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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Well there is a reason I said your editing is a bit suspect.

    You might think the quote you provided made the same points as I, but:

    - You never said who "Mr. Berman" is.
    - You never mentioned baldy orange cunto's turkish interests and thus why it would benefit him
    - You never mentioned the previous charges being blocked.

    I have no suspicions other than sloppiness on your part. It is impossible to get the meat of the story from your quotes, one has to open the link to ascertain even the basic facts, which I summarised in post #28490.

    Try harder, or I will throw a blackboard eraser at you and tell you to stop playing games on your phone.
    that's what the link is for. they should read the article ,like I did and like you did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Trump is a global laughing stock, that much we know.

    How much of that tarnishes America remains to be seen.
    America is tarnished for ever, what do you think, in five or ten years people in other countries will think the 42% that approve of trump would miraculously become smarter? We made what the rest of the world always suspected plain a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    that's what the link is for. they should read the article ,like I did and like you did.
    <sigh>

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    I'm starting to like one side of trump. It's hilarious to see him spit in the faces of his supporters and they clap for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elche View Post
    I'm starting to like one side of trump. It's hilarious to see him spit in the faces of his supporters and they clap for it.
    It's amazing really, the stuff he's getting away with saying at some of these rallies.
    Last edited by Cujo; 31-10-2020 at 05:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    It's amazing really, the stuff he's getting away with saying at some of these rallies.
    It's like watching his idiot son on Fox. "Hardly anyone is dying" will be of great comfort to the 1,003 bereaved families on the day he said it.

    The whole family should be locked up. Except the one that wrote that book confirming what an absolute jizzstain on humanity the baldy orange cunto actually is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Have you picked your new nick for November 5th yet?

    Something like "INEVERLIKEDTRUMPOHNO"?
    I is Australian, i have no clue about and i am seriously not interested in Americant politics, and i don't really care who wins but from what i am seeing on the news and internet, the orange pussy grabber is gunna romp it in.
    if he don't, i could not give a rats rectum.
    but when he does win i will really be interested to watch the fallout.

    personally i would have voted for the Pedro !

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    Quote Originally Posted by moose65 View Post
    from what i am seeing on the news and internet, the orange pussy grabber is gunna romp it in.
    You're not very bright, are you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moose65 View Post
    from what i am seeing on the news and internet, the orange pussy grabber is gunna romp it in
    Where are you seeing this? FaceBook?

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    NY AG serves notice to Trump on MSNBC she’s coming after him and his family after the election

    Appearing on MSNBC on Saturday morning with host Ali Velshi, New York Attorney General Letitia James said her office is proceeding with investigations into Donald Trump and his family whether he wins re-election or not.

    According to James, her first concern is making sure there is no election interference in New York on Tuesday, before assuring the MSNBC host that the Justice Department can’t interfere with her when it comes to the Trump Organization and financial improprieties.

    “In New York, as you know, we have an investigation against the Trump Organization related to financial impropriety and that investigation is ongoing,” she began. “We will continue that investigation and at this point in time there’s nothing more that I can say other than the fact this they have used every legal attempt to block and deny us information and to witnesses. We filed requests to compel and we were successful. We had the opportunity to question Eric Trump and we are continuing to review all of the documents they have submitted and other witnesses as well — we look forward to questioning them also.”

    “To be clear, without telling me any details about the investigation, you are not subject to any other types of rules?” the MSNBC host pressed. “There is no immunity that someone can present the president with that limits your ability to pursue these investigations and put whatever charges forward you see fit. As the attorney general of New York, you’re not governed by the Department of Justice or any federal rules?”

    “In response to our motion to compel, they raised a number of defenses, including certain immunities but they were all denied by the federal court judge and our motion to compel was successful and, again, we have the opportunity to interview and ask questions to Eric Trump and we were able to secure certain documents that we are reviewing,” she replied. “The reality is is that, as the attorney general, I am guided by the law and the facts and political affiliation and political views are left at the door.”: NY AG serves notice to Trump on MSNBC she’s coming after him and his family after the election – Raw Story

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    ‘May have to leave the country if I lose,’ says Donald Trump: https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1317554725596942336
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    I so want to see that fucking crook doing the perp walk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I so want to see that fucking crook doing the perp walk.
    So would I Harry, but guess what it will never happen. Even after he is president this man can do a lot of damage, and he is a sociopath, he will do it to save his skin. If he loses the election he will leverage his ability to cause mayhem and his relationship with the idiots who support him for a deal.
    As disappointing and unfair as it is, he will never spend a day in jail, the only people that go to jail in this country are the poor and those without power.
    The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Worth mentioning that none of them had any political power and none of them had a following of senile imbeciles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    So would I Harry, but guess what it will never happen. Even after he is president this man can do a lot of damage, and he is a sociopath, he will do it to save his skin. If he loses the election he will leverage his ability to cause mayhem and his relationship with the idiots who support him for a deal.
    As disappointing and unfair as it is, he will never spend a day in jail, the only people that go to jail in this country are the poor and those without power.
    One hopes Biden doesn't fall for the pardon nonsense that got that crook Nixon off the hook.

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    Watching the full program now.

    A few years old, but worth a watch if you've not seen it before.

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    November and December will be interesting, it's hard to see Trump and his tards playing nicely if or when they lose.

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    ^Watched on the news them boarding up shops already anticipating the shit hitting the fan no matter who wins, we're talking everything up to and in between corners stores in the middle of nowhere to high end boutiques on Rodeo Drive. The fucking joint is on par with Baghdad and Dhaka these days if its come to this.

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    Super-spreading Trump rallies led to more than 700 COVID-19 deaths, study estimates

    President Trump has described his campaign rallies as “fun,” “wonderful,” “the Greatest Show on Earth,” and, of course, “BIG.”

    An effort to calculate whether those events have increased the spread of the coronavirus in the United States suggests that “contagious” and “deadly” would also apply.

    A rigorous attempt to gauge the after-effects of 18 of the president’s reelection rallies, all held in the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic, suggests they have led to more than 30,000 additional cases and at least 700 additional deaths.

    Those casualties would not have occurred if the campaign events had not taken place, according to a team of Stanford researchers. Media coverage of the rallies made clear there was little effort to follow guidelines about social distancing, and mask use was optional for attendees, who typically numbered in the thousands. (Indeed, face coverings were disparaged by the president on several occasions.)

    Furthermore, the extra illnesses and deaths almost certainly reached beyond the ardent Trump supporters who attended the rallies, rippling outward to ensnare others in their towns and cities, the study authors said.

    “The communities in which Trump rallies took place paid a high price in terms of disease and death,” the Stanford team concluded.

    The study, led by economist B. Douglas Bernheim, was posted Friday on a website where social science researchers share preliminary work and seek feedback from other scholars.

    On Saturday, the findings became fresh campaign fodder as the president stumped at four outdoor rallies in Pennsylvania and his Democratic challenger, Joe Biden, held two drive-in events in Michigan with former President Obama.

    Biden spokesman Andrew Gates said the study supports Democrats’ long-standing charge that Trump’s gatherings have been “super-spreader rallies that only serve his own ego.”

    The Trump campaign contends that attendees are exercising their 1st Amendment rights. They are required to submit to temperature checks and are given masks and hand sanitizer upon entering, according to campaign spokeswoman Courtney Parella.

    “We take strong precautions for our campaign events,” Parella told Politico.

    In a bid to determine whether the Trump assemblies really have served as super-spreading events, Bernheim and his colleagues focused on 18 rallies held between June 20 and Sept. 22. Three of those events were held indoors, further increasing the risk of coronavirus transmission.

    In an interview, Bernheim made clear that patterns of coronavirus infection vary widely from county to county. But after using an array of statistical methods to make apples-to-apples comparisons, he said the pattern was impossible to ignore: The mass gatherings likely set off chains of transmission that were long and random.

    The researchers traced the effects of those chains for up to 10 weeks following each event. During that time, an infected rallygoer might pass the virus to her grocer, who may pass it to his teenage son, who transmits it to his girlfriend, who could infect her piano teacher.

    Roughly 1 out of every 150 such cases results in a death, current COVID-19 statistics suggest.

    For their study, the Stanford economists used a technique called “predictive modeling.” Essentially, they sought to distinguish the effects of the presidential rallies from the normal progression of the coronavirus outbreak by examining the trajectories of coronavirus cases and deaths in counties that hosted Trump events and comparing them with myriad similar counties that were not visited by the president.

    The researchers put those non-Trump-hosting counties to work to refine their estimates of rally effects. First, for each of the 18 counties that had hosted a Trump rally, they looked for 100 other counties that had had similar trajectories of COVID-19 cases in the weeks leading up to the rally date. A second scrub of the data compared each rally-holding county to 200 comparable counties.

    After the date of the rally, the growth in coronavirus infections in counties that had welcomed Trump diverged notably from the growth in counties that didn’t, the researchers found. The gaps varied widely from rally to rally. But no reading of the statistical findings support the conclusion that hosting a rally had no effect in driving up coronavirus cases.

    Two rallies in Wisconsin — one in Oshkosh on Aug. 17 and another in Mosinee on Sept. 17 — stood out in particular relief. Before each rally, the positivity rate of coronavirus tests in each county was essentially flat. But immediately after the rallies, the “positivity rates rose sharply and quickly” and continued rising for at least several weeks, the researchers reported.

    But lots of factors might have explained such differences. Maybe the counties that experienced an increase in cases — that is, the ones that hosted rallies — simply had more people living in closer proximity to one another, helping the virus to spread. Residents might have had higher rates of underlying medical conditions that made them more susceptible to the virus if exposed. Perhaps public health strictures, such as mask mandates or temporary closures of bars and restaurants, were more lax.

    The researchers applied statistical techniques to account for possibilities like these. They even made sure that comparison counties in this second exercise matched the Trump-hosting counties in their propensity to vote for Trump in 2016.

    This step tempered the hike in cases in the counties that hosted Trump rallies. But they were still unmistakable. Over a period of up to 10 weeks following a rally, the counties that were visited by the president saw an average of 261 more infections per 100,000 residents than did comparable counties Trump didn’t visit.

    Finally, the researchers sought to rule out a factor often cited by Trump for driving COVID-19 numbers to worrisome heights. Was it possible that Trump-hosting counties were simply testing more aggressively, thereby picking up more cases?

    To find out, the researchers returned to the two Wisconsin rallies that appear to have touched off the most dramatic rise in coronavirus transmission. In both cases, the hike in the positivity rate was strongly evident well before testing was stepped up.

    In Marathon County, home to Mosinee, the positivity rate started climbing immediately after the Sept. 17 rally and continued to climb sharply for several weeks. Only then did testing rates rise.
    In Winnebago County, home to Oshkosh, positivity rates roughly doubled over the first four weeks following the Aug. 17 rally, then continued to climb sharply. Not until several weeks after that spike did testing increase there.

    In addition to a contentious presidential campaign, the pandemic has coincided with a wave of Black Lives Matter protests that also had the potential to fuel viral spread. But Bernheim defended his decision to examine the impact of Trump rallies.

    Protests in response to police killings of Black Americans have been spontaneous, geographically dispersed and hard to reconstruct, he said. By contrast, “the president’s rallies were geographically isolated and temporally isolated. There was a very good record of where they occurred.”

    For a researcher keen to examine rigorously the effects of mass gatherings in the midst of pandemic, the rallies offered a “very clean” set of natural experiments to assess, he said.
    Bernheim also denied partisan motives in the timing of his study, which he said was “dictated by data availability.”

    “I’m a scientist,” said Bernheim. “I reason from data to conclusions. In the political sphere, I realize that people reason from conclusions to data. I can’t control that.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    “I’m a scientist,” said Bernheim. “I reason from data to conclusions. In the political sphere, I realize that people reason from conclusions to data. I can’t control that.”
    I found this closing comment to be very succinct.

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    He's a laugh isn't he...

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