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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
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    storm in a tea cup
    Really? This guy doesn't realise what a state leader's visit entails. It's almost as though he was going to suggest she stay at Trump Towers and he'll give her a discount.
    He thinks he can just pass on his regards to the Queen via the PM?

    It's no storm in a teacup, but quite a serious matter that he has absolutely no idea how international diplomacy works.
    Well l think that's the reason people voted for him, he is not a politician

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    ^ No, it's ok to whine at a bad outcome. The rednecks and gullible ignoratti voted. Doesn't mean it was a good outcome...on the contrary, when the ignorant masses do speak, it usually means a bad outcome.
    Really surprising they did that, seeing as you well edumacated and intelligent people had been doing such a great job running the country for the great unwashed
    Go Trump grab them on the pussy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
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    storm in a tea cup
    Really? This guy doesn't realise what a state leader's visit entails. It's almost as though he was going to suggest she stay at Trump Towers and he'll give her a discount.
    He thinks he can just pass on his regards to the Queen via the PM?

    It's no storm in a teacup, but quite a serious matter that he has absolutely no idea how international diplomacy works.
    Yes, it's quite unbelievable that even as a layperson he should be aware that visits by heads of state are no casual affair.
    Was it on purpose do you think. Had a good larf with his staff about it?
    "And then I told her, I told her, if you're coming over let me know and I'll get you a discount at Trump towers" " And when she gets here I'll GRAB 'ER BY THE PUSSY"
    I bet he's having a ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rigger View Post
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    storm in a tea cup
    Really? This guy doesn't realise what a state leader's visit entails. It's almost as though he was going to suggest she stay at Trump Towers and he'll give her a discount.
    He thinks he can just pass on his regards to the Queen via the PM?

    It's no storm in a teacup, but quite a serious matter that he has absolutely no idea how international diplomacy works.
    Well l think that's the reason people voted for him, he is not a politician
    So elect him president of the Golf club, not the most powerful nation on the planet.
    Like it or not the environment he'll be operating in is a political one and the people in that environment are political people. They know the system they know the rules.

    He's used to being the big boss bellowing orders at subordinates who doff their caps and do what he says. It's not going to be like that in Washington. He's going to have to learn to work with people and compromise.
    They will eat that dumb fucker alive, trust me. He'll be trying to get out of it within a year or two I reckon.

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    So has anyone heard if trump's transition team has contacted the defense or justice departments yet?

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    I really do think it's all going to be too much for him.
    Too much work, too much politicking, too much everything really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo
    I really do think it's all going to be too much for him.
    Too much work, too much politicking, too much everything really.
    Naw, it's all second nature to Trump...making deals, deciding who to fuck over and getting briefed by lawyers to take advantage of the law is how he's been living his live for years.

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    He's obviously banking on a windfall....

    President-elect Donald Trump, who has repeatedly bragged he never settles lawsuits despite a long history of doing so, is nearing a deal to end the fraud cases pending against his defunct real estate seminar program, Trump University, according to a person familiar with the negotiations.

    If finalized, the settlement would eliminate the possibility that Trump would be called to testify in court in the midst of his presidential transition. A deal would end three suits against him, including a California class action case that was scheduled to go to trial later this month, as well as a second suit in that state and one brought by New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman.

    Settlement terms under negotiation could result in a payment from Trump in the range of $20 million to former customers of the business who have claimed they were defrauded, the person said. Trump would likely admit no wrongdoing, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rigger
    Well l think that's the reason people voted for him, he is not a politician
    That's an idiotic argument.

    When you go for major surgery do you want an experienced doctor doing it or would you choose a plumber who watched a few episodes of General Hospital?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo
    It's not going to be like that in Washington. He's going to have to learn to work with people and compromise.
    He's got the House, Senate and soon the SCOTUS and they will rubber-stamp any shite he spews so he has a free hand at least until the mid-terms and probably after that once his new AG Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III is done disenfranchising everybody he can who might vote D.
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    This time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slackula
    a plumber who watched a few episodes of General Hospital?
    I smell a cunning plan

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44
    I smell a cunning plan
    So cunning, you could pin a tail on it and call it a weasel?
    Are you calling Baldrick to the discussion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slackula
    his new AG Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III is done disenfranchising everybody he can who might vote D.
    Donald Trump?s atrocious attorney general pick: Jeff Sessions will roll back voting rights and civil rights - Salon.com

    An extremely poor choice for Attorney General. I doubt he will be confirmed given his past history of racism. He was rejected for a federal court position in the past because of his racist comments.
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    The face of the new U.S.

    Trump cabinet appointments will 'undo decades of progress', rights activists say
    Hawkish trio – Jeff Sessions as attorney general, Mike Pompeo as CIA chief and Michael Flynn as national security adviser – have made inflammatory statements about race relations, immigration, Islam and the use of torture
    Jeff Sessions, nominated for attorney general, Michael Flynn, Trump’s national security adviser, and Mike Pompeo, nominated to lead the CIA. Composite: Reuters
    David Smith in Washington and Spencer Ackerman and Jessica Glenza in New York

    Rights activists have condemned Donald Trump for three cabinet appointments they say could “undo decades of progress” towards racial equality and effectively legitimise the use of torture.

    The US president-elect on Friday picked Senator Jeff Sessions as attorney general, Representative Mike Pompeo as director of the CIA and retired lieutenant-general Michael Flynn as national security adviser.

    The hawkish trio have made inflammatory statements about race relations, immigration, Islam and the use of torture, and signal a provocative shift of the national security apparatus to the right. For liberals they appeared to confirm some of their darkest fears about the incoming Trump administration.


    Sessions, a 69-year-old senator from Alabama, a state with a tormented history of segregation that spurred Rosa Parks’ bus protest, has been accused of racist comments in the past. He will succeed two African Americans – Eric Holder and Loretta Lynch – who served under Barack Obama.

    Sessions, who has emphasised “law and order”, seen by some liberals as a coded phrase for discriminatory policing of minorities, would have huge power as head of the Department of Justice, grappling with issues such as police shootings of African Americans, as well as whether Trump’s defeated election opponent Hillary Clinton should face criminal prosecution over her mishandling of classified information.

    Civil rights campaigners were quick to criticise his selection. Sherrilyn Ifill, president and director-counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense Fund, said: “Jeff Sessions has a decades-long record – from his early days as a prosecutor to his present role as a senator – of opposing civil rights and equality.

    “It is unimaginable that he could be entrusted to serve as the chief law enforcement officer for this nation’s civil rights laws.”


    Sessions, who has served in the Senate since 1997 and was the first member to back Trump’s anti-establishment campaign, will face a confirmation hearing before his peers on the Senate judiciary committee, probably in January. One liberal pressure group, People For the American Way, called for a demonstration at the US Capitol on Friday to demand that senators reject his nomination given his “lengthy history of bigoted rhetoric and policies”.

    Democratic senator Dianne Feinstein of California promised “a fair and complete review of the nominee” while acknowledging she differs from him on many issues.

    Sessions’ last confirmation hearing, for a federal judgeship under Ronald Reagan in 1986, was derailed when former colleagues testified that he used the N-word, called a black assistant US attorney “boy” and joked that the Ku Klux Klan was “OK until I found out they smoked pot”. He was also alleged to have called the NAACP and American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) “un-American, Communist-inspired organisations”. He denied the claims but was rejected for the position.


    Both organisations condemned Trump’s decision. Cornell William Brooks, president of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), said: “The nomination of Senator Jeff Sessions to be attorney general, to serve as chief law enforcement officer of the United States, is deeply troubling. Senator Sessions’ record is one that suggests that he has stood in an old, ugly history in which civil rights were not regarded as core American values.”


    Anthony Romero, executive director of the ACLU, said: “Senator Sessions has called the ACLU un-American and communist, assertions we flatly reject. His positions on LGBT rights, capital punishment, abortion rights and presidential authority in times of war have been contested by the ACLU and other civil rights organisations.”

    Sessions’ ascent to the role of America’s top law enforcement officer fuelled concerns that white nationalists, including the Ku Klux Klan, will feel emboldened and licenced to spread their views with impunity.

    Charles Chamberlain, executive director of Democracy for America, said: “The handful of people who might be even less equipped than Jeff Sessions to dispense justice on behalf of the American people typically spend their weekends wearing pointy hats and burning crosses.

    “Jeff Sessions was too racist to become a federal judge. In the 1980s. The idea that Jeff Sessions might become attorney general is a genuine threat to our country and the lives and safety of people of colour, Muslim Americans, women and working families.”

    And Lisa Graves, executive director of the Center for Media and Democracy, a national watchdog, said: “When Trump rhetorically asked African Americans what they had to lose in this election, this was a big one: a justice department that believes justice for all is its highest mission. With Sessions, ‘justice for some’ would likely be a more accurate motto.”

    Republicans, however, rallied around the president-elect and his choices. Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, an outspoken critic of Trump during the election campaign, said: “Senator Sessions is a fine, decent man and principled conservative.”

    Senate judiciary committee chairman Chuck Grassley said: “He knows the justice department as a former US attorney, which would serve him very well in this position.”


    Sessions was one of only nine senators who, in 2005, voted against a measure sponsored by Senator John McCain to prevent torture by the military under George W Bush. A year earlier, graphic photographs of army reservists mistreating prisoners at the notorious Abu Ghraib prison outside Baghdad became public. More recently he has questioned whether terrorism suspects should receive the protection of the US court system and objected to the planned closure of the prison on Guantánamo Bay.

    The former federal prosecutor has also opposed nearly every immigration bill that has come before the Senate over the past two decades that has included a path to citizenship for immigrants in the country illegally. He is an enthusiastic backer of Trump’s promise to build a wall on the border with Mexico. Last year he wrote a 25-page report blaming job losses and welfare dependency on immigration.

    Pompeo, 52, a third-term congressman from Kansas, was a surprise choice to lead the CIA. Elected to Congress as part of the 2010 Tea Party wave, he has enjoyed a quick rise, thanks in part to his penchant for incendiary statements about national security. After the Boston Marathon bombings in 2013, Pompeo falsely claimed that US Muslim organisations and religious leaders had not condemned terrorism. “Silence has made these Islamic leaders across America potentially complicit in these acts,” he said on the House floor.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...s-pompeo-flynn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
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    his new AG Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III is done disenfranchising everybody he can who might vote D.
    Donald Trump?s atrocious attorney general pick: Jeff Sessions will roll back voting rights and civil rights - Salon.com

    An extremely poor choice for Attorney General. I doubt he will be confirmed given his past history of racism. He was rejected for a federal court position in the past because of his racist comments.
    What's this about being 'confirmed'? What does that entail?

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    Actually I wonder who's really behind these appointments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Actually I wonder who's really behind these appointments.
    All cabinet level appointments must be confirmed by a simple majority vote in the senate after hearings. Actually, he will be confirmed easily but he will get a good grilling in hearings. This is a guy who said Islam is a political movement masquerading as a religion. Truly a remarkable choice.

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    “law and order”, seen by some liberals as a coded phrase for discriminatory policing of minorities

    Well of course it must be, I mean WTF else could law and order mean?....

    The idea that Jeff Sessions might become attorney general is a genuine threat to our country and the lives and safety of people of colour, Muslim Americans, women and working families.”...

    So, somehow "women" and "working families" are now minorities subject to persecution? Yessir, roundup all them there women and working families up and load em in the cattle trucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo
    What's this about being 'confirmed'? What does that entail?
    Google is your friend, is it blocked in China or something?

    After his nom gets out of committee it goes to a Senate vote for confirmation.

    Sessions looks like a lock for confirmation - POLITICO

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    Quote Originally Posted by slackula View Post
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    Well l think that's the reason people voted for him, he is not a politician
    That's an idiotic argument.

    When you go for major surgery do you want an experienced doctor doing it or would you choose a plumber who watched a few episodes of General Hospital?
    Well if all the doctors were buggering all the patients during surgery, l would go for the plumber

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    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    “law and order”, seen by some liberals as a coded phrase for discriminatory policing of minorities
    Another example of your 'post truth' style of argument. Set up your opinion has an objective fact then proceed to beat it down.

    Jeff Sessions may have problems in the communities where the federal justice system steps in when local authorities fail to act. Usually in incidences of discrimination prohibited by federal law. Jeff Sessions may have the best intentions but his past history will not help him those communities where he should be viewed as a fair broker. It's really just a poor choice and will not help heal the wounds and divisions created by Trump's campaign rhetoric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    Well of course it must be, I mean WTF else could law and order mean?
    Your ignorance of history and current events in America are mind numbing. The fact is that when Trump declared himself the law and order candidate he also proposed bringing back such controversial programs like stop and frisk which was used by law enforcement to disproportionately target minorities. If you haven't noticed of late a large number of unarmed black males have been shot by police , militarized police showing up to civil protests in armored vehicles and combat equipment.

    He wasn't talking Mayberry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    heal the wounds and divisions created by Trump's campaign rhetoric.
    Trump has no intention of healing division. No surprise his cabinet choices. They are exactly the people to implement his campaign rhetoric. Divisive and controversial.

    Trump is a brand not a great deal maker or leader as he claims. Using his name he hires folks to run his businesses and make deals in his name. He has ceded his responsibily to Pence. Trump thinks he can sit up in his tower on weekends as President and let his staff run the show. Ridiculous to even mention it and indicates he hasn't a clue. There are reasons Presidents live in the White House full time. Security and immediate availabilty in a crisis. It has a perimiter of air defense systems, all manner of security systems, an underground command center, secure meeting rooms, facilities for high level diplomatic receptions meetings and a tunnel system if evacuation is needed. No Donald you will not be staying in your penthouse in your tower. If you are uncomfortable sleeping in a strange bed, move your bed and blankey to the White House.

    Top secret clearences for the family another idiotic request by the way.

    Idiot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    Top secret clearences for the family another idiotic request by the way.
    I had top secret (crypto) and (n) when I worked on Navy ships. Just because you have a clearance, doesn't mean you'll automatically be given anything TS that you want to look at, you gotta have a reason. If I wanted access to a weapons magazine I had to explain why I needed in, in writing. Same thing with the crypto part of the comm center.

    It will also fuck with their lives for years after as they won't be able to discuss what they've had access to, won't be able to travel to certain countries for a decade (as I recall), etc, etc. and if they do, they go to Leavenworth for a stay.

    It's a rather serious piece of paper you sign and it gives the DIA a right to poke and pry into every aspect of your life. It might be fun to find out what the clearance investigation finds out about their secret little lives.

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    I hope the DIA finds a secret "photo shoot" of Ivanka that they know the Russians are going to blackmail her with and she has to release it to the public.

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