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    Well geniuses, if both sides aren't as bad as the other, how did this country end up in this shape? It has definitely been a bi-partisan effort to get us here. Or is someone going to tell me it didn't happen until January 2017.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    Well geniuses, if both sides aren't as bad as the other, how did this country end up in this shape? It has definitely been a bi-partisan effort to get us here. Or is someone going to tell me it didn't happen until January 2017.

    Why don't you list the 5 worst things the US has done in the last 20 years and let's see who was in charge?

    You know, like:

    Iraq Invasion

    Afghanistan Invasion

    Global Financial Crisis

    They're the first three that spring to mind for me.

    The Pandemic is a no brainer.

    The last administration left a playbook, a global pandemic response initiative and a Whitehouse Pandemic response team, and the bald orange turd threw away the lot. You couldn't blame the Democrats for that one if you fucking tried.

    Let's hear it then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    One's insane and the other is slightly less than insane.
    one will have people with some competence in their area of expertise appointed to decision making positions

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    This may very we’ll be the dumbest comment ever made.

    Trump on Testing: “And don’t forget, we have more cases than anybody in the world. But why? Because we do more testing. When you test, you have a case. When you test, you find something is wrong with people. If we didn’t do any testing, we would have very few cases.”


    We are fucked
    Last edited by beachbound; 15-05-2020 at 09:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbound View Post
    . When you test, you have a case. When you test, you find something is wrong with people. If we didn’t do any testing, we would have very few cases.”


    We are fucked

    Technically he is not wrong, but yeah you're fucked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbound View Post
    This may very we’ll be the dumbest comment ever made.

    Trump on Testing: “And don’t forget, we have more cases than anybody in the world. But why? Because we do more testing. When you test, you have a case. When you test, you find something is wrong with people. If we didn’t do any testing, we would have very few cases.”


    We are fucked


    If not the 'dumbest comment ever made' it would certainly attract at least special mention.

    And yes, concur with nid, you are fucked.


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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    You can't lure your own voters to turn up for Biden.
    why are you just making of nonsense?

    in the map below, the blue states were won by biden in the primary contests:

    President Donald Trump-screenshot-2020-05-15-12-57-a

    couldn't "lure voters out to turn up for biden", eh?


    or maybe you think that sanders, warren, bloomberg, buttigieg and klobuchar all dropped out and endorsed biden because....no...never mind....i'm not even going to try and discern what it is you're trying to say.


    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    You'll lose. Sadly
    quoted for posterity


    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Maybe you could win the Congress
    ICYMI, democrats already control the house, and the odds of the dems winning the senate and not the white house are extremely limited....bordering on infinitesimal.
    assuming you have a point.....what is it?


    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    We'll see in november, who's the stupid one
    with posts like this one, you're clearly doing your best to sew it up early.


    and for what it's worth, not sure why you keep using "you"....i'm not on the ballot and don't work for the DNC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbound View Post
    “And don’t forget, we have more cases than anybody in the world. But why? Because we do more testing. When you test, you have a case. When you test, you find something is wrong with people. If we didn’t do any testing, we would have very few cases.”


    We are fucked
    i have a new plan to eliminate cancer.

    stop testing for cancer.

    problem solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbound View Post
    This may very we’ll be the dumbest comment ever made.

    Trump on Testing: “And don’t forget, we have more cases than anybody in the world. But why? Because we do more testing. When you test, you have a case. When you test, you find something is wrong with people. If we didn’t do any testing, we would have very few cases.”


    We are fucked
    again, hurling to the moon like an Anti-Trump lunatic

    Trump is actually right, this is the same statement we have from our European leaders, so again, what was your point? butthurt?

    you guys should stop testing, get exposed like everyone else, because this is the only way out, and Trump is neither the cause or the solution for COVID

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    TD confined idiots went screaming simply because they are butthurt and hate Trump
    Guess it's just a case of American wannabe's - really can't understand their fascination with him - perhaps jealousy... it does seem to really bust their butts that they can't vote for or against him... I'm American and I really don't give two hoots, I understand we are just pawns in the greater scheme of things. It is amazing and kind of mind boggling that they even care about Trump. Just one of lifes many little mysteries...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    really can't understand their fascination with him
    american decisions have far ranging consequences - and having a POTUS like trump causes problems in countries he has never heard of and cannot imagine - even his disastrous handling of the virus response in america will have ramafications in the years to come for the rest of the world

    the orange sh1tgibbon need to have a heart attack and die even if it leaves the d0g botherer in charge for 6 months

    the spasms of america caving in on itself will cause turmoil throughout the world economically and politically , and if he and his sycophants are in charge for 4 more years then we will live in interesting times

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    Guess it's just a case of American wannabe's - really can't understand their fascination with him - perhaps jealousy... it does seem to really bust their butts that they can't vote for or against him... I'm American and I really don't give two hoots, I understand we are just pawns in the greater scheme of things. It is amazing and kind of mind boggling that they even care about Trump. Just one of lifes many little mysteries...
    they are typical ordinary authoritarians, and independent thinker whackjobs like Trump is simply scaring them simply because he could shatter their rigid view of their self-righteous world

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    american decisions have far ranging consequences - and having a POTUS like trump causes problems in countries he has never heard of and cannot imagine - even his disastrous handling of the virus response in america will have ramafications in the years to come for the rest of the world

    the orange sh1tgibbon need to have a heart attack and die even if it leaves the d0g botherer in charge for 6 months

    the spasms of america caving in on itself will cause turmoil throughout the world economically and politically , and if he and his sycophants are in charge for 4 more years then we will live in interesting times
    Trump didn't cause COVID-19, and this what's wrong with the average idiot, they keep being distracted with stupid shit, and blame Paul for Jack mistakes

    China is responsible, not Trump, nothing he could have done would have change a thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    ...the spasms of america caving in on itself will cause turmoil throughout the world economically and politically , and if he and his sycophants are in charge for 4 more years then we will live in interesting times
    I think we are living in interesting times, interesting enough that permanent and radical changes are sweeping the board, political, economic, societal and military.

    But could become more interesting.

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    Way off the Covid Thread Topic - but...

    Well, Trump/POTUS is only one leg of the three legged stool. As such, the POTUS, any POTUS is a powerless eunuch. Their real power actually comes from their ability to convince congress and the senate to back their program. As such, Trump went in pretty much powerless, having upset the Bush dynasty he really had zero republican backers. And, of course, zero democratic backers.

    Now Trump, obviously managed to talk his way into the White House - he found the right buttons to push and pushed them in the correct order - He Won.

    Now, if POTUS Trump had acted as a politically correct talking head he could have made great strides - however, Trump is Trump and ain't gonna change - his actions in the White House, his denigration of anything against his agenda cost him heavily. Instead of building a loyal following in the house and senate he managed to alienate a greater portion of the other two legs of the stool. This seriously limited his impact.

    That being said... the position of POTUS is up for grabs, this year, it is quite questionable and perplexing that the Democrats are putting Joe Biden up as their Best Chance Candidate for securing the White House...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    I think we are living in interesting times, interesting enough that permanent and radical changes are sweeping the board, political, economic, societal and military.

    But could become more interesting.

    Sure.
    Some could easily envision a subtle paradigm shift in one form or another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    Well, Trump/POTUS is only one leg of the three legged stool. As such, the POTUS, any POTUS is a powerless eunuch. Their real power actually comes from their ability to convince congress and the senate to back their program. As such, Trump went in pretty much powerless, having upset the Bush dynasty he really had zero republican backers. And, of course, zero democratic backers.
    Pity of the 300 mil. US people that they cannot manage to fight the Virus because their POTUS has not tell them how...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    ....but yeah you're fucked.
    Long time coming.
    Yet, been quite apparent for a few generations.

    Been fucked for some time.
    And not recognized.

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    Turtlehead got cornered, so now we have another ridiculous baldy orange cunto lie.

    Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said on Thursday he was mistaken in claiming that the Obama administration had failed to leave a pandemic playbook for the Trump White House.

    “I was wrong,” McConnell said in an evening interview with Fox News’ Bret Baier. “They did leave behind a plan. So, I clearly made a mistake in that regard.”

    McConnell had claimed during a Monday campaign event for President Donald Trump that the current White House had not been briefed by the previous administration on preparing for a pandemic at the scale of the novel coronavirus. He also slammed former President Barack Obama for criticizing Trump’s coronavirus response (Obama had privately told former aides that it was an “absolute chaotic disaster”), saying Obama “should have kept his mouth shut.”

    “We want to be early, ready for the next one, because clearly the Obama administration did not leave to this administration any kind of game plan for something like this,” McConnell said on Monday during a virtual interview with Lara Trump, the president’s daughter-in-law and campaign adviser.

    But POLITICO
    had reported in March the existence of a document, written by Obama officials that laid out how the incoming Trump administration should respond if faced with a pandemic. The 69-page document contained hundreds of recommendations for dealing with many of the problems plaguing the nation’s coronavirus response — from shortages of personal protective equipment to the need for unified public guidance on the crisis.


    Speaking to reporters on Thursday afternoon, White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany said that the “Obama-Biden plan that has been referenced was insufficient,“ and said the Trump administration had prepared its own pandemic report and exercises last year.

    “In other words, the Obama-Biden paper packet was superseded by a President Trump-style pandemic preparedness response plan,“ McEnany said.

    “Which was much better,“ Trump followed up. “We were given very little when we came into this administration.“
    And of course we know they did nothing of the kind.

    McConnell says he was wrong on Obama pandemic playbook - POLITICO

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    And scientists within their fields are confounded by the disconnected politics [professional and layman] at play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    And scientists within their fields are confounded by the disconnected politics [professional and layman] at play.
    it's almost like a dylan lyric....if dylan had a stroke.

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    Dylan was the name of a rabbit on a kid's tv programme of the seventies in the UK called 'The Magic Roundabout'.

    He talked like he was permanently stoned, though of course as kids we just thought it was a generalised 'flower power' way of talking and that he was just a kind of dozy layabout.

    Dylan was very, very much like jeff.

    President Donald Trump-dylan11024x768-jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    And scientists within their fields are confounded by the disconnected politics [professional and layman] at play.
    Except mycologists.

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    Trump is special, but he's not particularly original. Here's some perspective:


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