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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie
    Well, actually the Affordable Care Act is still in effect.

    However, the two vehicles that were to fund most of it, the Cadillac Tax and the Individual Mandate are dead - Trump killed the individual mandate after good ole McCain showed his childish side with his grandiose thumbs down HaHa gotcha gesture. As far as the Cadillac Tax - well, perhaps you Dems can explain how The Democratic-led House of Representatives has overwhelmingly voted to repeal a tax on high-cost health insurance plans under Obamacare known as the "Cadillac tax." The 419-6 vote is a signal of bipartisan unity against a key provision of the Affordable Care Act.

    Now, as far as our do nothing repubs - for all the caterwauling they did throughout Obamas administration and the campaigning leading up to the elections - paraphrasing Trumps word - Trump said he expected the repubs to have their plan on his desk for signature on day one. Naught but a bunch of bullshit artists. They delivered squat - because they have squat.

    But - the truth of the matter is the medicos, pharmas and insurance companies have all american politicians in their pockets - the system is set up and maintained by expert financiers (best money can buy) to soak every last penny out of the american public provided under the guise of the very best medical care money can buy - it truly is the worlds best con game.

    And, they'll play both sides against each other in a most grandiose show and the american public, dems and repubs, accept it, because... They Can Not Fix It... it has grown for too long and is deeply ingrained - tear down and rebuilt...
    Quod Erat Demonstrandum.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Quod Erat Demonstrandum.

    You're not wrong.

    I wonder how many millions of Americans have lost their health coverage with their jobs in recent weeks.

    America is fucking dumb because it keeps voting in the people that want health care as a profit centre not a right.

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    now that's a QED - mirror, mirror...

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    I wonder how many millions of Americans have lost their health coverage with their jobs in recent weeks.

    America is fucking dumb because it keeps voting in the people that want health care as a profit centre not a right.
    It's ridiculous. No matter how objectively wrong they are they'd still rather scream about it all being 'Socialism!' than to have effective and affordable health care.

    That country is broken as fock.

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    More Political then Medical, hence here ...

    Top vaccine doctor says his concern about Trump’s coronavirus treatment theory led to ouster from federal agency



    Key Points

    • A doctor who was removed as head of the federal agency that is helping develop a vaccine for the coronavirus said he was ousted he called for resistance to widespread adoption of a drug promoted by President Donald Trump as a treatment for Covid-19.
    • Dr. Rick Bright also said that he believed he was removed from his post because he insisted that “the billions of dollars allocated by Congress to address the Covid-19 pandemic” be put toward “safe and scientifically vetted solutions, and not in drugs, vaccines and other technologies that lack scientific merit.”


    Coronavirus treatment: Vaccine doctor says worry about Trump idea led to ouster
    Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbound View Post
    jesus, you loons never stop with your new conspiracy theories

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    Who knew about these Iranian Flying Gunboats? (Or is it Flying Iranian Gunboats?)




    Donald J. Trump
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    I have instructed the United States Navy to shoot down and destroy any and all Iranian gunboats if they harass our ships at sea.

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    ^ How does that edict fit current International Maritime Laws?

    IMO ... what say you?

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    Trump attacks Washington Post article, claiming CDC chief Redfield was misquoted. Redfield later said he wasn't.

    Trump attacks Washington Post article, claiming CDC chief Redfield was misquoted. Redfield later said he wasn'''t. [Video]

    I reckon Trump's going to blow a fuse any day now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    More Political then Medical, hence here ...

    Top vaccine doctor says his concern about Trump’s coronavirus treatment theory led to ouster from federal agency



    Key Points

    • A doctor who was removed as head of the federal agency that is helping develop a vaccine for the coronavirus said he was ousted he called for resistance to widespread adoption of a drug promoted by President Donald Trump as a treatment for Covid-19.
    • Dr. Rick Bright also said that he believed he was removed from his post because he insisted that “the billions of dollars allocated by Congress to address the Covid-19 pandemic” be put toward “safe and scientifically vetted solutions, and not in drugs, vaccines and other technologies that lack scientific merit.”


    Coronavirus treatment: Vaccine doctor says worry about Trump idea led to ouster
    all trump did was espouse the treatment numerous doctors around the world were using to treat c19. though tried and proven vaccines have their place when you are dealing with a rapidly spreading global pandemic you must use whatever tools that are at your disposal. during he c19 crisis the only safe and scient vetted solutions are essentially supportive care which often enough falls short prior to death. supportinve care does not slow or stop or reverse the c19 virus

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    Quote Originally Posted by EKG View Post
    all trump did was espouse the treatment numerous doctors around the world were using to treat c19. though tried and proven vaccines have their place when you are dealing with a rapidly spreading global pandemic you must use whatever tools that are at your disposal. during he c19 crisis the only safe and scient vetted solutions are essentially supportive care which often enough falls short prior to death. supportinve care does not slow or stop or reverse the c19 virus
    Complete bullshit

    It started with a failed study by a group of French scientists.

    Before the study was even published, some lying sack of shit lawyer, claiming to be affiliated with Stanford University, came on Tucker Carlson’s show, and claimed
    hydroxychloroquine had a “100% cure rate against coronavirus”. Being Faux News’ #1 viewer, Trump jumped all over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EKG View Post
    all trump did was espouse the treatment numerous doctors around the world were using to treat c19.
    What utter bollocks.

    There was one small trial that "hinted" at success.

    And far more that warned of the risks of dangerous cardiac events.

    Stupid baldy orange cunto went at it like it had cured cancer.

    Clearly you weren't watching any of it.

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    368 american veterans with corona.
    Deathrate for ones treated with clorokin:28%
    .................................................c lorokin and antibiotics:22 %
    .................................................. ordinary treatment: 11%

    Not "peerreviewed" yet

    From a danish newspaper



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    Quote Originally Posted by EKG View Post
    all trump did was espouse the treatment numerous doctors around the world were using to treat c19
    of you go - dose yourself up

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    In the vacuum of world leadership in world politics left by Trump, Frau Merkel steps up and gives the vacuous one a lesson in what leadership in times of crisis should look like. A complete contrast to the mixed garbage that Trump has been spouting.


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    America, this is your president...

    Trump suggests 'injection' of disinfectant to beat coronavirus and 'clean' the lungs

    President Donald Trump suggested the possibility of an “injection” of disinfectant into a person infected with coronavirus as a coronavirus deterrent at the White House daily briefing on Thursday...
    Trump suggests '''injection''' of disinfectant to beat coronavirus and '''clean''' the lungs

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    ^^
    oh my GOD!!

    ^
    My Mrs. just said the same thing.


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    seems trump doesn't really know and out of curiosity asks whether something like that is possible

    i fail to hear him suggesting people should inject disinfectant

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbound View Post
    Complete bullshit

    It started with a failed study by a group of French scientists.

    Before the study was even published, some lying sack of shit lawyer, claiming to be affiliated with Stanford University, came on Tucker Carlson’s show, and claimed
    hydroxychloroquine had a “100% cure rate against coronavirus”. Being Faux News’ #1 viewer, Trump jumped all over it.
    do you think treating doctors around the world in numerous countries were swayed by what that lawyer said on the tucker carlson show?

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    Last edited by beachbound; 24-04-2020 at 10:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    what say you?
    After the Cole I would consider any boat buzzing a US warship an identified and serious threat

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    Many people are saying he gives the best financial advice ever, just the best.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    After the Cole I would consider any boat buzzing a US warship an identified and serious threat
    Especially from the air.

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    deleted....video already posted.
    Last edited by raycarey; 24-04-2020 at 12:39 PM.

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