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    He seems to be losing it.
    This is crazy, check out the video. Nice to see him called on his BS "Who told you that???"
    He's decided he IS the emporer after all.




    Donald Trump has declared in a White House briefing that his “authority is total” when it comes to lockdown rules during the coronavirus pandemic, and he denied that he was weighing firing Dr Anthony Fauci, the country’s foremost infectious diseases expert who sits on the coronavirus task force.


    After a weekend reprieve from presidential briefings that have been likened to Trump rallies for their uninterrupted flow of Trumpian id, the president returned to the lectern on Monday to deliver one of his most bizarre performances yet.




    He played a campaign video produced by White House staff, in a possible violation of elections laws, that he said highlighted the media’s downplaying of the coronavirus crisis in the early stages of the pandemic.


    He jousted with journalists who questioned a tweet he had sent earlier in the day, in which he claimed to have fiat power to override orders by state governors to close nonessential businesses and public spaces and encourage residents to shelter at home.


    And Trump bristled at the suggestion that his power was restricted by the American federalist construct, which grants autonomy to the 50 states, and which he has repeatedly during the coronavirus crisis attempted to disrupt.


    “When somebody is the President of the United States, the authority is total,” Trump said, referring to matters of public health and police powers inside the states. The assertion was dogpiled by legal analysts as a gross and wild misreading of the Constitution.


    But Trump was not just challenged on the airwaves and on Twitter – he was challenged in the room, including by Paula Reid of CBS News, who asked him what his administration did in the month of February, when the health department declared an emergency, to fight the virus.


    In response he attacked the media’s “approval rating".


    Then Trump was confronted by CNN White House correspondent Kaitlan Collins, who asked him about his “authority is total” line.


    “That is not true,” Collins said.


    Trump spluttered in reply: “You know what we’re going to do? We’re going to write up papers on this. It’s not going to be necessary. Because the governors need us one way or the other. Because ultimately it comes with the federal government. That being said we’re getting along very well with the governors, and I feel very certain that there won’t be a problem.”
    Has any governor agreed that you have the authority? Collins asked.
    “I haven’t asked anybody. You know why? Because I don’t have to,” Trump said.


    Who told you that the president has a total authority? Collins asked.


    “Enough. Please,” said Trump.
    Trump claims 'total authority' and attacks media in chaotic coronavirus briefing | World news | The Guardian

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    all those leaders are losing it, probably the confinement

    now Macron wants us locked down until May 11, I mean WTF???? it's fooking pointless, we can't stop that thing

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    "If you were to write a playbook for how not to prevent a public-health crisis, you would study the work of the Trump administration in the first three months of 2020.

    The Trump White House, through some combination of ignorance, arrogance, and incompetence, failed to heed the warnings of its own experts. It failed to listen to the projections of one of its own economic advisers. It failed to take seriously what has become the worst pandemic since the 1918 flu and the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. And when the White House finally awoke to the seriousness of COVID-19, the response it mustered managed to contain all the worst traits of this presidency. Trump and his closest aides have ignored scientists, enlisted family members and TV personalities and corporate profiteers for help, and disregarded every protocol for how to communicate during a pandemic while spewing misinformation and lies."


    Chaos, Denial, and Dysfunction: Inside Trump's Coronavirus Task Force - Rolling Stone[/I][/SIZE][/QUOTE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    That's just insane . . . ^. "When someone is the president of the United States the authority is total"

    I know the following is better placed in the political cartoon thread but . . . it just seems so right


    Attachment 48783
    The best of these was John Oliver's comment imo.

    A picture of Trump, the ship's captain, alone in the first lifeboat launched from the Titanic.

    Trump saying 'Great lifeboats. People can't get enough of them. On other ships they hardly get used at all. People aren't even interested in them. Not these. Just terrific lifeboats.'

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    Here's the man himself.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Every time Trump lashes out at the media or a journo in particular as being "fake" or asking "nasty questions" it's because he has been caught short again and knows his sham and con has been exposed.
    Truer words.....

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    Explainer: Trump has little power to restart U.S. economy

    The Republican president also accused the news media of incorrectly saying U.S. governors are largely the ones who decide when normal economic activity can resume.

    But legal experts say a U.S. president has quite limited power to order citizens back to their places of employment, or cities to reopen government buildings, transportation, or local businesses.
    Here is why.

    What does the Constitution say about who makes decisions about public welfare?

    The United States is a federalist system, meaning power is shared between a national and state governments.

    Under the 10th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, state governments have power to police citizens and regulate public welfare. In the country’s early years, it was up to state and local authorities to lead the response to the yellow fever epidemic, not the federal government.

    Reflecting these principles, “disaster response and aid is typically state-led and federally supported,” said Steve Bunnell, the former top lawyer at the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and a partner at O’Melveny & Myers.

    This bottom-up, rather than top-down, approach to disaster relief makes sense from a policy perspective, said John Cohen, a former DHS official who teaches at Georgetown University.

    “Usually, state and local officials on the ground have the best understanding of the issues affecting people in their states,” Cohen said.

    Can a U.S. president override state-mandated “shelter in place” orders?

    No. The Trump administration can issue nationwide guidance, but it would be unconstitutional for the president to override stay-at-home orders from governors, said Robert Chesney, a professor of national security law at the University of Texas. Mayors or county commissioners are on the same footing as governors, he said.

    “This is Federalism 101: The president can advocate to his heart’s content, but he can’t actually commandeer the state governments to make them change their policies,” Chesney said. “He has no such inherent authority, nor is there any federal statute that purports to give him such authority.”

    The social distancing policies Trump announced for slowing the spread of the novel coronavirus were merely guidelines, and the same goes for any newer, less restrictive policies he unveils, Chesney said.

    “Those are guidelines. He can change his advice,” Chesney said. “He is free to advocate. And that is an important part of the presidency — the bully pulpit.”

    Bunnell said many people look to the president for guidance, so Trump’s advice will still affect the economy.

    “The federal government has a role to play in setting recommendations, and the daily press briefings obviously have an effect on how people react,” Bunnell said. “But in terms of legal authorities to override health and safety measures, I’m not sure there are any direct tools that would accomplish that.”

    Can a U.S. president order a business to stay open?

    A federal agency that’s a subset of DHS deemed some businesses “essential” on March 19. But the federal memo itself notes that state and local authorities are “ultimately in charge of implementing and executing response activities in communities under their jurisdiction.”

    The Defense Production Act, which lets the president “expedite and expand the supply of resources from the U.S. industrial base,” can be used to procure more tests and other medical equipment from companies. But that represents a fraction of the U.S.’s consumer-driven economy.

    What about a U.S. president’s emergency powers?

    A federal law known as the National Emergencies Act (NEA) gives the president broad powers to respond to national emergencies, including the authority to redirect funds and suspend laws.

    Trump invoked the Stafford Act and the NEA on March 13, as he declared a national emergency.

    But the NEA is a poor fit for a president trying to encourage business as usual, Cohen said.

    “It tends to give the president the authority to be more restrictive, not less restrictive,” Cohen said. “It does not let the president say ‘disregard the restrictions of your state and local leaders.’”

    Explainer: Trump has little power to restart U.S. economy - Reuters

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    The massive difference between how Ardern and her Minister of Health address the nation and reporters is simply immense to how Trump does his daily self-congratulatory vomit is astounding
    It is simply unbearable for me to watch that orange moron get in front of the podium and basically stroke his ego above all other things. People are losing their lives and there is no doubt that the death toll is higher due to the fact that he is in control.

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    trump announced an 'economic advisory group' to address the fallout from the covid-19 pandemic.

    one of the people appointed to this group is an economist named larry lindsey.

    you can start the countdown until lindsey is off the committee....

    Speaking with House Republican leadership and top committee Republicans last year, Lindsey called Trump “a 10-out-of-10 narcissist,” POLITICO Playbook reported last May. He went so far as to say the president didn’t get enough attention from his mother in his childhood.


    Lindsey claimed at the time that Trump was unable to make long-term plans, with the long-term decision-making abilities of an “empty chair.”
    Economist who called Trump a ‘total narcissist’ is appointed to coronavirus council - POLITICO




    btw, no need to ask.....of course his daughter and son-in-law are members of the advisory group.

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    and call me a cynic, but this advisory group is only being formed for one reason.....if there's a second wave of the virus in the US and thousands of deaths due to limited social distancing, trump can push the blame on someone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    My wife works at a policy centre that is connected with Covid-19 as an adjunct, so we watch the NZ PM's daily broadcasts, as she is working from home.

    The massive difference between how Ardern and her Minister of Health address the nation and reporters is simply immense to how Trump does his daily self-congratulatory vomit is astounding
    It's particularly odd and dangerous.
    It's all [and only] about him.
    Creating everything political.
    Denial and delusion are his favourite pastimes.


    .....all the while, Rome is burning big time.

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    Trump turns against WHO to mask his own stark failings on Covid-19 crisis

    Trump suspends WHO funding as global deaths pass 125,000

    Dishonest decision to pull funding from World Health Organisation will endanger public health.
    Donald Trump’s declared suspension of funding of the World Health Organisation in the midst of a pandemic is confirmation – if any were needed – that he is in search of scapegoats for his administration’s much delayed and chaotic response to the crisis.


    The US is the WHO’s biggest donor, with funding over $400m a year in both assessed contributions (membership fees) and donations – though it is actually $200m in arrears.


    Theoretically the White House cannot block funding of international institutions mandated by Congress. But the administration has found ways around such constitutional hurdles on other issues – by simply failing to disburse funds or apply sanctions, for example.


    The funding could be formally rescinded, but that would require Senate approval, or “reprogrammed” by being diverted to another purpose that the White House could argue is consistent with the will of Congress.


    “Whatever form it takes, this is a deeply shortsighted and dangerous decision - at any time, let alone during a ... pandemic,” said Alexandra Phelan, assistant professor at the Center for Global Health Science and Security at Georgetown University.


    “It’s a bizarre decision that would be profoundly detrimental to global public health,” said Gavin Yamey, the director of Duke University’s center for policy impact in global health. “He’s trying to distract from his own errors that have led to the worst government response to Covid-19 on Earth.”


    Public health officials generally agree that the WHO’s response to the pandemic has not been perfect, but much improved on the organisation’s lambasted performance in the face of the Ebola outbreak in 2014, and immeasurably better than how the US has handled Covid-19.


    The WHO first raised the alert over the Wuhan outbreak on 5 January, and beginning on 7 January it was briefing public health officials from the US and other national governments on the outbreak in regular teleconference calls. On 9 January the WHO distributed guidance to member states for their own risk assessment and planning.


    Trump and his supporters have focused on a 14 January WHO tweet reporting the findings of preliminary Chinese studies suggesting “no clear evidence” of human-to-human transmission.


    While the WHO was obliged to report on the latest findings of a member state at the source of the outbreak, its officials told their counterparts in technical briefings on 10 and 11 January, and briefed the press on 14 January, that human-to-human transmission was still a strong possibility given the experience of past coronavirus epidemics and urged suitable precautions.


    Yamey said it was ridiculous to point to a single tweet early in the pandemic as the fixed position of the WHO. “The whole point of science is that we have initial hypotheses and initial ideas, and we update those ideas as more and more data emerges,” he said.


    On 23 January the WHO updated its account of the coronavirus threat, confirming human-to-human transmission and warning that the global risk was high. One week later it formally declared a global emergency.


    Announcing the cut in funding on Tuesday, Trump accused the WHO of failing to send its experts to the source of the outbreak to gather samples. That failure decisively set back the effect to contain the pandemic, he claimed.


    In fact Beijing blocked a WHO delegation from visiting Wuhan in the first weeks of the outbreak. The WHO director general, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, had to fly to Beijing to meet Xi Jinping on 29 January to negotiate entry and information sharing. A WHO team was allowed to visit Wuhan on 22 February. Tedros has been criticised for his flattery of Xi and the Chinese response, in the face of Beijing’s obstructionism and cover-up attempts. His defenders said that such diplomacy was the price for entry.


    Trump did more than his own fair share of Xi flattery. On 24 January, the president tweeted “China has been working very hard to contain the coronavirus … The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency.”


    The claim that the delay in the WHO acquiring samples crippled the international response is also false. Chinese scientists publicly released the genetic sequence of Covid-19 on 11 January.


    By early February the WHO was in a position to distribute a Covid-19 test worldwide, but the US government opted not to have it fast-tracked through approval. The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) instead produced its own test at about the same time, but it was flawed and had to be recalled. US testing would be set back more than six weeks compared to the rest of the world.


    While virtually no testing was under way in the US throughout February, Trump assumed the consequently low number of confirmed US cases meant that his country had somehow escaped. “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA,” he boasted on 24 February, nearly a month after the WHO declaration of emergency. “We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health [Organisation] have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”


    Trump’s turn against the WHO only gathered pace over the past week, as more and more reports emerged of the administration’s own complacent and dysfunctional response.


    The impact of a block on US funds is likely to mitigated by other countries, who have almost unanimously expressed confidence in the WHO, stepping up their own financial backing. The UK, for example, has announced £200m in new funding for international efforts to contain and combat the pandemic, of which £65m is earmarked for the WHO.


    How well Trump’s scapegoating of the WHO will play in the US election is impossible to predict, but on the world stage it will undoubtedly be seen as yet another step in an accelerating US abdication of leadership on the world stage.

    Trump turns against WHO to mask his own stark failings on Covid-19 crisis | US news | The Guardian

    IT SEEMS HE REALLY MEANT IT WHEN HE SAID HE TAKES NO RESPONSIBILITY. For anything EVER!

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    God almighty what a monumental prick.

    The Washington Post reports that Donald Trump’s name will be added to to $1,200 relief checks being sent to 70 million Americans – and that this “unprecedented” decision will “slow their delivery by several days.”

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    that press conf with the video clip was legend

    the face of the journalists, they must have been in total shock, or maybe not

    loved the following questioning, that was epic TV reality, awesome shit, Trump surpassed his best performance to date

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post

    btw, no need to ask.....of course his daughter and son-in-law are members of the advisory group.
    brilliant

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    baldy orange cunto just forgets what he says as soon as it leaves his empty head. The PACs shouldn't have too much trouble picking him to pieces.


    The more immediate news from the briefing was Trump’s announcement that they would withhold funding from the World Health Organization until a review of the organization is completed.

    He blamed the WHO for being too slow to respond to the coronavirus and for being too willing to accept China’s word about how it had spread in Wuhan. In a now infamous Jan. 14 tweet, the WHO wrote, “Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China.”

    Obviously, that was false.
    Trump said that the WHO “willingly took China’s assurances at face value … and they defended the actions of the Chinese government, even praising China for its so-called ‘transparency.’ I don’t think so.”

    He added, “The WHO’s reliance on China’s disclosures likely caused a twentyfold increase in cases worldwide and it may be much more than that.”


    But
    the president’s criticism of the WHO quickly generated questions of why he, too, praised China for its transparency, including a Jan. 24 tweet in which he wrote, “China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!”

    At the briefing, Bloomberg’s Jordan Fabian and later CNN’s Kaitlan Collins and later queried the president about this, but Trump didn’t directly address why he once gave credit to Beijing.

    https://deadline.com/2020/04/coronavirus-donald-trump-cnn-msnbc-1202908596/

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    Page not found | The Guardian

    A really good read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Page not found | The Guardian

    A really good read.
    A Donald Trump brain scan ?


    Bastard you

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    don't seem to be able post the link for some reason.

    Three months after the coronavirus arrived in the US, and more than 23,000 deaths later, the president thinks he has figured out what ails us


    Donald Trump has identified the enemy. Three months after the coronavirus arrived in the United States, and more than 23,000 deaths later, our president has put his finger on what ails us.

    It is not, as he may have said many times, invisible. It is not even a very brilliant virus that has outsmarted the world’s antibiotics. It is, in fact, the media.

    I warned of Trump’s attack on science. But I never predicted the horror that lay ahead | Ariel Dorfman
    Yes, you know who you are, you viral agents of destruction. Because of you, our valiant commander-in-chief was forced to spend the bulk of his so-called media briefing on Easter Monday taking the fight against the pandemic to where it really needs to be waged: with reporters.

    Hospitals may be at breaking point, and the economy may be in a depression. But our brave American hero devoted precious White House resources to the most urgent task of all: rebutting a New York Times investigation into how he frittered away all those months since China lost control of the virus in Hubei.

    Donning his own N95 mask of truth, our nation’s very stable genius commanded the lights be dimmed inside the White House briefing room and for the video to roll.

    How he demonstrated his courage by banning travel from China at the end of January, even though 40,000 still managed to enter the country!

    How he skipped over the entire month of February to jump to all the many big numbers and other things he said in March!

    Abandon hope, all ye who enter the briefing room!
    Except for Paula Reid of CBS who pointed out – frankly a little too often – that Trump didn’t use the time after his China “travel ban” to do, well, anything.

    “You’re so disgraceful,” Trump shot back with the kind of rapier-like rejoinder that makes him a modern-day Cyrano.

    When Reid pressed on with her pesky questions about what he was doing for the entire month of February, Trump promised to give her “the list”.

    “Look, look, you know you’re a fake,” he said with a flourish. “The people are wise to you. That’s why you have a lower approval rating.”


    Allow us, Mr President, to save you the time of coming up with your list of all the many bold and – dare we say it – quite brilliant things you said and did in February, as the virus was spreading across America.

    For the first half of the month, you said the warm weather would cause the virus to go away. For the second half, you said it was very much under control. By the end of the month, you said the numbers of cases “within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero”. Oh yes, and you predicted that “one day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear”.

    And so, like a miracle, our historic leader – he won’t call himself historic, but many people tell him he is – has made the month of February vanish from our collective memory. Because, quite frankly, what has February ever done for America? It doesn’t even have 30 days.

    Monday was a day for kicking some rebuttal. The briefing began with Dr Anthony Fauci, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases director responsible for protecting millions of American souls, expressing regret for his choice of words in a TV interview on Sunday.

    Fauci may be the only man standing between us and a catastrophically large death toll. But his main job right now is to protect one man’s ego – or else his words won’t penetrate that man’s exceptionally thick cranium.

    What on earth did Fauci say to hurt our president’s feelings so much? Just the blindingly obvious: that an earlier shutdown would have saved lives. “I mean, obviously, if we had, right from the very beginning, shut everything down, it may have been a little bit different,” he explained to CNN’s Jake Tapper. “But there was a lot of pushback about shutting things down back then.”

    That was so Sunday. By Monday, America’s greatest living immunologist said that was a poor choice of words, and he bristled when reporters suggested he wasn’t rolling back his words voluntarily. “Everything I do is voluntary,” he snapped. “Please. Don’t even imply that.”

    While Fauci was visibly steamed, Trump was visibly swaggering.
    His shoulders shimmied at the mere mention of his “travel ban”. His spirits soared at his staff-made video showing Democratic governors thanking him for his support.

    The resurrection of Trump’s ego was an Easter miracle only matched by some guy in the Bible whose ratings were a lot worse

    Never mind the recovery of Boris Johnson. The resurrection of Trump’s ego was an Easter miracle only matched by some guy in the Bible whose ratings were a lot worse.

    “We could give you hundreds of clips like that. We have them,” he said, like a hostage-taker playing with our hopes. “I had some clips from Anthony that were really good.” Specifically, our courageous commander-in-chief had some clips of the good doctor saying he had saved “a lot of lives” with his so-called travel ban.

    So what if he retweeted some random supporter who used the hashtag #FireFauci? “That’s somebody’s opinion,” Trump said, unconvincingly, while also saying, unconvincingly, that he wasn’t firing him. “Not everybody’s happy with Anthony. Not everybody’s happy with everybody.”

    Not everybody is safe in their homes at night. Not everybody gets in their car without it blowing up.

    And not everybody spends all their free time searching for something nice to retweet about himself. Even if it comes from random callers on C-Span.


    It may possibly be the case – and we must be careful in our diagnosis without full testing capabilities – that this president is a microscopically small virus inhabiting the body of a very large nation.

    What other kind of organism would claim to have “total authority” over his own country? Only a mutant life form relying on that non-existent line in the constitution that says, as he put it, “when someone is president of the United States, the authority is total”.

    We could wait for the massed ranks of the Republican party, and all the many judges it has recently confirmed to lifetime appointments, to condemn such brazenly un-American sentiments. After all, these are the same people who claimed that Obamacare was unconstitutional.

    Or we could just sit back and admire the brilliance of this virus who has outsmarted the world’s constitutional conservatives, its medical scientists and the deviant media.

    Is it bold? Absolutely. Is it leadership? We’ll get back to you in November.
    “If we stop testing right now we’d have very few cases, if any.” Donald J Trump.

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    I've just seen an exchange on FB where one person was pointing out Trump's failings over coronavirus and the comments he made downplaying it and another person flat-out denying that and blaming it on a conspiracy from the media / elites. That's the power of Trump: he can tell baldfaced lies and with the minimal of gaslighting effort have his supporters repeat them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    God almighty what a monumental prick.

    The Washington Post reports that Donald Trump’s name will be added to to $1,200 relief checks being sent to 70 million Americans – and that this “unprecedented” decision will “slow their delivery by several days.”
    Colbert: "That legally makes you a porn star".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    God almighty what a monumental prick.

    The Washington Post reports that Donald Trump’s name will be added to to $1,200 relief checks being sent to 70 million Americans – and that this “unprecedented” decision will “slow their delivery by several days.”

    Brilliant marketing.

    He's being a cvnt to the recipients for whom the delay in the arrival will cause distress.

    Who gives a fuck? Certainly not the POTUS

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    I've just seen an exchange on FB where one person was pointing out Trump's failings over coronavirus and the comments he made downplaying it and another person flat-out denying that and blaming it on a conspiracy from the media / elites. That's the power of Trump: he can tell baldfaced lies and with the minimal of gaslighting effort have his supporters repeat them.
    don't be ridiculous, Trump alone or his staff couldn't change a lightbulb in the WH, what makes you think they could have fixed this from the start?

    it was going to be a shitshow from day 1, so at least he is entertaining us with his best performance. The truth is irrelevant here, everyone is wrong.

    Wonderboy Press Darling Obama would have fucked up the same, and wouldn't have saved anyone with a big cheque like Trump did !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly
    don't be ridiculous, Trump alone or his staff couldn't change a lightbulb in the WH, what makes you think they could have fixed this from the start?
    Nice non-sequitur. Who said anything about fixing it from the start. Not denying, lying, and trying to pass the buck would've been a better start.

    Trump is more concerned with his TV ratings and turning media sessions into mini-campaign rallies.

    Meanwhile people are dying, if you think that's something to troll over then fill yer boots I guess.

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