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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    Trump personal valet tests positive for coronavirus, but White House says president is negative

    Key Points

    • A personal valet for President Trump, who among other things serves meals to the president, has tested positive for the coronavirus.
    • A White House spokesman said that Trump and Vice President Mike Pence have since tested negative.
    • Trump was “not happy” to learn his valet, who is a member of the military, had tested positive for the virus, an official said.


    Coronavirus: Trump valet tests positive for Covid-19
    Well that bubble got burst somehow. It'll be fun to see how the shitgibbon reacts to the fact the virus got so close.
    Probably try and have someone shot.

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    ^ He was just on the news being questioned about it. He did look a bit worried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    ^ He was just on the news being questioned about it. He did look a bit worried.
    Well he did say some people would be badly affected by opening up/relaxing the rules.
    Last edited by Cujo; 08-05-2020 at 06:26 AM.

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    yes - please go full irony , at least just this once

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Can prayers actually be answered?
    If they are, tell me what religion and I'll sign up straight away.

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    Current affairs presented entertainment style.
    Looks like Colbear enjoys a drinkypoo while broadcasting from home.
    I'm joining him.


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    yesterday a reporter asked trump about his plans for mother's day (this sunday in the US).....

    President Donald Trump-screenshot-2020-05-09-5-16-a

    WTAF?


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    President Donald Trump-cjones05122020-jpg

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    ^^

    The snake oil salesman love’s to be called SIR.

    .......Little does he know , they are referring to him as , Slimball In Residence.

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    oh FFS, is that a crime now not to answer a journo question? you snowflakes are getting more desperate by the day

    how is that impeachment going btw?

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    From Professor Heather Cox Richardson's blog . It's along read but very telling on Russia's grip on Trump and Trump's willingness to be played at the expense of Americans, for whatever reasons .......

    Yesterday’s attempt by the Department of Justice to withdraw the case against Trump's former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn after he had already pled guilty has roiled the country with its assault on the rule of law. Flynn pled guilty to lying to the FBI about five phone calls between himself and the Russian ambassador, Sergey Kislyak, on December 29, the same day the Obama administration announced retaliatory measures for Russian interference in the 2016 election. Flynn told the officials that he and Kislyak did not talk about lifting Russian sanctions after Trump was inaugurated, but news quickly broke that they had. He resigned, pled guilty, and cooperated with the investigation of Special Counsel Robert Mueller into Russian interference in the 2016 election.
    Flynn resigned on February 13, 2017, and the next day Trump summoned FBI Director James Comey to the Oval Office and asked him to drop the case against Flynn. Comey continued to investigate Russian connections to the Trump campaign, and Trump fired him on May 9, 2017. The next day he met in the Oval Office with Russia’s foreign minister, Sergey V. Lavrov, and with Kislyak. He told the men that “I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job…. I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.” He added: “I’m not under investigation.” American journalists were barred from the event, but Russian journalists took photos. Comey’s firing led to the appointment of Special Counsel Robert Mueller to investigate Russian interference in the 2016 election, with Mueller essentially taking over where Comey left off.
    Today we learned that the DOJ move to dismiss the case against Flynn came after a phone call yesterday between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin in which they discussed the US investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election. While the White House simply said that the two leaders had discussed the pandemic, arms control, and the 75th anniversary of Victory in Europe day, Trump told reporters: “I said, ‘You know, it’s a very appropriate time, because things are falling out now and coming in line showing what a hoax this whole investigation was, it was a total disgrace, and I wouldn’t be surprised if you see a lot of things happen over the next number of weeks…. This is just one piece of a very dishonest puzzle.”
    First off, let’s be clear that the US intelligence community, Special Counsel Robert Mueller, and the bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee, all have concluded that Russia interfered in the 2016 election to help Trump’s campaign. In January 2017, shortly before Trump took office, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper released a report that aggregated the findings of the FBI the CIA, and the NSA (National Security Agency, which operates under the authority of the Director of National Intelligence).
    It said: “Russian efforts to influence the 2016 US presidential election represent the most recent expression of Moscow’s longstanding desire to undermine the US-led liberal democratic order, but these activities demonstrated a significant escalation in directness, level of activity, and scope of effort compared to previous operations. We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential election. Russia’s goals were to undermine public faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump. We have high confidence in these judgments.”
    Since this assessment, Trump has attacked FBI agents for launching an illegal investigation and setting out to destroy him for political reasons. But the bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee, chaired by Republican Senator Richard Burr of North Carolina, has consistently supported the work of the intelligence community. On April 21, 2020, it released the fourth of five volumes about Russian interference in 2016. This volume examined the “sources, tradecraft, and analytic work behind the 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA) that determined Russia conducted an unprecedented, multi-faceted campaign to interfere with the 2016 U.S. presidential election.” In other words, was the FBI out to get Trump, or was it doing its business the way it should?
    Like the previous ones, this volume agreed with the intelligence community’s assessment that Russia had interfered in the 2016 election to favor Trump. It concluded that intelligence analysts were under “no political pressure to reach specific conclusions.” Chairman Burr said “The ICA reflects strong tradecraft, sound analytical reasoning, and proper justification of disagreement in the one analytical line where it occurred.” Additionally, Burr warned that Russian interference is ongoing, and threatens the 2020 election.
    The Mueller Report also established that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election. Russian operatives “carried out a social media campaign that favored presidential candidate Donald J. Trump and disparaged presidential candidate Hillary Clinton,” and they stole emails from the Democratic National Committee, as well as Democratic officials, and released the stolen documents.
    But that’s not all from the Mueller Report. It “identified numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump Campaign.” The next sentence is difficult, but it’s important to read the original, and the one after it, because they are so very deliberately worded: “Although the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts, the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.” Then it added: “A statement that the investigation did not establish particular facts does not mean there was no evidence of those facts.”
    Essentially, the Mueller Report says that the Russians wanted to help Trump win, and the Trump campaign was willing to accept help, and that there was evidence the two sides were working together, but Mueller did not have enough evidence—in part because witnesses were lying or withholding evidence—to make a criminal indictment.
    Still, Trump has spent his whole presidency trying to convince Americans that all of these independent career officials and elected officials are persecuting him because they didn’t want him to be elected (although, of course, if so, all their efforts were for naught, because he IS president, and no one has seriously challenged his election). In addition to attacking the intelligence community, he has tried to advance the theory that it was Ukraine, not Russia, that attacked the 2016 election-- a theory that in her testimony before the House Intelligence Committee Russia expert Fiona Hill explained was Russian propaganda.
    And now, Trump’s loyalist in the Department of Justice, Attorney General Barr, has thrown out the findings of his own Justice Department inspector general, Michael Horowitz, who concluded in December 2019 that the FBI investigation of Trump’s campaign was not politically motivated, and that it was begun legitimately. The argument for throwing out the Flynn case is that the FBI interview in which Flynn lied did not have “a legitimate investigative basis,” and therefore the statements were not material even if they were false. This is directly counter to what the DOJ’s own inspector general established.
    Barr has appointed his own special inspector to look into the origins of the Russia probe. He tapped Connecticut U.S. Attorney John Durham, whose inquiry quietly shifted to become a criminal investigation last October. Some observers are concerned that Durham will prosecute those involved in the Russia investigation to give Trump political fodder before the 2020 election. Trump’s comments to reporters today, along with a tweet, were ominous. He tweeted: “Yesterday was a BIG day for Justice in the USA…. Congratulations to General Flynn, and many others. I do believe there is MUCH more to come! Dirty Cops and Crooked Politicians do not go well together!"
    It seems equally likely to me that Trump is simply undermining opposition in the intelligence community so that he can move to lift the sanctions Russia so badly wants gone. In any case, Russia looks to be as big an issue in 2020 as it was four years ago.
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    There are three cases with SCOTUS right now regarding the release of baldy orange cunto's financial records, including Deutsche Bank who, if you remember, were reported to be reluctant to loan baldy a big wad of cash then received a miraculous injection from Russia which loosened their purse strings.

    William Barr has joined at least one case as amicus curiae for baldy, so if you had any reason to think he was impartial, say for example you're a senile fucking coffin dodger, that's pissed all over that.

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    Old man is losing his marbles.
    President Trump on Friday broke with health experts, telling reporters that the coronavirus will “go away without a vaccine.
    Trump says coronavirus will '''go away without a vaccine'''

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    Old man is losing his marbles.<br>
    President Trump on Friday broke with health experts, telling reporters that the coronavirus will “go away without a vaccine.
    <br>Trump says coronavirus will '&#39;'go away without a vaccine'&#39;'

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    actually, a number of virus specialists are saying the same thing as Trump, there might be evidence that the virus has a limited cycle, and could disappear

    hard to believe, so will have to wait and see

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Hardly . . . who are these credible virus specialists who say that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Hardly . . . who are these credible virus specialists who say that?


    Yup
    buy a brain, and do your research, but Prof. Raoult in France is one of the scientist, now go on Google and find out yourself instead of relying on the usual idiots on TD

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    Did Buttplug really quote that mental case?

    I suppose it figures, these whackjobs all gravitate towards each other.


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    I am completely and utterly fascinated by the Conway's. How in the name of all fuckery does it even work!?

    The dynamic must be so weird. They'd have to have some sort of 'No Shop Talk' rule in place for the home. It really is utterly bizarre.


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    One of the principle reasons that they continue to struggle through this crisis.
    A minor factor would be society's attitude.

    Either way, they're fucked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Prof. Raoult in France is one of the scientist, now go on Google and find out yourself
    What's 'Quack' in French?


    The popular faith in hydroxychloroquine stands in stark contrast to the weakness of the data. Several studies of its efficacy against COVID-19 have delivered an equivocal or negative verdict, and it can have significant side effects, including heart arrhythmias. Raoult’s positive studies have been widely criticized for their limitations and methodological issues. The first included only 42 patients, and Raoult chose who received the drug or a placebo, a no-no in clinical research; the International Society of Antimicrobial Chemotherapy has distanced itself from the paper, published in the society’s International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents. The second study, published as a preprint without peer review, didn’t have a control group at all.
    Is France’s president fueling the hype over an unproven coronavirus treatment? | Science | AAAS


    He really has to be one of the dumbest people alive
    '...one of...'?

    There's still competition?

    Christ, what a worrying thought.

    Sadly it isn't just stupidity though, is it? Trump's stupidity is mixed with a whole heap of far more worrying character traits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    I am completely and utterly fascinated by the Conway's. How in the name of all fuckery does it even work!?
    The dynamic must be so weird.
    ...separate bedrooms...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...separate bedrooms...
    Man is incapable of constructing a wall big enough separate those two rooms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbound View Post
    Man is incapable of constructing a wall big enough separate those two rooms.
    Kellyanne doesn't like baldy orange cunto, she spent ages slagging him off until he made her a better offer.

    I bet when she gets home she says to George "the dumb shit believed me again!" and counts the money.

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    Under Trump, American exceptionalism means poverty, misery and death



    No other advanced nation denies healthcare and work protections, or loosens lockdown while fatalities mount

    No other nation has endured as much death from Covid-19 nor nearly as a high a death rate as has the United States.

    With 4.25% of the world population, America has the tragic distinction of accounting for about 30% of pandemic deaths so far.

    And it is the only advanced nation where the death rate is still climbing. Three thousand deaths per day are anticipated by 1 June.

    No other nation has loosened lockdowns and other social-distancing measures while deaths are increasing, as the US is now doing.

    No other advanced nation was as unprepared for the pandemic as was the US.

    We now know Donald Trump and his administration were told by public health experts in mid-January that immediate action was required to stop the spread of Covid-19. But according to Dr Anthony Fauci, “there was a lot of pushback”. Trump didn’t act until 16 March.

    Around the world, governments are providing generous income support. Not in the US
    Epidemiologists estimate 90% of the deaths in the US from the first wave of Covid-19 might have been prevented had social distancing policies been put into effect two weeks earlier, on 2 March.



    No nation other than the US has left it to subordinate units of government – states and cities – to buy ventilators and personal protective equipment. In no other nation have such sub-governments been forced to bid against each another.

    In no other nation have experts in public health and emergency preparedness been pushed aside and replaced by political cronies like Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, who in turn has been advised by Trump donors and Fox News celebrities.

    In no other advanced nation has Covid-19 forced so many average citizens into poverty so quickly. The Urban Institute reports that more than 30% of American adults have had to reduce their spending on food.

    Elsewhere around the world, governments are providing generous income support. Not in the US.

    At best, Americans have received one-time checks for $1,200, about a week’s worth of rent, groceries and utilities. Few are collecting unemployment benefits because unemployment offices are overwhelmed with claims.

    Congress’s “payroll protection program” has been a mess. Because funds have been distributed through financial institutions, banks have raked off money for themselves and rewarded their favored customers. Of the $350bn originally intended for small businesses, $243.4m has gone to large, publicly held companies.

    Meanwhile, the treasury and the Fed are bailing out big corporations from the debts they accumulated in recent years to buy back their shares of stock.

    Why is America so different from other advanced nations facing the same coronavirus threat? Why has everything gone so tragically wrong?

    Some of it is due to Trump and his hapless and corrupt collection of grifters, buffoons, sycophants, lobbyists and relatives.

    But there are also deeper roots.

    American workers are far less unionized than workers in other advanced economies
    The coronavirus has been especially potent in the US because America is the only industrialized nation lacking universal healthcare. Many families have been reluctant to see doctors or check into emergency rooms for fear of racking up large bills.
    America is also the only one of 22 advanced nations failing to give all workers some form of paid sick leave. As a result, many American workers have remained on the job when they should have been home.

    Adding to this is the skimpiness of unemployment benefits in America – providing less support in the first year of unemployment than those in any other advanced country.

    American workplaces are also more dangerous. Even before Covid-19 ripped through meatpackers and warehouses, fatality rates were higher among American workers than European.

    Even before the pandemic robbed Americans of their jobs and incomes, average wage growth in the US had lagged behind average wage growth in most other advanced countries. Since 1980, American workers’ share of total national income has declined more than in any other rich nation.


    In other nations, unions have long pushed for safer working conditions and higher wages. But American workers are far less unionized than workers in other advanced economies. Only 6.4% of private-sector workers in America belong to a union, compared with more than 26% in Canada, 37% in Italy, 67% in Sweden, and 25% in Britain.

    So who and what’s to blame for the worst avoidable loss of life in American history?

    Partly, Donald Trump’s malfeasance.

    But the calamity is also due to America’s longer-term failure to provide its people the basic support they need.
    Under Trump, American exceptionalism means poverty, misery and death | Robert Reich | Opinion | The Guardian


    "Why is America so different from other advanced nations facing the same coronavirus threat? Why has everything gone so tragically wrong?

    Some of it is due to Trump and his hapless and corrupt collection of grifters, buffoons, sycophants, lobbyists and relatives."
    “If we stop testing right now we’d have very few cases, if any.” Donald J Trump.

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