
    You’ll never find a real source that says trumps golf cost 147 million dollars, which is why you didn’t post one.

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    ^ The government accounting office is a not a "real source"?

    Your red hat is on too tight, shorty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sick
    So what should he do then?
    If the lying sack of shit had been true to his word, you probably wouldn’t be making excuses for the Grifter-in-Chief.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    So we care about wasting taxpayer money now do we.
    What's that supposed to mean?
    Just pointing out what a waste of money that flyover was.
    Do you disagree?

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    Quote Originally Posted by happynz View Post
    The government accounting office is a not a "real source"?
    The GAO is not the one saying that trumps golf cost 147 million dollars, because it is in reality probably less than half of that. Harry in all his wisdom is pulling these numbers from this site:

    Trump Golf Count

    Not the GAO.

    Quote Originally Posted by beachbound View Post
    If the lying sack of shit had been true to his word, you probably wouldn’t be making excuses for the Grifter-in-Chief.
    How is it "making excuses" when I simply point out that people are wrong, misinformed, or lying? Its both legal and normal for presidents to charge the secret service for accommodation. Trump, Obama, Biden, you name it, they've all done it. Trump doing it more is not grift or illegal or wrong, but thats whats broken about American "democracy" and American "journalism" today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Do you disagree?
    Yeah, I disagree and I think that people like that sort of thing unless it's Trump, then certain groups will hate anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    How is it "making excuses" when I simply point out that people are wrong, misinformed, or lying? Its both legal and normal for presidents to charge the secret service for accommodation. Trump, Obama, Biden, you name it, they've all done it. Trump doing it more is not grift or illegal or wrong, but thats whats broken about American "democracy" and American "journalism" today.
    Where have Obama or Biden done it?



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    Trump still charging taxpayers to put up his own Secret Service agents in his hotels | The Independent


    Secret Service has paid rates as high as $650 a night for rooms at Trump’s properties


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...a4e_story.html

    hmmm.... slippery and crooked SOB is he not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Where have Obama or Biden done it?
    Biden:

    Biden collects rent from Secret Service - Washington Times

    Obama:

    Secret Service spent millions to protect Obama during travel

    Fun Fact:

    Obama restores lifetime Secret Service for former presidents

    Obama restores lifetime Secret Service for former presidents - CBS News

    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Comments Slick?
    My comment would be to ask you what he should do? Hes got protection for life and unless he pays for it out of his own pocket, the only alternative is for the taxpayer to foot the bill which is completely normal. If you manage to become president, even, as is claimed, the worst one ever, literally hitler, you are still going to be afforded certain perks until you die and the taxpayer will pay for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    Biden:

    Biden collects rent from Secret Service - Washington Times

    Obama:

    Secret Service spent millions to protect Obama during travel

    Fun Fact:

    Obama restores lifetime Secret Service for former presidents

    Obama restores lifetime Secret Service for former presidents - CBS News



    My comment would be to ask you what he should do? Hes got protection for life and unless he pays for it out of his own pocket, the only alternative is for the taxpayer to foot the bill which is completely normal. If you manage to become president, even, as is claimed, the worst one ever, literally hitler, you are still going to be afforded certain perks until you die and the taxpayer will pay for it.
    You're a bit thick aren't you. The issue is not that the taxpayer is paying for it, it's that the EX president is PROFITING from it. Unless he's giving them those rooms at cost which I doubt considering what what a slimy grifter he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    it's that the EX president is PROFITING from it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    he's giving them those rooms at cost which I doubt
    Ah yeah, so you look at all the available evidence, past presidents and vice presidents doing the exact same thing, and you make the active decision throw it all out the window and fabricate your own opinion to get angry about.

    This is the problem with people. You guys sit around mad as fuck at stuff that isnt even real. Then get mad as fuck when people point out that what you're mad about isnt even really true or isnt the whole picture of the situation, then you get mad as fuck at the person trying to point it out to you.

    Its very weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    Ah yeah, so you look at all the available evidence, past presidents and vice presidents doing the exact same thing, and you make the active decision throw it all out the window and fabricate your own opinion to get angry about.

    This is the problem with people. You guys sit around mad as fuck at stuff that isnt even real. Then get mad as fuck when people point out that what you're mad about isnt even really true or isnt the whole picture of the situation, then you get mad as fuck at the person trying to point it out to you.

    Its very weird.
    I'm not mad, just pointing out what a grifter that orange faced lying asshole is. Okay now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    I'm not mad, just pointing out what a grifter that orange faced lying asshole is. Okay now?
    Was it grift when then vice president Joe Biden did the exact same thing at his cottage in Delaware?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    Harry in all his wisdom is pulling these numbers from this site:

    Not the GAO.
    Guess what numbnuts: This is a verbatim quote from the GAO report you moron.

    For the President’s four trips to Mar-a-Lago from February 3, 2017 to
    March 5, 2017, we estimate that federal agencies incurred costs of about
    $13.6 million.
    Maybe you should try reading it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    Was it grift when then vice president Joe Biden did the exact same thing at his cottage in Delaware?
    This is not the Biden thread though is it.


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    Why I’m Sure Trump Will Run for President in 2024

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    Credit...Illustration by Arsh Raziuddin/The New York Times; photograph by Mark Wilson/Getty Images

    By Michael Wolff (NYT)
    Mr. Wolff is the author of three books about the Trump presidency.

    To write three books in four years about Donald Trump has been an immersion into his obsessions and fixations. This is why I know the obvious: Donald Trump will run for president again.

    This spring, in another of his compulsive bids for attention — indifferent to whether it is good or bad — he hosted me at Mar-a-Lago, even after I had written two unflattering books about him (one whose publication he tried to stop), for an interview and dinner. After dinner, I asked about his plans for a presidential library, the traditional retirement project and fund-raising scheme of ex-presidents. There was a flash of confusion on his uniquely readable face, and then anger, aroused, I figured, by the implication of what I seemed to be saying — that his time in office was past.
    “No way, no way,” he snarled, “no way.”

    It is an existential predicament: He can’t be Donald Trump without a claim on the presidency. He can’t hold the attention and devotion of the Republican Party if he is not both once and future king — and why would he ever give that up? Indeed, it seemed to be that I was strategically seated in the lobby of Mar-a-Lago when I arrived precisely so I could overhear the efforts by a Republican delegation to court and grovel before Mr. Trump and to observe his dismissive dominance over them.
    More than a bit of his subsequent conversation with me was about his contempt for any Republican who might be less than absolute in his or her devotion to him — after all, he had the power to make or break the people who have since disappointed him (like Senator Mitch McConnell and Justice Brett Kavanaugh). He seemed not so much paranoid about challenges to him but warlike, savoring his future retributions.

    He repeatedly returns to his grudge against his once obsequious vice president with relish; Mike Pence has become more public about his own political ambitions. In his telling, it is Mr. Pence whose actions confirmed “the steal,” by his refusal to overturn the electoral vote count, over which he presided in January in the Senate. I believe he will run again just to stop the men who, in his view, helped take the presidency from him from trying to get it for themselves. The reports that reach him of the West Wing and members of his administration who refuse to subscribe to the idea of “the steal” only feeds his fury and determination to punish all doubters — “some very weak people who have worked for me but won’t in the future,” as he told me.

    Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida has become another frequent subject at Mr. Trump’s Bedminster, N.J., golf club, where the former president is spending the summer away from the Florida heat. Many members of Trumpworld believe Mr. DeSantis, who came in second to Mr. Trump in a CPAC straw poll this month, might, unbelievably, run for the 2024 nomination even if Mr. Trump runs. The idea that Mr. DeSantis, who Mr. Trump believes he “made” by his endorsement, might not accept his dependence on and obligation to Mr. Trump would be a personal affront that must be met. Mr. Trump pointedly blew off the governor’s request that he postpone a Florida rally in the aftermath of the Surfside building collapse. Clear message: The governor is not the boss of him. (Mr. DeSantis has denied making this request.)

    The continued career of Mr. McConnell, to whom Mr. Trump has not spoken since vilifying him with a heap of obscenity after Mr. McConnell acknowledged Joe Biden’s victory, is unfinished business. (Trump aides believe the two are likely to never speak again.)

    Mr. Trump believes that Mr. McConnell retained his Senate seat in 2020 only because of his support. The war against Mr. McConnell is a war about who controls the Republican Party — if it’s Mr. Trump’s party, it can’t be Mr. McConnell’s. If candidates win because of his endorsements, thereby making Mr. Trump himself the ultimate winner, and inevitable front-runner, then it’s surely his party. Mr. Trump, whose political muscle helped oust some Republican enemies from office in 2018, is confident about evicting Mr. McConnell once back in power. (I doubt he pays attention to the fact that Mr. McConnell was re-elected to a six-year term and has a reasonable chance of becoming the Senate majority leader again.)

    Many Democrats believe that the legal pursuit of the former president’s family business in New York, and other cases, including the investigation of his attempt to overturn election results in Georgia, might seriously impede his political future. But in Mr. Trump’s logic, this will run the opposite way: Running for president is the best way to directly challenge the prosecutors.

    Mr. Trump also believes he has a magic bullet. In his telling, the Republicans almost took back the House in 2020 because of his “telerallies,” telephone conference calls in congressional districts that attracted in some instances tens of thousands of callers. Who has that draw? he asked me, nearly smacking his lips. In 2022, with his draw, the Republicans, he is certain, will retake the House with his chosen slate of candidates. And indeed, this actually might be true.
    But perhaps most important, there is his classic hucksterism, and his synoptic U.S.P. — unique selling proposition. In 2016 it was “the wall.” For 2022 and 2024 he will have another proposition available: “the steal,” a rallying cry of rage and simplicity.

    For Democrats, who see him exiled to Mar-a-Lago, stripped of his key social media platforms and facing determined prosecutors, his future seems risible if not pathetic. But this is Donald Trump, always ready to strike back harder than he has been struck, to blame anyone but himself, to silence any doubts with the sound of his own voice, to take what he believes is his and, most of all, to seize all available attention.

    Sound the alarm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    Sound the alarm.
    Meh. He will lose and sink the GOP ship of fools with him. Bring it on.

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    I bet the Taliban are more scared of Trump than Biden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by havnfun View Post
    I bet the Taliban are more scared of Trump than Biden.
    Aren't we all ?

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    Yes, So was Kim. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by havnfun View Post
    I bet the Taliban are more scared of Trump than Biden.

    'Trump is a weak man's idea of a strong man...'

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    Dont know why Trump is worthy of a comment. He is done and dusted and thus closes an embarassing chapter of American History wher he belongs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    Dont know why Trump is worthy of a comment. He is done and dusted and thus closes an embarassing chapter of American History wher he belongs.
    Wish that were true, but it sadly is not. He's got full control of the Republican Party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    Dont know why Trump is worthy of a comment. He is done and dusted and thus closes an embarassing chapter of American History wher he belongs.
    You just hold on right there fellah, didn't he take over the presidency last Saturday?

    That's what my parler buddies were telling me.

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    Did we used to have the most beautiful, hottest, most sexy, elegant first lady ever.





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