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    ...^ and ^^: tRump is prone to spewing nonsense out of both sides of his mouth: no need to point out the obvious...

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Do you think baldy orange cunto knows that?
    Very good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...^ and ^^: tRump is prone to spewing nonsense out of both sides of his mouth: no need to point out the obvious...
    Wondering what everything the POTUS has to manage, more than any Superman: Well, GWB had it quite easy, he was advised every night from the Lord on Heaven - and he had held press meetings only once a month...

    Not the poor Donald, no Lord will help him over night, his wife obviously also not (no fortune teller as organized once by Nancy R.), so he has to make all his decisions all by himself...

    Wondering, whether there are any big guys for the help?

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    Keep guzzling that snake oil .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Wondering what everything the POTUS has to manage, more than any Superman: Well, GWB had it quite easy, he was advised every night from the Lord on Heaven - and he had held press meetings only once a month...

    Not the poor Donald, no Lord will help him over night, his wife obviously also not (no fortune teller as organized once by Nancy R.), so he has to make all his decisions all by himself...

    Wondering, whether there are any big guys for the help?
    Nonsense. He's had lots of well qualified smart people to advise him. What does he do? Fires them as soon as they tell him something he doesn't want to hear or that doesn't gell with something he thinks he 'knows'.
    He wants/needs to be surround by sycophantic toadies and yes men to feed his ego.
    Fauci will be next unfortunately. He probably won't do it for a while because he's smart enough to know how it'll look, but Faucis toast in my opinion.
    “If we stop testing right now we’d have very few cases, if any.” Donald J Trump.

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    President Donald Trump-15_66-jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    He's had lots of well qualified smart people to advise him.
    And yet, he prepare wars, with China, with Iran, with Maduro, with Corona, with Wall, with EU, with Russia, with Huawei, you name it, (exceptionally peace with NK), and many more...

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    A good point from the Guardian (that's if there were beds available).

    Obamacare's not looking so fucking stupid now eh?


    The tragic effects of our battle with the novel coronavirus are seemingly endless. But arguably the most mind-blowing is this: the very pandemic that threatens to infect and kill millions is simultaneously causing many to also lose their health coverage at their gravest time of need.


    Here’s how: the virus has caused a public health crisis so severe that people have been forced to stay home, causing businesses to shutter and lay off workers. And with roughly half of Americans getting their health insurance from their employer, these layoffs mean not only losing their income but also their medical coverage. In other words, just as our need for medical care skyrockets in the face of a global pandemic, fewer will have health insurance or be able to afford it. According to one recent report, the cost of treatment for Covid-19 can run around $35,000. As the patient in the report exclaimed: “I was pretty sticker-shocked. I personally don’t know anybody who has that kind of money.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/27/coronavirus-pandemic-americans-health-insurance

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    To lighten the mood.....

    There's a plane with 5 passengers on board: Donald Trump, Boris Johnson, Pope Francis, Angela Merkel, and a 10-year-old schoolboy. The plane is about to crash and there are only 4 parachutes. Trump says: "I need one. I’m the smartest man in the world and am needed to make America great again." He takes one and jumps. Johnson says, "I’m needed to sort out Britain." He takes one and jumps. The Pope says, "I need one as the world needs the Catholic Church." He takes one and jumps. Merkel says to the 10-year old boy: "You can have the last parachute. I've lived my life, yours is only just starting." The 10-year-old replies: "Don’t worry, there are 2 parachutes left. The smartest man in the world took my school bag.”'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    And yet, he prepare wars, with China, with Iran, with Maduro, with Corona, with Wall, with EU, with Russia, with Huawei, you name it, (exceptionally peace with NK), and many more...
    his whole education derives from watching movies and television and himself in the mirror

    he thinks it will all turn out ok because that's how the movies end

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    “I was pretty sticker-shocked."
    That's a new one to me.

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    I'd say this was unbelievable but...it's Fox News, where pretty much nothing yet everything is unbelievable.

    Watch how 'emotional' this pos gets in the clip on twitter. Emotional about the crushing effect of austerity measures enacted in the UK when he was advising the prime minister.

    It’s become a commonplace to note Trump’s lack of basic human empathy, his tendency to be unmoved by others’ loss. But that gap in his mindset matters now far beyond an inability to offer consolation to the bereaved: it is warping his approach to a lethal disease.


    “WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF,” he tweeted in caps lock at the start of the week, shortly after Steve Hilton, one-time adviser to David Cameron, had made that same argument on his Fox News show. (If you look up the word “chutzpah” in the dictionary, it now directs you to a clip of Hilton warning on that same broadcast that austerity policies in the UK caused an extra 130,000 deaths – failing to mention that he was at the right hand of the prime minister who imposed that austerity.)
    https://twitter.com/aljwhite/status/1241991593806217216

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    Sigh ...

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    Trump says he told Pence not to call governors who aren’t ‘appreciative’ of White House coronavirus efforts


    U.S. President Donald Trump speaks during a Coronavirus Task Force news conference in the briefing room of the White House in Washington, D.C., U.S., on Monday, March 23, 2020.
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    Key Points

    • President Donald Trump said Friday that he instructed Vice President Mike Pence not to reach out to governors who aren’t “appreciative” of his administration’s efforts to slow the spread of the coronavirus in their states.
    • The president mentioned Washington Gov. Jay Inslee and Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, both Democrats who have been critical of the White House’s actions to combat the deadly pandemic.
    • Trump said that Pence “calls all the governors. And I tell him, I’m a different type of person, and I say, ’Mike, don’t call the governor of Washington. you’re wasting your time with him.”


    “If they don’t treat you right, I don’t call,” Trump said of those state leaders.
    “I think they should be appreciative. Because you know what?
    When they’re not appreciative to me, they’re not appreciative to the Army Corps [of Engineers], they’re not appreciative to FEMA.
    It’s not right,” Trump told reporters at a daily press briefing at the White House.


    Coronavirus: Trump told Pence not to call Washington, Michigan governors
    Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    “If they don’t treat you right, I don’t call,” Trump said of those state leaders.
    ...because he's only the president of Republicans he likes...everyone else can suffer...

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    Trump's narcissism has taken a new twist. And now he has American blood on his hands

    the people of America. They do battle now with one of the greatest challenges in their history, led by a man who is not only among the worst ever occupants of the White House but whose character makes him the last person on the face of the Earth you would nominate to be in charge at this moment. On Thursday the US reached the top of the global league table for coronavirus infections, edging ahead of its closest rival for that honour, China. No law of nature dictated that outcome. Much of it is directly attributable to one dreadful fact: that Donald Trump is president of the United States.
    It’s become a commonplace to note Trump’s lack of basic human empathy, his tendency to be unmoved by others’ loss. But that gap in his mindset matters now far beyond an inability to offer consolation to the bereaved: it is warping his approach to a lethal disease.


    “WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF,” he tweeted in caps lock at the start of the week, shortly after Steve Hilton, one-time adviser to David Cameron, had made that same argument on his Fox News show. (If you look up the word “chutzpah” in the dictionary, it now directs you to a clip of Hilton warning on that same broadcast that austerity policies in the UK caused an extra 130,000 deaths – failing to mention that he was at the right hand of the prime minister who imposed that austerity.)

    Trump and his outriders contend that, while mass death is not ideal, it’s better than allowing the US economy to stall. Some, like Texas lieutenant governor Dan Patrick, are explicit, urging the elderly to risk their lives so that their grandchildren might enjoy the fruits of uninterrupted American capitalism. “If that’s the exchange, I’m all in,” Patrick said. He was taking his cue from Trump who, while not putting it quite as baldly, has been quite clear. If coronavirus is a stick-up artist asking America, “Your money or your life”, Trump’s response has been: “Take the lives of the old and the weak: I want the money.”

    An imbecile at the head of the US government would always be a problem. But this is a calamity
    Of course, no such choice is available. Even if Trump were to get his way, ditching social distancing and having the US open for business by Easter, the disease would not politely confine its appetite to the groups Trump has deemed dispensable. Instead the virus would run rampant, infecting an estimated half the population. Not that Trump would know or recognise that, thanks to a second character trait that, like the void where his sense of compassion should be, is so fatefully, and fatally, determining the US response to this pandemic: namely, his disregard for science.


    “This is just my hunch,” he said as he dismissed a projection of the likely Covid-19 death rate by the World Health Organization as “a false number”. On Thursday, he said “I have a feeling” that New York would need far fewer ventilators than the tens of thousands the state has requested. “You know, you go into major hospitals sometimes, they’ll have two ventilators. And now all of a sudden they’re saying can we order 30,000 ventilators?”

    The effect is to undermine whatever public health effort the professionals can mount, as they try to work around the man they serve. At its most visual, it’s the daily press briefing where Trump fails to observe the social distancing measures his administration is demanding of the American public, with himself standing at the centre of a cluster of speakers bunched together by the podium. Note the initial insistence that corona was nothing to worry about, that it was no more than flu, that it would soon disappear, like a “miracle”. All of that succeeded in lowering Americans’ guard.

    Since then, it’s been the daily grouching at the stay-at-home directives, the hint that they’ll be relaxed soon, the absurd promises that a vaccine is ”very close”. The impact is plain to see, in data that confirms that Americans break down on partisan lines even over the most basic matters of mortality. One in four Republicans still say they are “not concerned at all” about the virus – while only 5% of Democrats are similarly unbothered. Only 14% of Democrats trust Trump for information on the virus, compared with 90% of Republicans. Put simply, there is a body of Americans who do not take this threat as seriously as they should, and the blame for that lies with the president.

    Trump’s dishonesty matters here too. He was rightly derided in 2016 as a “snake-oil salesman”, and the cliche is so well-worn it’s easy to forget what it originally refers to: the 19th-century hawkers who sold bogus cures to the gullible. Recall that Trump rushed to tell people a pre-existing drug would cure Covid-19, leading to a shortage of a medication that was needed for other illnesses, and several deaths, as desperate people rushed to buy tablets that, for them, proved lethal.

    The US president always was capricious and vengeful, but now that character flaw is a matter of life and death. State governors are crying out for federal help, not for themselves but for the people they represent: the nurses and doctors who need protective equipment and testing kits, the patients who need ventilators. But instead of leaping to their aid, Trump tells the governors it’s their responsibility, even though they have a fraction of the procurement power of the US government – adding that if they want help, they’d better grovel. “It’s a two-way street,” Trump said this week. “They have to treat us well.” Even when lives are on the line, his ego with its paper-thin skin comes first.

    Americans are paying the price for his lack of foresight, his closure of a pandemic task force for no better reason than it was established by Barack Obama – he hates anything with his predecessor’s name on it – and his failure to heed the warnings of a pandemic preparedness exercise, codenamed Crimson Contagion, that identified glaring gaps as recently as last October. Yet still he repeats the line that nobody could have known what was coming. And they are paying the price for his weakness, as he demands steadfastness in a war against an “invisible enemy”, only to leave heavy hints that he’s ready to fold after a week, apparently deciding that 15 days is too long to stay at home.

    America is lucky it has a federal system that means not all power lies with the president, that at least some rests in the hands of responsible mayors and governors, the likes of New York’s Andrew Cuomo. The nation is lucky too that the House of Representatives is controlled by Democrats, who crafted a $2.2tn economic bill from what would otherwise have been a trough into which Trump’s corporate pals could sink their snouts.

    But these are small consolations for America and indeed for the world, which needed the leadership only a US president has the clout to provide. Instead, the world’s peoples now look at the US and comfort themselves with the small solace that they, at least, face only a lethal disease, and not the malignancy that is Donald Trump.
    Trump's narcissism has taken a new twist. And now he has American blood on his hands | Jonathan Freedland | Opinion | The Guardian

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    More Trump devotees are going to succumb to the Coronavirus than
    never Trumper’s.

    Why ?

    Cause, the world’s greatest snake oil salesman is feeding his flock
    poisonous information , simple as that.

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    Heather Cox Richardson's blog is a great one to follow to see what is going on behind the scenes in politics. From here posts yesterday, Trump is such a crook, and he is playing politics while people are dying. On that 2.2 Trillion dollar bill he just signed, (Excerpts from her article in quotes.)

    "Discussions hit a stalemate over a number of things, but primarily over the provision for a $500 billion fund to be used by Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin to shore up businesses (whose applications to that fund would be secret for six months) with little oversight. This was a nonstarter for Democrats, who pointed out the money could be funneled to Trump’s financial supporters, or even to Trump himself (it did not help that the president refused to pledge that he would not accept bailout money)."

    So.... The house added a provision to get oversight of that 500 Billion of "fluff" money.

    "Democrats got their primary concern taken care of in the Senate bill: it would have oversight of the $500 billion fund for businesses. An independent inspector general and an oversight board would oversee the dispersal of funds."

    But then,

    "When Trump signed it, he included a “signing statement.” These used to be quite innocuous statements in which a president would thank the people involved in writing the bill, or talk about how important a bill was. President George W. Bush began to use these statements to challenge the content of a bill without being forced to veto the entire thing, saying, for example, that he would not honor certain portions of it. And that’s what happened tonight. Trump issued a signing statement saying he would ignore the law’s provisions for an independent inspector general overseeing the disbursal of funds for corporate bailouts. His argument is that such a provision intrudes on the rights of the executive to block information from Congress. If this holds, it would erase the Democrats’ key victory in the negotiations over the bill."
    You Make Your Own Luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    That's a democracy . . . amazing
    No
    Just Corporate Facism

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    You couldn't imagine a more perfect storm: a sleazy, narcissistic huckster and con man in charge of a pandemic that is spiraling out of control in the USA. Get ready for it. No, not the virus. Trump and the Republican propaganda machine that will blame all of it on China, Dems, Nancy, Hillary, Obama, "deep state", etc. This is the same script that has been running for almost 4 years now, but this time it directly affects all Americans personally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elche View Post
    This is the same script that has been running for almost 4 years now, but this time it directly affects all Americans personally.
    "for almost 4 years now"??? (you can count up to 4 only?)

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    ^^^

    Ever heard of .

    ” The buck stops here “

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    imagine how chaotic, anxious and despondent it must be inside the white house these days.

    he knows he's not qualified to handle this crisis and his staff also knows he's not up to it......and they also know that in most cases they're the C or D team and that they're not qualified either.

    and there's no end it sight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    So share with us how many . . . without your usual deflection, attempt at being cryptic etc . . .

    Ach, c'mon...leave the poor guy with something!

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    Lengthy with lots of pics but this is an excellent read, particularly contrasting the US reaction to the South Korean reaction.


    The missing six weeks: how Trump failed the biggest test of his life

    The president was aware of the danger from the coronavirus – but a lack of leadership has created an emergency of epic proportions


    The missing six weeks: how Trump failed the biggest test of his life | US news | The Guardian

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