President Donald Trump

**Dragonfly** · 06-04-2020, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by peaches

This horror show in the US of A is building up to a crescendo, and the world’s
greatest snake oil salesman keeps gaslighting anyone dumb enough to believe
his bull shit.

My thoughts are with the American people, and hope it doesn’t turn out as bad
as all the numbers suggest at the moment.

Trump is doing a great job, couldn't have done it better, but that won't stop his haters from hating him, au contraire

that said, this disaster will probably cost him his re-election if that curfew is too long,

this is same all over Europe, none of these governments will survive the next election, and the alternatives will be far right movements election all over the EU, basically a repeat of 1933

the best option is to follow the Swedish model of containment, not the Italian model, that seems to fail completely

**harrybarracuda** · 06-04-2020, 04:40 PM

**AntRobertson** · 06-04-2020, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Trump is doing a great job, couldn't have done it better,

That really only works if you consider doing nothing and then spreading lies and false information as 'a great job'.

In which case then yes, bigly, the best.

**Dragonfly** · 06-04-2020, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

That really only works if you consider doing nothing and then spreading lies and false information as 'a great job'.

In which case then yes, bigly, the best.

stop crying, our wonder boy, Macron, followed the exact same path

**thailazer** · 06-04-2020, 08:26 PM

Yep. I watched Drumpster's "briefing" yestereday and he rambled on for what must have been 10 minutes on the anti-malaria pills, stating numerous times that they have 29 MILL-ION pills on hand. He said he felt good about it but that "he is no doctor". The whole briefing was incredible. It is obvious that he lives in his own delusion, and does not have even a remote incentive to look outside of his world.

Originally Posted by Cujo

What an assclown this guy is...

Trump tells Americans to take unproven malaria drug to prevent Covid-19 | World news | The Guardian

What a fucking plank.

'I'm not going to do it': Trump rejects his own administration's advice on masks | World news | The Guardian

**RPETER65** · 06-04-2020, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by panama hat

I agree . . . repeater asked a few days ago how life has changed and how Americans are suffering under Trump - this whole debacle is a good example

No,I asked specifically how life has changed for the friends you mentioned.

**RPETER65** · 06-04-2020, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Wouldn’t a comparison based on cases per population show the real picture?

**Klondyke** · 06-04-2020, 10:57 PM

Damn Rumpo (and Putin either)...

**harrybarracuda** · 06-04-2020, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Wouldn’t a comparison based on cases per population show the real picture?

Of course it would.

As I posted yesterday, you are now getting more cases per day (Pop: 327m) than the whole of Europe put together (Pop: 512m).

Did you do basic maths at school?

**RPETER65** · 07-04-2020, 03:30 AM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Of course it would.

As I posted yesterday, you are now getting more cases per day (Pop: 327m) than the whole of Europe put together (Pop: 512m).

Did you do basic maths at school?

Of course I did basic math in school but I didn’t read your post yesterday.

**RPETER65** · 07-04-2020, 03:33 AM

Originally Posted by panama hat

. . . and they are American. Asked and answered.

So all Americans are the same as your friends? Strange logic ,your friends are American so all Americans are the same as your fiends.

**RPETER65** · 07-04-2020, 05:19 AM

Originally Posted by panama hat

Nope, that would be your logic. My American friends are all American, ergo sum . . . you figure it out.

Not so,that is your logic made clear by your post.

**peaches** · 07-04-2020, 05:44 AM

Just watched some of the snake oil salesman’s Coronavirus briefing.

Reckon he kissed the Blarney Stone a thousand times a day in one
of his previous lives.

**baldrick** · 07-04-2020, 06:09 AM

it is cutting irony that he is at the helm of the seppo version of capitalism imploding

though the seppos suing china because of the virus could be the trigger of a war

**beachbound** · 07-04-2020, 06:36 AM

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Trump is doing a great job, couldn't have done it better

Yep, he’s done a bang-up job.

Dec 18 - House Impeaches Trump
Dec 31 - China alerted WHO to several cases of unusual pneumonia in Wuhan, a port city of 11 million people in the central Hubei province. The virus was unknown.
Jan 8 - First CDC warning on Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19)
Jan 9 - Trump campaign rally
Jan 14 - Trump campaign rally
Jan 16 - House sends impeachment articles to Senate
Jan 18 - Trump golfs
Jan 19 - Trump golfs
Jan 20 - first case of COVID-19 in the US, Washington State.
Jan 22 - “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”
Jan 28 - Trump campaign rally
Jan 30 - Trump campaign rally
Feb 1 - Trump golfs
Feb 2 - “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China."
Feb 5 - Senate votes to acquit. Then takes a five-day weekend.
Feb 10 - Trump campaign rally
Feb 12 - Dow Jones closes at an all time high of 29,551.42
Feb 15 - Trump golfs
Feb 19 - Trump campaign rally
Feb 20 - Trump campaign rally
Feb 24 - Trump administration ships tons of Personal Protection Equipment to China.
Feb 24 - “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”
Feb 25 - “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”
Feb 25 - “I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”
Feb 26 - “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”
Feb 26 - “We're going very substantially down, not up.” Also "This is a flu. This is like a flu"; "Now, you treat this like a flu"; "It's a little like the regular flu that we have flu shots for. And we'll essentially have a flu shot for this in a fairly quick manner."
Feb 27 - “One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
Feb 28 - “We're ordering a lot of supplies. We're ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn't be ordering unless it was something like this. But we're ordering a lot of different elements of medical.”
Feb 28 - Trump campaign rally
Feb 29 - First COVID-19 death in US
Mar 2 - “You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?”
Mar 2 - “A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they’re happening very rapidly.”
Mar 4 - “If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better.”
Mar 5 - “I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work.”
Mar 5 - “The United States… has, as of now, only 129 cases… and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!”
Mar 6 - “I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down… a tremendous job at keeping it down.”
Mar 6 - “Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful…. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.”
Mar 6 - “I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it… Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”
Mar 6 - “I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault.”
Mar 7 - Trump golfs
Mar 8 - Trump golfs
Mar 8 - “We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus.”
Mar 9 - “This blindsided the world.”
Mar 13 - [Declared state of emergency]
Mar 14 - Young Asian-American family of 4 stabbed in TX Sam's Club by man who thinks they're responsible for COVID.
Mar 15 - 3,613 COVID-19 cases, 69 deaths
Mar 17 - “This is a pandemic,” Mr. Trump told reporters. “I felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic.”
Mar 18 - "It’s not racist at all. No. Not at all. It comes from China. That’s why. It comes from China. I want to be accurate."
Mar 23 - Dow Jones closes at 18,591.93
Mar 25 - 3.3 million Americans file for unemployment.
Mar 30 - Dow Jones closes at 21,917.16
Apr 2 - 6.6 million Americans file for unemployment.
Apr 6- 300,000 COVID-19 cases, 10,000+ deaths.
Tests still not available for most people."

**tomcat** · 07-04-2020, 07:29 AM

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**harrybarracuda** · 07-04-2020, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Of course I did basic math in school but I didn’t read your post yesterday.

So now do you understand why baldy orange cunto has fucked your country by denying this was an issue for so long?

**deeks** · 07-04-2020, 10:57 PM

Just wanted to remind everyone.

**deeks** · 07-04-2020, 11:21 PM

Chai-NAH.

**baldrick** · 08-04-2020, 05:05 AM

drumpf in one easy chart

**beachbound** · 08-04-2020, 05:40 AM

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Trump is doing a great job, couldn't have done it better

Still waiting for you to justify this moronic quote.

Trump Adviser Peter Navarro Warned of Coronavirus Pandemic in January - The New York Times

A top White House adviser starkly warned Trump administration officials in late January that the coronavirus crisis could cost the United States trillions of dollars and put millions of Americans at risk of illness or death.

The warning, written in a memo by Peter Navarro, President Trump’s trade adviser, is the highest-level alert known to have circulated inside the West Wing.

Donald Trump on March 6th: “This was an unforeseen problem, that came out of nowhere.”

That is doing a great job?

The man literally has blood on his hands because of his ineptitude.

**tomcat** · 08-04-2020, 08:39 AM

This pandemic is Trump’s Vietnam. He has earned his bone spurs.
By Dana Milbank (WaPo)
Columnist
April 8, 2020 at 6:12 a.m. GMT+7

President Bonespurs finally gets to fight a war. Unfortunately for us, he’s re-fighting the Vietnam War.

In his ambivalent battle against the pandemic, President Trump has managed to repeat, in just a few months, the same mistakes that took three administrations more than a decade to make in Vietnam: ignoring experts’ warnings, running a confused war effort, spreading disinformation, silencing truth-tellers and squandering the prestige of the most powerful nation on Earth.

Five deferments, including one for bone spurs, kept Trump from fighting in the real thing. He later described his dating life as “the equivalent of a soldier going over to Vietnam” and avoiding STDs “my personal Vietnam. I feel like a great and very brave soldier.” Because he attended a military-themed boarding school, he “always felt that I was in the military.”

Now, with the novel coronavirus spreading, Trump embraces a new military role: “A number of people have said it, and I feel it, actually. I’m a wartime president.”

Some call the pandemic Trump’s Katrina or Trump’s Iraq War. But in terms of American lives that will be lost, this is far greater than both. This may be the most consequential failure of government since Vietnam, in which 58,000 Americans and countless Vietnamese died.

During the Vietnam War, as the New Yorker’s Susan Glasser pointed out, the U.S. military’s daily briefings from Saigon, full of false claims about progress, were dubbed the Five O’Clock Follies. Trump seems unaware of this ignominy when he holds daily briefings full of false claims and dubious medical advice — typically scheduled for 5 p.m.

Vietnam-era leaders from President Lyndon Johnson down spoke falsely of the “steady” and “dramatic” war progress, and, most famously, as my colleague Karen Tumulty noted, of the “light at the end of the tunnel.” Trump, whose rosy predictions about vaccines and antidotes are routinely contradicted by his experts, has recently announced, repeatedly, “light at the end of the tunnel.”

The similarities are substantive, too. In the Vietnam era, civilian leaders ignored the military and intelligence warnings that the war would end in stalemate or worse. Trump in January and February failed to take action on intelligence showing the threat posed to the United States by the pandemic. Likewise, he didn’t heed alarms sounded by White House official Peter Navarro, who pleaded in January and February for a massive response, and accurately warned that the virus could put millions of lives in jeopardy and cost trillions of dollars.

Johnson and Defense Secretary Robert McNamara refused to authorize the troops military leaders said they needed. Trump has similarly resisted governors’ pleas for ventilators. “The president says it’s a war,” New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo complained. “Well, then, act like it’s a war!”

The Nixon administration moved forcefully to punish and to discredit those who revealed the grim truth about the war, even trying to steal psychiatric records of Pentagon Papers leaker Daniel Ellsberg. Trump has sidelined inspectors general for the Pentagon and the CIA, and his acting Navy secretary (who has since been forced out) dismissed as “too naive or too stupid” the commander of an aircraft carrier. The commander’s offense: revealing dire conditions aboard his ship, where more than 170 have the virus.

H.R. McMaster, before becoming one of the four people to serve (so far) as Trump’s national security adviser, argued that Johnson’s mistake was to view Vietnam as a danger to his “domestic, political goals.” Johnson resisted calls to use overwhelming force in favor of “gradualism” because he didn’t want antiwar opposition to ruin his domestic agenda.

Trump, similarly, has chafed at attempts to mitigate the virus, saying “the cure is worse than the problem,” and for a time attempting to “reopen” the economy by Easter. He still resists a national stay-at-home policy because of political and economic consequences, giving sanctuary to the virus. The Georgia governor forces beaches to reopen against the wishes of local leaders; the Florida governor lets megachurches have their mega-gatherings.

Anthony Fauci, the federal government’s top epidemiologist, says “I just don’t understand” the failure to have a nationwide directive. But this is war, and, as Trump famously said, he knows more “than the generals.” We pay for his bumbling with lives lost unnecessarily.

This war will be won. But the most enduring consequence of Vietnam — a loss of national prestige — has been repeated. While other nations display competence, the United States, with the highest caseload in the world, asks for help from other countries. We receive relief supplies from Russia. The superpower that once led the world, the richest nation on Earth with the most vaunted medical expertise, has been brought to its knees by poor leadership.

For this, Trump has earned his bone spurs.

**Klondyke** · 08-04-2020, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by tomcat

mistakes that took three administrations more than a decade to make in Vietnam: ignoring experts’ warnings, running a confused war effort, spreading disinformation, silencing truth-tellers and squandering the prestige of the most powerful nation on Earth.

Yes, yes, there is always something what is to be blamed or somebody (what for we have the POTUSes carefully selected and elected?).

Otherwise, everything would fare with the best results...

**Dragonfly** · 08-04-2020, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by beachbound

Still waiting for you to justify this moronic quote.

Trump Adviser Peter Navarro Warned of Coronavirus Pandemic in January - The New York Times

A top White House adviser starkly warned Trump administration officials in late January that the coronavirus crisis could cost the United States trillions of dollars and put millions of Americans at risk of illness or death.

The warning, written in a memo by Peter Navarro, President Trump’s trade adviser, is the highest-level alert known to have circulated inside the West Wing.

Donald Trump on March 6th: “This was an unforeseen problem, that came out of nowhere.”

That is doing a great job?

The man literally has blood on his hands because of his ineptitude.

you are hyperventilating, Trump is not responsible for COVID-19, nothing he could have done would have changed anything, and the virus don't listen to Trump on TV for guidance

actually the virus doesn't even listen to any world leaders, and doesn't care about confinement

Trump original idea was the best, he simply caved in to his scared politics advisors, the best course was to act like nothing is happening, aka the Swedish model.

**Cujo** · 08-04-2020, 11:57 PM

And it's not because he owns stock in a company that makes it as you may have thought.
A good read and take on Trump.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...xychloroquine/

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