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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    I'd agree, unity.
    So Republicans, you first. Decry this atrocious attack on democracy, admit the election was not fraudulent, tell your mob down your guns, tell your mob to calm down and that you want unity and take whatever other steps you need to take to achieve unity.

    Or they could say stand back and stand by...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Trump has now been impeached twice, lost the popular vote twice, lost the House, lost the Senate, and a lame-duck one-term President who lost in a landslide.

    SO. MUCH. WINNING!
    I wonder if they're sick of it yet.

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    Largest bipartisan impeachment in US history


    start at 2:19



    Little extra........

    The daily COVID-19 death toll in the United States hit a record 4,327 on Tuesday, according to a Johns Hopkins University tally: US sets grim record as 4,327 daily COVID deaths reported | Coronavirus pandemic News | Al Jazeera
    Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Trump has now been impeached twice, lost the popular vote twice, lost the House, lost the Senate, and a lame-duck one-term President who lost in a landslide.

    SO. MUCH. WINNING!

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    Just love this image ...

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    Trump is less an aberration and more a creation of America.(Reuters: Tom Brenner)


    A few Dementors could do the trick ... that's assuming Trump actually has a soul.

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    Last edited by David48atTD; 14-01-2021 at 10:03 AM.

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    Was looking for something else, but given Arnie's recent comment re Trump ...

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    "to bar Trump from office"


    Not to be mistaken such "barring" of 49%-POTUS with barring e.g. of 2%-Navalny's from election in Russia. (not to mention the 20%-Svetlana)

    Not to have it decided by 49%-Mob, we have a MSM and social media, they know what is right and what is wrong for the folk...





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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    "to bar Trump from office"


    Not to be mistaken such "barring" of 49%-POTUS with barring e.g. of 2%-Navalny's from election in Russia. (not to mention the 20%-Svetlana)

    Not to have it decided by 49%-Mob, we have a MSM and social media, they know what is right and what is wrong for the folk...
    ...100% of that makes no fucking sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Not to have it decided by 49%-Mob, we have a MSM and social media, they know what is right and what is wrong for the folk...
    And you have QAnon and YouTube. Take away their twitter account and they turn into cry babies.

    Btw, Wednesday’s attack on Congress was confirmation that we are dealing with fascists. And if history teaches us one lesson about dealing with fascists, it is the futility of appeasement. Giving in to fascists doesn’t pacify them. It just encourages them to go further. Fascism has no place in this world. It is the enemy of humanity. They need to be tolerated like bedbugs and crushed.

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    So we should treat Fascists as Fascists would treat us? As in, Fascist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    ...100% of that makes no fucking sense.

    You could use that as a reply on any of his posts and it will not need editing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    So we should treat Fascists as Fascists would treat us? As in, Fascist.
    I take it you've never lived under a facist regime, you silly arse.

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    2. Who broke ranks?

    Ten Republicans stepped outside party lines and voted against the President.

    They were these representatives:


    • Liz Cheney, the number three Republican in the House of Representatives. She said Trump "summoned this mob, assembled the mob, and lit the flame of this attack"
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    • David Valadao, the representative from California said Trump's "inciting rhetoric was un-American, abhorrent, and absolutely an impeachable offense"
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    • Adam Kinzinger, an Illinois representative who is a frequent Trump critic. He said it was a "sobering moment" to cross the floor
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    • John Katko, who was the first member of the House Republican caucus to say he would impeach
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    • Jaime Herrera Beutler, a moderate from Washington state, who said the evidence was "indisputable"
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    • Fred Upton, a representative from Michigan who has disputed Trump's election fraud claims
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    • Anthony Gonzalez, an Ohio Republican who said on Twitter that the full scope of events "including the President's lack of response as the United States Capitol was under attack" compelled him to support impeachment
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    • Tom Rice, who represents a North Carolina district which is strongly pro-Trump. On Twitter he said he'd "backed this President through thick and thin" but this "utter failure" was "inexcusable"
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    • Dan Newhouse, who said he would impeach during the debate, drawing applause from Democrats
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    • Peter Meijer,a new House member who said he was casting his vote with a "heavy heart" but because he believed that Trump "bears responsibility for inciting the violent acts of insurrection"
    Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago ...


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    Irrelevant as it was a shoo in anyway.

    The senate is a different story.

    I doubt even turtlehead has the balls to vote for impeachment.

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    ˜Isolated And Angry" Trump Refuses To Pay Rudy Giuliani For Legal Work

    Delicious.

    President Donald Trump is reportedly taking out his frustrations on his personal attorney and longtime friend, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani.


    And he’s doing it in the classic Trump fashion: by refusing to pay him.


    The Washington Post said Trump is trying to stiff Giuliani, who has spent the past months traveling the country and spreading wild conspiracy theories about the November election on behalf of the president.


    Citing two unnamed officials, the newspaper said Trump has not only refused to pay Giuliani’s legal fees but has told aides that all reimbursement requests for travel and other expenses need to go through him.


    The Post said Trump was unhappy with Giuliani’s demand for $20,000 a day in fees and “has privately expressed concern” with some of his attorney’s moves.


    The former mayor last year denied seeking that specific amount, claiming a much more unusual fee structure instead.


    “I never asked for $20,000,” he told The New York Times in November. “The arrangement is we’ll work it out at the end.”


    The Times on Wednesday confirmed the latest Post report, adding that White House officials were blocking Giuliani’s calls to Trump.


    Giuliani last week demanded “trial by combat” during a rally in Washington as Congress met to certify the election results that he had been challenging in courts on behalf of Trump, who later urged the crowd at the rally to march on the Capitol.


    Shortly after, the Trump supporters stormed the Capitol in a deadly siege that disrupted the congressional proceedings for hours and forced lawmakers into hiding as the mob ransacked the building.


    The president’s critics on Twitter took note of his growing feud with his attorney:
    Report: 'Isolated And Angry' Trump Refuses To Pay Rudy Giuliani For Legal Work | HuffPost

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    This never seemed like a good arrangement to have with someone who is famous for stiffing people who work for him.


    "The arrangement is, we’ll work it out at the end.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I take it you've never lived under a facist regime, you silly arse.
    Erm, excuse me? Post-coup Thailand? HK SAR?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Erm, excuse me? Post-coup Thailand? HK SAR?
    A silly arse is an understatement for you. Let me suggest a deluded ignoramus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I take it you've never lived under a facist regime, you silly arse.
    I take it you still work for one

    Good point from Sabang

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    Good point from Sabang
    Which of course is why it flew straight over their heads. Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Erm, excuse me? Post-coup Thailand? HK SAR?
    Look up the word racist.

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    Everything Trump touches turns to crap.



    The post-Trump GOP, gutted


    Republicans will emerge from the Trump era gutted financially, institutionally and structurally.


    The big picture: The losses are stark and substantial.


    They lost their congressional power.


    Their two leaders, Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy, are hamstrung by corporate blacklisting of their election-denying members.


    The GOP brand is radioactive for a huge chunk of America.


    The corporate bans on giving to the 147 House and Senate Republicans who voted against election certification are growing and virtually certain to hold.

    The RNC is a shell of its former self and run by a Trump loyalist.

    Democrats crushed them in fundraising when they were out of power. Imagine their edge with it.

    Sheldon Adelson, the party's biggest donor, died Monday.

    The NRA is weaker than it has ever been, after massive leadership scandals.

    The U.S. Chamber of Commerce, once controlled by rock-ribbed Republicans, also gave to Democrats in 2020.

    Rank-and-file Republicans are now scattered on encrypted channels like Signal and fearful of Big Tech platforms.

    What to watch: Conservatives hold power in the courts and state legislatures, two foundational pieces to rebuilding their party. But they likely will face a raging internal war over policies and political leaders as they grapple with a post-Trump world — whenever that might be.

    Post-Trump Republican Party has been gutted in almost every way imaginable - Axios

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    Possibly that might be the trigger for Pence to invoke the 25th

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Republicans will emerge from the Trump era gutted financially, institutionally and structurally.
    Unlike their brothers-in-arms, they are getting poorer and poorer. Their lady leader is only 7th richest in the Congress, not all inherited from her hard-working father (please do not search for his background), not to mention the others.

    And president-elect not included in the listing...

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