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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Can you imagine Trump at a gathering of ex presidents ?
    He won't go.

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    On the positive side, he has given us a lot to talk about.
    While talking about trump we have been unusually nice to each other, except of course to 2 or 3 trampazees who had it coming anyway.

    What are we going to do after January 20?
    We also need to start making plans for the transition, otherwise we will have to go cold turkey.
    I am going to start by talking to my wife for an hour every day. Perhaps even listen to what she says.
    What are you guys going to do?
    The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    He won't go.
    I don't think he'll get an invite.

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    donald trump could take over the vacancy that was left by victor spinetti,as THE MAD JAFFA CAKE EATER.so get on your bike trump.

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    The only question is, how far these insane trumpista's are willing to go in a futile attempt to overturn the Peoples mandate, as expressed by the Democratic vote. But it won't work- the USA, in spite of it's faults, answers to the Rule of Law- like any democracy.

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    The trump crime syndicate is far from over. In their latest move, the state department is preventing Biden from accessing messages from foreign leaders. Biden is also being blocked from getting the same intelligence briefings as the President, known as the President's Daily Brief.

    State Department is preventing Biden from accessing messages from foreign leaders - CNNPolitics

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    On the positive side, he has given us a lot to talk about.
    While talking about trump we have been unusually nice to each other, except of course to 2 or 3 trampazees who had it coming anyway.

    What are we going to do after January 20?
    We also need to start making plans for the transition, otherwise we will have to go cold turkey.
    I am going to start by talking to my wife for an hour every day. Perhaps even listen to what she says.
    What are you guys going to do?
    More to the point what are the talk show hosts going to talk about ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    and I have always wondered why Gore did not challenge the end result with more vigour.
    Brooks Brothers riot - Wikipedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    I believe my political leanings are quite clear, especially in respect to the US elections . . . but I do agree that Biden/Harris should not be treated as the next Pres/VP until the obligatory recounting of votes in those states where it was very, very close and a mandatory recount is going to be done, requested or not I believe.

    No doubt in my mind that Trump lost and will hopefully spend the rest of his life in jail or in fear of going to jail, but dot and cross 'i's and 't's first and don't allow any legal doubt at the outcome
    The maximum recounts swing by is maybe 500 votes. Recounting ain't going to change anything. Plus he would have to overturn the count in three states where the differences are in tens of thousands. Ain't going to happen.

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    There are reports that he will refuse to accept any judgement of the courts and plans to continue.
    There's not much anyone can do untill Biden is sworn in, then it's gloves off. But imagine he puts out the call and the whitehouse is surrounded by mobs of gun toting trumpanzees for the weeks leading up to that and on that day. Then mobs of 'antifa' arrive to confront them.
    Fun times ahead.
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    Fantastic opportunity to get rid of the extreme left and the extreme right.

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    JAPPER LOOSER= Next world war.

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    Who is going to pay your next SS check bro if or when that happens.

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    We never did see eye to eye anyways. I don't wear spandex .

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    I'm with plan b.

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    Hey Cujo it wasn't trump supporters that took to mob violence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishlocker View Post
    Hey Cujo it wasn't trump supporters that took to mob violence.
    Who tried to run Bidens campaign bus off the road in Texas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishlocker View Post
    I'm with plan b.
    TD's own die-hard commie, you couldn't be in better company

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishlocker View Post
    JAPPER LOOSER= Next world war.
    Hitting the Moonshine again ya drunk retard?

    Quote Originally Posted by fishlocker View Post
    Who is going to pay your next SS check bro if or when that happens.
    SS is upside, I do not need it. so if it went away....well.

    Quote Originally Posted by fishlocker View Post
    We never did see eye to eye anyways. I don't wear spandex .
    Been out shooting cardboard from 25 yards away from your deck saying the grouping looks good ya redneck? I bet you do wear spandex...

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    Trump insists he will be proven the winner, but aides say he has no serious plan to overturn election


    President Donald Trump declared Wednesday on Twitter, "WE WILL WIN!"


    But, in fact, the president has no clear endgame to actually win the election - and, in an indication he may be starting to come to terms with his loss, he is talking privately about running again in 2024.




    Trump aides, advisers and allies said there is no grand strategy to reverse the election results, which show President-elect Joe Biden with a majority of electoral college votes, as well as a 5 million-vote lead in the national popular vote.


    Asked about Trump's ultimate plan, one senior administration official chuckled and said, "You're giving everybody way too much credit right now."










    Republican officials have scrambled nationwide to produce evidence of widespread voter fraud that could bolster the Trump campaign's legal challenges, but no such evidence has surfaced. And Biden's lead in several states targeted by the Trump campaign has expanded as late-counted votes are reported. In all-important Pennsylvania, the Democrat now leads by more than 50,000 votes.


    Still, the absence of evidence and of a comprehensive and realistic plan to overcome Trump's significant deficit and secure him a second term have not stopped some of the leading figures in the administration and the Republican Party from amplifying the president's misinformation about the election outcome.








    Secretary of State Mike Pompeo's recent pledge for "a smooth transition to a second Trump administration" and Vice President Mike Pence's assertion that the election was not over have helped sow public doubt about the integrity of the vote and raised concerns from allies abroad about the state of America's democracy.


    Save for a visit Wednesday to Arlington National Cemetery in observance of Veterans Day, Trump has not appeared in public since last Thursday, when he delivered a statement challenging preliminary election results. He has instead addressed the election in social media posts or through his spokespeople, promising to keep fighting until he is declared the winner.


    Trump has been spending his days largely on the phone, calling advisers, allies and friends. The president has been "trying to find people who will give him good news," one adviser said.


    Still, Trump has indicated in some of these conversations that he understands Biden will take over the presidency on Jan. 20, Inauguration Day. Rather than talking about a second term, Trump has been matter-of-factly discussing a possible 2024 campaign - an indication that he knows his time as president is coming to an end, at least for now.




    "I'm just going to run in 2024. I'm just going to run again," Trump has been saying, according to a senior administration official who has spoken with him this week.


    That official, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to candidly recount sensitive internal conversations.


    Doug Deason, a top Trump donor who attended the election night party at the White House, said the president deserves "two or three weeks" to investigate his assertions, despite no evidence of widespread fraud so far. Deason said "some people are writing big checks" to fund legal challenges because they are so fired up, but he has not.


    "More than likely, they will find some fraud, but there won't be enough to justify disqualifying enough votes for Trump to win enough states to win the presidency, but it could," Deason said. "It probably won't. But it will give Trump supporters the comfort that Biden won it fair and square."


    Even the possibility of a future Trump run would help keep him relevant - and in the media spotlight - and effectively freeze the GOP primary field. Many of the party's rising stars and buzzed-about 2024 hopefuls - including Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas, former South Carolina governor Nikki Haley and Pence - are unlikely to run if Trump is planning another campaign, Trump allies said.


    Despite losing out on a second term, Trump maintains a viselike grip on a large portion of the Republican Party - especially the populist base that helped lift him to power in 2016 and turned out for him again this year. GOP officials and Trump advisers say most elected Republicans are fearful of provoking Trump's ire.


    "In matters of statecraft and leadership, conceding when you lose is a hallmark of George Washington's republic; what Trump is doing is more akin to something you would see in a banana republic," said Dan Eberhart, a Republican donor. "Trump is trying to establish the premise that he was robbed by voter fraud and use that as his power base within the Republican Party going forward."


    Congressional Republicans are also largely placating Trump and his false claims of victory because of political considerations, a senior Republican congressional aide said. With both Georgia Senate seats coming down to a Jan. 5 runoff, top Republicans like Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., are loath to do anything that could anger Trump.


    Other GOP lawmakers, especially those up for reelection in two years, don't want to risk offending the president to the point that he urges his base to oust them in a primary, that aide added.


    "If the party doesn't fight on the recount, the grass roots is going to leave the party," said one senior Republican involved in the discussions. "That's the choice they have. That's why they are doing it. It's less about the president than it is his voters."


    Pence told Senate Republicans at a lunch Tuesday he found it odd that a pro-GOP electoral trend - from state legislatures to congressional races - would stop at the top of the ticket, according to two people familiar with his remarks. Republicans came away with the impression that Pence was making the case for why the campaign was continuing to legally dispute the results, although the vice president did not explicitly make that link when speaking with senators, according to another official present for the comments.


    Meanwhile, Trump and members of his family are determined to keep fighting, especially his two oldest sons, Don Jr. and Eric. Trump is said to be consulting both, as well as son-in-law and senior White House adviser Jared Kushner, throughout the process.


    The Trumps have been asking other advisers about conducting a sophisticated analysis of voting trends in states to reveal potential aberrations, according to officials.


    A senior Trump campaign official said their strategy is focused on recounts, as well as a messaging push that will underscore their legal efforts. For instance, campaign aides have begun highlighting stories of alleged voting by dead people.


    "This will be a methodical process and every step we take brings us closer to our goal of re-electing the president," Trump campaign spokesman Tim Murtaugh said in a statement. "More than 70.5 million Americans voted for President Trump and they deserve to know that the election was fair and secure, and so does everyone who voted for Joe Biden. The goal is to make sure legal votes are counted and illegal votes are discarded, not only for this election, but for every election in the future."


    Trump has also raised the idea of pressuring state legislators to pick electors favorable to him, in the hope that could offer a viable path to an electoral college victory, though most of his advisers are warning against such a tactic.


    The scenario is highly unlikely, legal experts say, and Republican lawmakers in Pennsylvania have already indicated that they are not interested in that approach.


    The campaign remains especially focused on Pennsylvania, two officials said, because there is no "real path" without the state, in the words of one adviser.


    The president's mood and thinking, meanwhile, have ping-ponged since Election Day, with Trump offering drastically different perspectives depending on the day, said one Republican involved in the campaign.


    Some senior administration officials - including Pence, Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and Office of Management and Budget Director Russell Vought - are also trying to encourage their staffs by insisting the president still could win, aides said.


    Every federal agency has prepared a transition document for the Biden team but so far has been told not to provide it. And Trump continues to complain that Fox News and some world leaders are, in his view, being overly deferential to Biden.


    A Republican National Committee official said the organization had retained law firms in various states. Meanwhile, the RNC laid off hundreds of employees Monday, per several officials, part of a natural downsizing for party committees following elections.Ronna McDaniel, its chairwoman, has told others she is taking her cues from the White House and the campaign but understands the fight cannot go on much longer unless evidence of wider fraud is found.


    Inside the president's orbit, many aides find themselves grappling with a dual reality - pretending, and some perhaps believing, that Trump has a shot at holding the White House while they also look for their next opportunity, said one senior administration official who spent part of Tuesday and Wednesday searching for a job. Two administration officials added that many in the West Wing are updating their résumés, talking to headhunters and looking for work. But they are also living in fear, with senior Trump adviser Johnny McEntee promising to terminate anyone who gets caught seeking employment, officials said.


    The White House now is far more vacant than it has been in weeks, with many aides concerned about catching coronavirus - or self-quarantining after having been exposed to it.


    Trump is now working without a number of his top advisers. Chief of staff Mark Meadows is out with the coronavirus, as is David Bossie, an outside adviser helming the campaign's legal effort. Brian Jack, the White House political director, also has the virus, along with a number of other staffers in political affairs and assistants to several top administration officials, according to a White House official.


    The Trump campaign has tried to assuage the concerns of donors and surrogates with regular calls to keep them focused on supporting the president, people familiar with the calls said. The campaign's argument is that some states are still winnable - particularly Arizona and Georgia - according to a person on the call. But, this person added, "it's not that convincing."

    Trump insists he will be proven the winner, but aides say he has no serious plan to overturn election

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    Republicans muzzle anger over Trump's Pentagon culling, afraid antagonizing him imperils Georgia runoff

    WASHINGTON - There is widespread alarm among congressional Republicans at how President Donald Trump this week abruptly replaced Pentagon leaders with political allies, and sent signals he might do the same in the intelligence community, but for now lawmakers are refraining from overtly criticizing the moves for fear doing so could harm the party's chances of holding onto its two Senate seats in Georgia.


    Republicans' response to the ouster of Mark Esper as defense secretary has been noticeably circumspect, especially when compared to the explosion of criticism hurled at Trump when he fired Esper's predecessor, Jim Mattis, two years ago. To date, Republican lawmakers have offered praise for Esper's tenure and little else.


    Congressional aides say the anodyne public expressions represent a concerted attempt to self-muzzle, as the political party that prides itself on being strong on national security grapples with its fear of antagonizing an erratic and impulsive lame-duck president while battling to keep control of the Senate.

    MORE Republicans muzzle anger over Trump's Pentagon culling, afraid antagonizing him imperils Georgia runoff

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    afraid antagonizing him imperils Georgia runoff
    so much scum chosen by americans


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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    I have always suspected the Bush v Gore final election result was rigged and I have always wondered why Gore did not challenge the end result with more vigour.

    This carry on by Trump only confirms his total lack of respect for everything apart from his own ego.
    Because the Supreme Court ended it. There is no higher legal authority unless you are a jesus wheezer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    I believe my political leanings are quite clear, especially in respect to the US elections . . . but I do agree that Biden/Harris should not be treated as the next Pres/VP until the obligatory recounting of votes in those states where it was very, very close and a mandatory recount is going to be done, requested or not I believe.
    That is not how it works. He is President Elect and the onus is not until proven but until proven otherwise.

    It has been the norm for decades that the incoming President is granted early access to information to ensure a smooth transition.

    This stupid baldy orange loser is making the country look like a c u n t again.

    Fortunately most of the world's leaders know that baldy orange loser is an arsehole, so they won't hold it against Biden.

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