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    Desperately thrashing about looking for a scapegoat.


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    Can you copy and post the text? All I get is a big subsribe now banner.



    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    And it's not because he owns stock in a company that makes it as you may have thought.
    A good read and take on Trump.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...xychloroquine/

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    Quote Originally Posted by thailazer View Post
    Can you copy and post the text? All I get is a big subsribe now banner.
    Sorry, me as well now. Shouldn't have been so lazy last night when it opened.
    Anyway the upshot is it's because he wants to say he knows more than the experts and he gets his information from quacks and charletons and gets into a feedback loop with fox, where he'll say something he heard or that he thinks, fox will pick it up then he'll see it on fox, reinforcing his belief.
    Pretty retarded stuff but made sense the way they put it. (much more elegantly and thorough than I)
    “If we stop testing right now we’d have very few cases, if any.” Donald J Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    And it's not because he owns stock in a company that makes it as you may have thought.
    A good read and take on Trump.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...xychloroquine/
    It doesn't stop there.

    President Donald Trump on Sunday once again touted the potential life-saving benefits of treating coronavirus patients with hydroxychloroquine, a powerful anti-malaria drug, despite a dearth of medical professionals or clinical evidence supporting his claims. It just so happens that one of the largest manufacturers of the drug, Novartis, previously paid Trump’s now-incarcerated former personal attorney Michael Cohen more than $1 million for healthcare policy insight following Trump’s election in 2016.


    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/major-producer-of-hydroxychloroquine-once-paid-michael-cohen-hefty-sum-for-access-to-trump/ar-BB12eeHz



    And Giuliani, who has been ferverishly pushing this snake oil on Fox, invested $2m in Novartis in February.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thailazer View Post
    Can you copy and post the text? All I get is a big subsribe now banner.
    One of the most bizarre and disturbing aspects of President Trump’s nightly press briefings on the coronavirus pandemic is when he turns into a drug salesman. Like a cable TV pitchman hawking “male enhancement” pills, Trump regularly extols the virtues of taking hydroxychloroquine, a drug used to treat malaria and lupus, as a potential “game changer” that just might cure covid-19.
    On Saturday, he even said: “I think people should — if it were me — in fact, I might do it anyway. I may take it. Okay? I may take it.” I’m not only the president of the Hair Club for Men, I’m also a client.


    But the evidence that hydroxychloroquine could actually be an effective treatment is, at this point, extremely thin. Might it be some kind of aid in treating the disease, for some patients? Yes, it’s possible. But Trump’s enthusiasm for it is so out of proportion, and so relentless, that one has to ask: What the heck is going on here?


    Some people are inclined to believe that Trump must have a financial motive, and the New York Times did report that he owns some stock in Sanofi, a company that makes the name-brand version of the drug. But I doubt that’s what’s at work. Instead, I think there are two reasons Trump is working so hard to convince everyone that hydroxychloroquine is a miracle cure, neither of which are about Trump’s own bank account.


    The first is that Trump is listening to all the wrong people. We know that he finds those with advanced degrees extremely intimidating, activating his contempt and envy for experts. So when all the doctors and public health experts and epidemiologists tell him that while we can look into the potential of hydroxychloroquine, there’s no reason to think it’s going to be transformative, it makes him more, not less, convinced that it must be spectacular.




    Trump compensates for his own insecurity by working to convince himself and everyone else that the experts don’t know what they’re talking about, and he knows more than them about everything. As he said in an appearance at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, “Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability.” The scientists standing with him neither burst out in laughter nor began weeping uncontrollably, a tribute to their self-control.


    So who is he listening to? Here’s an excerpt from a recent New York Times article:
    Mr. Trump first expressed interest in hydroxychloroquine a few weeks ago, telling associates that Mr. [Larry] Ellison, a billionaire and a founder of Oracle, had discussed it with him. At the time, Dr. Mehmet Oz, the host of television’s “The Doctor Oz Show,” was in touch with Mr. Trump’s advisers about expediting approval to use the drug for the coronavirus.
    Mr. [Rudolph] Giuliani has urged Mr. Trump to embrace the drug, based in part on the advice of Dr. Vladimir Zelenko, a self-described simple country doctor who has become a hit on conservative media after administering a cocktail of hydroxychloroquine, the antibiotic azithromycin and zinc sulfate.
    So: Trump is getting his medical advice from CEOs, a TV doctor who has been assailed for promoting “quack treatments,” and Giuliani. One of Giuliani’s main sources of information on this topic is a guy who runs a company providing medical supplies to cruise ships and who was once sentenced to a year in jail for extorting Steven Seagal.
    Supplementing this medical dream team, Fox News and other conservative media have been relentlessly hyping hydroxychloroquine, both on the air and in person. As The Post reports:
    Fox host Laura Ingraham and two doctors who are regular on-air guests in what she dubs her ‘medicine cabinet’ visited the White House last Friday for a private meeting with Trump to talk up the drug.
    This creates a feedback loop with Trump’s brain: He talks about it so Fox talks about it, and he watches them talk about it and becomes more convinced that he’s right about it.


    But that’s only a partial explanation for Trump’s enthusiasm for hydroxychloroquine. The most important factor is that he’s desperate, he wants to come out of this a hero and it’s the only drug he’s heard of that might give him the opportunity.


    The election is seven months away. We’re facing a public health crisis that could kill hundreds of thousands of Americans, and the economy has been put into a medically induced coma. Even if our social distancing measures are successful and we can restart somewhat normal life in a couple of months, it may take years for the economy to fully recover.
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    And even before the pandemic, Trump’s chances at reelection were probably 50-50, given his historic unpopularity and the steady demographic shifts that have made the country even younger and more diverse than it was four years ago when he squeaked out an electoral college victory despite getting 3 million fewer votes than his opponent.


    Looking across that landscape, Trump needs a miracle if he’s going to get reelected, and he knows it. Or more precisely, a miracle cure.


    If Trump can claim that he personally defeated covid-19, then he might just win. If hydroxychloroquine somehow turns out to be an effective treatment, he can point to all the time he spent promoting it while others were skeptical and say, “I did it, America. I saved all your lives, because I’m a genius and the so-called experts are idiots.”


    That is the outcome Trump is hoping for. Is it spectacularly unlikely? Of course. But at this point it may be his only hope of reelection.

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    That article only reaffirms that the Donald, is the wolds greatest snake oil salesman.

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    it's hardly consequential, he is doing his show, nobody cares, only anti-Trump hysterical idiots and his retarded fans are listening to what he is saying

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    Trump's self-interest is at odds with safe coronavirus policy

    The deadly rampage of coronavirus across the United States has pitted President Donald Trump’s self-interest in maximizing his chances of winning a second term against the safety of the American public.

    When Trump leaves office, the protection that prevents a president from being criminally indicted will be gone. Even before his impeachment, legal experts
    found ample support for the belief that Trump would be indicted upon departing the White House. The Manhattan U.S. Attorney’s Office has already essentially named Trump as an unindicted co-conspirator in a campaign finance fraud scheme that saw his personal attorney, Michael Cohen, sentenced to three years in prison.

    This means Trump is almost certainly working overtime, figuring out how he can avoid indictment after leaving office.

    The statute of limitations for most crimes is five years. Though there is a tolling argument that could be made, the better bet is that another term in office would run out the clock on many of Trump’s alleged crimes, including the New York Cohen case in which prosecutors have alleged Trump to be
    both instigator and beneficiary.

    President Barack Obama handed Trump a growing economy, and its continued upward trajectory — as well as the ongoing devotion of his base — has been largely responsible for Trump’s white-knuckled grip on a presidency that might otherwise have fallen to Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation and impeachment.

    Medical experts, including the National Institute of Health’s Dr. Anthony Fauci, have insisted that shelter-in-place is the best way to “flatten the curve” of the coronavirus’s exponential killing spree. While home isolation dramatically reduces the transmission of COVID-19, its economic cost is devastating. Sounding the recession alarm, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce has said the coronavirus has led the economy into “uncharted territory.”

    If the economy stays below sea level, there will likely be a return to the Bush-era recession — or worse.

    There is a slice of voters who supported Trump in 2016 who could be convinced to vote for a Democrat if the economy continues to falter. This has not been lost on the president. Fearing a free-fall, Trump began laying the groundwork to end home sheltering. Last month, he tweeted — in all caps — “WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF.” And two weeks ago, he told Fox News he wanted the economy back in gear and churches “packed” by Easter, April 12.

    Sending people back to work is the best way to jumpstart the economy; it’s also the best way to spread the coronavirus.

    And so there is an inherent conflict between Trump doing all he can to protect American lives by supporting continued shelter-in-place orders, and doing all he can to rev the economy as a way of supporting his re-election campaign — and the immunity from indictment that comes with an extended residency in the White House.

    Public pushback from medical experts and governors made Trump reconsider his push to “open the country up.” Photos of makeshift morgues, videos of bodies being loaded into trucks, and predictions of 2.2 million deaths if home sheltering is not continued, helped convince Trump to extend social distancing measures until April 30.

    While the immediate danger of Trump’s wish for “packed” public events has passed, it is a mistake to think he finally respects the health risk posed by this virus and is committed to doing all he can to mitigate it. It should not be long before Trump redirects his effort to resume the course he previously charted: people back to work and a growing economy, despite the human toll.

    With any other president, we could default to the belief that he has the country’s best interests at heart. But if a Trump presidency has taught us anything, it is that Donald Trump’s first allegiance is — and always will be — to himself. Instead of using this existential crisis to bring people together, Trump has tried to take down anyone who criticizes his botched response to the pandemic, while simultaneously heaping undeserved praise on himself.

    Trump absolved his failure to supply hospitals with adequate medical supplies by repeatedly implying that exhausted healthcare workers were stealing surgical masks (and apparently selling them on the black market).

    And always looking to leverage a quid pro quo — in deed if not in word — Trump suggested that governors should withhold any criticism and instead be publicly “appreciative” in order to get life-saving federal medical supplies for their hospitalized citizens.

    During his almost four years in office, Trump has proved to be a divining rod that can reliably find and effectuate the worst possible response to nearly any situation. If the past is any predictor of the future, we should brace ourselves for carnage.

    https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...navirus-policy

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    As in the northern countries - where always the winter has asked the people: what did you done in the summer? - in any country (however exceptional and rich can be) the question will linger: what did you done for your health precaution?

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    it's amazing how Trump administration is much more engaged than GW Bush and Obama combined, and yet he is being shat on just because he likes to entertain people in his press conf

    GW Bush was very secretive, and look what damages he created by being "absent" on the job. Obama was too ambitious and accomplished nothing at the end.

    Trump is doing far better IMO, even though he is a bit controversial in his methods

    and you snowflakes come crying like little bitches, where were you in 2003 and 2011 when political abuses were really rampant in the WH

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Trump is doing far better IMO
    How's that wall going that Mexico is going to pay for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    How's that wall going that Mexico is going to pay for?
    it was a toy project, did it happen? no, so what are you complaining about, snowflake

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    How's that wall going
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    And how much has Mexico paid to date...?


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    Total shit post. Show the source of that graphic. A 2,000-mile boarder and the longest project is 94 miles (151.28 km) and not even fully complete.


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    a complete load of shit.

    it's barely 5%.

    the border is 1,950 miles long.

    as of january, trump has only constructed 100 miles after three years in office.




    Trump administration announces completion of 100 miles of border wall construction - ABC News

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    who cares about the wall, it's a political gadget for libtards to hyperventilate so they don't address the real issues

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    Fucking hell, baldy orange cunto really is scrabbling for scapegoats if he's going after VOA!



    On Thursday, the Donald Trump administration lashed out at the U.S Congress-funded broadcaster Voice of America (VoA), blasting it as "Chinese propaganda" for covering the lifting of the lockdown in Wuhan. The move is confusing, because the organization is essentially dedicated to promoting a pro-American view of the world and supporting the nation's foreign policy, as its name and portfolio obviously suggests. Yet for the White House, a scathing critic of the U.S mainstream media, this doesn't appear to be good enough and it blasted the 200-million-U.S.-dollar annual budget spent on the organization. The organization defended itself by saying it believes in showing "both sides of the story."

    The fact that the administration should single out a public broadcaster like VoA and accuse it of pro-China bias is a damning indignation as to how far this administration has lost its mind on Beijing, but most especially with the COVID-19 crisis brewing at home when he is looking to play a given blame game. Whilst attacking a given news outlet is a well-worn Trump populist tactic, the pathogen has set the administration in doubling down on an all-embracing vilification of Beijing in order to distract from its own woes. This specific attack was rooted from the fact that it shows Wuhan returning to normal, a fact which contrasts sharply to the chaos in America and questions the claim that China failed to handle the virus well and thus exposes the president's fragile ground.

    Trump's attacks on the mainstream media are a long established trait of his presidency. He enjoys describing outlets that do not suit his vision as "fake news" and lashing out against them on Twitter, it is a populist talking point which serves to deflect from criticism of himself. Voice of America, however, is in uncharted territory, simply because this is an outlet that is founded by the U.S government in order to amplify a pro-American view of the world. In this case, it is truly bizarre that this outlet of all things, would be accused of being "pro-China" in its disposition.

    But this outburst is more a statement of how things are in the U.S. The outlet is being accused because it showed a scene in Wuhan of the lockdown lifting. For the Trump administration, this alone represents a serious challenge to the narrative because it reflects the obvious reality that China has overcome the virus quickly and successfully, in contrast to the ambition by the administration to portray Beijing's response as disastrous and a cover-up which downplayed the death toll. As a result, VoA's reporting unintentionally stands in significant contrast to a disastrous situation in the United States which now extends to over a half a million cases and 20,000 deaths.

    This signifies China handled it better, and therefore Trump is not happy as this scenario exposes his own political weakness and negligence which has created the situation in the U.S.


    Given this, it is not a surprise that Trump sees an opportunity in not only deflecting further from the American situation but also weaponizing the 200 million U.S. dollars in taxpayers' money being used to fund the broadcaster to whip up public anger against it and thus bolster populist support in the bid for his re-election. As has been the case before, the president sees an opportunity in positioning himself as representing ordinary American people against Washington elites and of course "China" by calling out those who are being "unpatriotic" to his cause. In turn, he can then claim he is forcing these broadcasters to do a better job for the money that is invested in them, by making them more "anti-China."


    Thus, as a whole, Trump's criticism of VoA is bizarre and deranged, but it is also a projection of his own insecurity on handling the outbreak. The president's strategy to overcome criticism for his COVID-19 response is essentially rooted in offloading blame to Beijing, but for that to work the prevailing narrative that China's own response was botched has to go unquestioned. Thus, for a taxpayer-funded outlet such as VoA to inadvertently challenge that has added to the president's own fury and thus he has unfairly criticized it as being pro-China only for showing that Wuhan has reopened. This is concerning as it reveals the administration is unhinged and anxious, and the worse the situation becomes in America and the longer it lasts, ultimately the more vicious the blame game is going to become, even to the point that ultra-partisan organizations in favor of America end up accused.
    The Voice of America attacks reveal Trump's desperation to deflect - CGTN

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    US's global reputation hits rock-bottom over Trump's coronavirus response

    Donald Trump’s response to the coronavirus pandemic, which he once dismissed as a hoax, has been fiercely criticised at home as woefully inadequate to the point of irresponsibility.Yet also thanks largely to Trump, a parallel disaster is unfolding across the world: the ruination of America’s reputation as a safe, trustworthy, competent international leader and partner.Call it the Trump double-whammy. Diplomatically speaking, the US is on life support.“The Trump administration’s self-centred, haphazard, and tone-deaf response [to Covid-19] will end up costing Americans trillions of dollars and thousands of otherwise preventable deaths,” wrote Stephen Walt, professor of international relations at Harvard.“But that’s not the only damage the United States will suffer. Far from ‘making America great again’, this epic policy failure will further tarnish [its] reputation as a country that knows how to do things effectively.”This adverse shift could be permanent, Walt warned. Since taking office in 2017, Trump has insulted America’s friends, undermined multilateral alliances and chosen confrontation over cooperation. Sanctions, embargoes and boycotts aimed at China, Iran and Europe have been globally divisive.For the most part, oft-maligned foreign leaders such as Germany’s Angela Merkel have listened politely, turning the other cheek in the interests of preserving the broader relationship.But Trump’s ineptitude and dishonesty in handling the pandemic, which has left foreign observers as well as Americans gasping in disbelief, is proving a bridge too far.Erratic behaviour, tolerated in the past, is now seen as downright dangerous. It’s long been plain, at least to many in Europe, that Trump could not be trusted. Now he is seen as a threat. It is not just about failed leadership. It’s about openly hostile, reckless actions.The furious reaction in Germany after 200,000 protective masks destined for Berlin mysteriously went missing in Thailand and were allegedly redirected to the US is a case in point. There is no solid proof Trump approved the heist. But it’s the sort of thing he would do – or so people believe.“We consider this to be an act of modern piracy. This is no way to treat transatlantic partners. Even in times of global crisis, we shouldn’t resort to the tactics of the wild west,” said Andreas Geisel, a leading Berlin politician. Significantly, Merkel has refused to give Trump the benefit of the doubt.Europeans were already outraged by Trump’s reported efforts to acquire monopoly rights to a coronavirus vaccine under development in Germany. This latest example of nationalistic self-interest compounded anger across the EU over Trump’s travel ban, imposed last month without consultation or scientific justification.US reputational damage is not confined to Europe. There was dismay among the G7 countries that a joint statement on tackling the pandemic could not be agreed because Trump insisted on calling it the “Wuhan virus” – his crude way of pinning sole blame on China.International action has also been hampered at the UN security council by US objections over terminology.Trump has ignored impassioned calls to create a Covid-19 global taskforce or coalition. He appears oblivious to the catastrophe bearing down on millions of people in the developing world.“Trump’s battle against multilateralism has made it so that even formats like the G7 are no longer working,” commented Christoph Schult in Der Spiegel. “It appears the coronavirus is destroying the last vestiges of a world order.”Trump’s surreal televised Covid-19 briefings are further undermining respect for US leadership. Trump regularly propagates false or misleading information, bets on hunches, argues with reporters and contradicts scientific and medical experts.While publicly rejecting foreign help, Trump has privately asked European and Asian allies for aid – even those, such as South Korea, that he previously berated. And he continues to smear the World Health Organization in a transparent quest for scapegoats.To a watching world, the absence of a fair, affordable US healthcare system, the cut-throat contest between American states for scarce medical supplies, the disproportionate death toll among ethnic minorities, chaotic social distancing rules, and a lack of centralised coordination are reminiscent of a poor, developing country, not the most powerful, influential nation on earth.That’s a title the US appears on course to lose – a fall from grace that may prove irreversible. The domestic debacle unleashed by the pandemic, and global perceptions of American selfishness and incompetence, could change everything. According to Walt, Trump has presided over “a failure of character unparalleled in US history”.Do Americans realise how far their country’s moral as well as financial stock has fallen? Perhaps at this time of extreme stress, it seems not to matter. But it will matter later on – for them and for the future international balance of power.Heiko Maas, Germany’s foreign minister, said he hoped the crisis would force a fundamental US rethink about “whether the ‘America first’ model really works”. The Trump administration’s response had been too slow, he said. “Hollowing out international connections comes at a high price,” Maas warned.Lasting resentment over how the US went missing in action in the coronavirus wars of 2020 may change the way the world works.
    US's global reputation hits rock-bottom over Trump's coronavirus response | US news | The Guardian
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    Donald J Trump’s EPITAPH

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    Quote Originally Posted by peaches View Post
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    Donald J Trump’s EPITAPH
    Or an abbreviation to fit on his tombstone.

    The snake oil salesman, fucked up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    US's global reputation hits rock-bottom over Trump's coronavirus response
    An advice:
    When copying a text that was furnished with paragraphs, the paragraphs in the pasted text should be again separated as well. Otherwise, I doubt that somebody could have read it in one go...

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    Looks like Trump is running the FED these days....Printing money and having fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peaches View Post
    Or an abbreviation to fit on his tombstone.

    The snake oil salesman, fucked up.
    no he didn't, at least he is entertaining us in the press conf

    imagine Biden or Hillary in this situation, we would be bored to death with their pointless smart ass sound bites before the Coronavirus got us
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