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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly
    Trump is a product of our time, somehow you don't accept that times have changed
    Yeah nah to that too.

    Facts still matter so...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly
    basically, earthers vs science
    ...that's really a rather comically absurd analogy.


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    your facts are no better than Trumptards facts, that's what you keep missing

    and nobody cares about facts anymore, all they care is opinions and leadership, and Trump certainly deliver on both

    can we say the same for the other bores?

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    Trumpanzees are as thick as shit. Stoopid fat pooves that pretend to be trumpanzees are even thicker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly
    and nobody cares about facts anymore
    Factually incorrect.

    Trumptards like you don't care about facts but that doesn't mean others don't.

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    Looks like the Democrats are giving the Trumpster another four years (if this is true):


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    ooks like the Democrats are giving the Trumpster another four years
    Don't underestimate Bernie. Feel the Bern it is real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Don't underestimate Bernie. Feel the Bern it is real.
    I agree, I think that Bernie would win against Trump.

    But, if George is right and the Dems are gonna put their Bloomberg/Clinton dreamteam as candidates instead of Bernie then I'd expect Trump to beat them comfortably.

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    Bloomberg/Hillary? that should win easily

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    I agree, I think that Bernie would win against Trump.

    But, if George is right and the Dems are gonna put their Bloomberg/Clinton dreamteam as candidates instead of Bernie then I'd expect Trump to beat them comfortably.
    Bernie or Pete would be the right guy, but they can't win by themselves

    Bloomberg could, but having Hillary on board would be suicide

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    But, if George is right and the Dems are gonna put their Bloomberg/Clinton dreamteam as candidates instead of Bernie then I'd expect Trump to beat them comfortably.
    There is no way they are going to let Hillary be the running mate.

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    I wonder when the Republicans are going to decide that being reelected really isn't as important as standing up for what's right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSFFan
    I wonder when the Republicans are going to decide that being reelected really isn't as important as standing up for what's right.
    Never. Too late for that they're all in and have nailed their colors to the mast: party over country.

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    Bernie way ahead in polls. Bloomberg way ahead in funding.

    Nevada debate will have every participant aiming sticks n stones at Bloomberg. Lot's of good stuff to pick at. Stop and frisk topping the list.

    This will further benefit Bernie by diverting attention from him. Bernie will emerge as the "winner" of the debate. Fair nuff but Bernie has a lot of explaining to do. Taxing only the rich to pay for his medicare fir all simply ain't going to cover the 72 bil price tag and his $15 min wage. Don't be fooled, his programs will economically effect us poor folk as well. We will all feel the bern.

    Aside from wanting to see specifics on exactly how his programs will be paid for, I would like to see his medical records. Not just his. All candidates.

    The Nevada debate will be interesting but don't expect Bloomberg to fold when over. He is banking on wins on super Tuesday. That will be his make or break. He can't lose Nevada. He isn't even on the ballot.

    Should Bernie and not Bloomberg emerge the Dem nominee, Trump will be a two termer.

    Bloomberg is the only candidate that can and will beat Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barty View Post
    There is no way they are going to let Hillary be the running mate.
    Precisely. She is damaged goods and there is no way they are going to risk it.

    Mind you, whoever it is, the GOP will be digging up the fucking dirt and throwing it incessantly so that some of it sticks.

    The difference is, Bloomberg has enough money to throw that shit back and a whole lot more.

    It will be a dirty election, the only question is whether it's two way or the stupid fucking "They go low we go high" shit that sadly doesn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    The difference is, Bloomberg has enough money to throw that shit back and a whole lot more.
    And this is why Trump and Faux News fear him. Bloomberg will take Trump apart.
    Richer, smarter and a veteren of the no holds barred New York politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    even Dems dislike her
    Thirty years of character assassination will do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSFFan View Post
    I wonder when the Republicans are going to decide that being reelected really isn't as important as standing up for what's right.
    When you make it one term only
    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Never. Too late for that they're all in and have nailed their colors to the mast: party over country.
    I vote for a party that has a "rotation princple".
    You can work for the party or have a seat in parlament for 8 years, and it is adios amigo.

    Go and have some fresh air with real people.

    Works

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    Quote Originally Posted by happynz View Post
    Thirty years of character assassination will do that.
    Exactly

    That woman is either the smartest person on the planet, and was able to outsmart everyone who went after her, doctor every piece of “evidence” they said they had against her,
    or she didn’t do 99% of the shit they accused her of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happynz View Post
    Thirty years of character assassination will do that.
    Maybe,or...Look at who the elite, the banks etc, want you to vote for, and then do your shopping elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elche View Post
    Diaper Don will be finished in November. He “won” at 48% in the polls in 2016. He has been stuck at around 40% for over 3 years now
    Isn't the 40% figure approval rating taken across the population ?

    He got 26 % of the electorate at the polls, so....

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    My my we certainly have an emboldened president. His pardons, some involving 8 felony convictions, show that corruption okay in Trump's book. He is not the chief law enforcement officer as he called himself, but the chief corruption enabler. How can anyone respect him or his actions?

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    TRUMP WILL LIFT ALL RUSSIA SANCTIONS AND 'BRING PUTIN TO THE WHITE HOUSE' IF RE-ELECTED, MAXINE WATERS PREDICTS

    California Rep. Maxine Waters has urged Americans to vote President Donald Trump out of office in November or risk four years of constitutional crisis and presidential overreach.

    Waters—a long-time critic of the president—told MSNBC Wednesday that Trump will be emboldened after his acquittal by the Senate and keen to build closer ties with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

    "We've got to make sure this man is not elected again," Waters told host Joy Reid. The congresswoman said Trump would look to pardon those convicted in special counsel Robert Mueller's probe into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election, and draw his administration closer to the Kremlin.

    "He will pardon [former campaign manager Paul] Manafort," Waters predicted. "He will lift all of the sanctions from Russia. He will be even more involved with the oligarchs of Russia, and he's going to bring Putin to the White House."

    "He's going to put Putin right in our face," Waters added. "He's going to say, 'Be damned the Congress of the United States.'"

    Trump has been criticized by both opponents and allies for his warm treatment of Putin. The president has even maligned U.S. intelligence agencies and Congress for suggesting Moscow meddled in the 2016 election.

    Putin has not yet visited the White House during Trump's tenure, though the pair have held joint press conferences during bilateral talks in Helsinki, Finland, and at the G20 meeting in Osaka, Japan.

    The Russian government has invited Trump to attend this year's May 9 military parade in Red Square commemorating the 75th anniversary of the end of World War II, though the White House has not yet said whether the president will go.

    Trump Will Lift All Russia Sanctions and 'Bring Putin to the White House' If Re-Elected, Maxine Waters Predicts

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    Donald Trump 'offered Julian Assange a pardon if he denied Russia link to hack'

    Donald Trump offered Julian Assange a pardon if he would say Russia was not involved in leaking Democratic party emails, a court in London has been told.


    The extraordinary claim was made at Westminster magistrates court before the opening next week of Assange’s legal battle to block attempts to extradite him to the US, where he faces charges for publishing hacked documents. The allegation was denied by the former Republican congressman named by the Assange legal team as a key witness.


    Assange’s lawyers alleged that during a visit to London in August 2017, congressman Dana Rohrabacher told the WikiLeaks founder that “on instructions from the president, he was offering a pardon or some other way out, if Mr Assange … said Russia had nothing to do with the DNC [Democratic National Committee] leaks.”


    A few hours later, however, Rohrabacher denied the claim, saying he had made the proposal on his own initiative, and that the White House had not endorsed it.


    “At no time did I talk to President Trump about Julian Assange,” the former congressman wrote on his personal blog. “Likewise, I was not directed by Trump or anyone else connected with him to meet with Julian Assange. I was on my own fact finding mission at personal expense to find out information I thought was important to our country.


    “At no time did I offer Julian Assange anything from the president because I had not spoken with the president about this issue at all. However, when speaking with Julian Assange, I told him that if he could provide me information and evidence about who actually gave him the DNC emails, I would then call on President Trump to pardon him,” Rohrabacher added.


    “At no time did I offer a deal made by the president, nor did I say I was representing the president.”
    White House spokeswoman Stephanie Grisham told reporters: “The president barely knows Dana Rohrabacher other than he’s an ex-congressman. He’s never spoken to him on this subject or almost any subject.”
    “It is a complete fabrication and a total lie,” Grisham said. “This is probably another never-ending hoax and total lie from the DNC.”


    Trump, however, invited Rohrabacher to the White House in April 2017 after seeing the then congressman on Fox TV defending the president.


    In September 2017, the White House confirmed that Rohrabacher had called the then chief of staff, John Kelly, to talk about a possible deal with Assange, but that Kelly had not passed on the message to Trump. Rohrabacher confirmed that version of events on his blog on Wednesday.


    “I told him that Julian Assange would provide information about the purloined DNC emails in exchange for a pardon. No one followed up with me including Gen Kelly and that was the last discussion I had on this subject with anyone representing Trump or in his Administration,” he wrote.
    “Even though I wasn’t successful in getting this message through to the President I still call on him to pardon Julian Assange, who is the true whistleblower of our time.”


    Assange appeared in court on Wednesday by videolink from Belmarsh prison, wearing dark tracksuit bottoms and a brown jumper over a white shirt.
    Before Rohrabacher’s denial, district judge Vanessa Baraitser, who is hearing the case at Westminster, said the claim of a deal was admissible as evidence.


    Until he was voted out of office in 2018, Rohrabacher was a consistent voice in Congress in defence of Vladimir Putin’s Russia, claiming to have been so close to the Russian leader that they had engaged in a drunken arm-wrestling match in the 1990s. In 2012, the FBI warned him that Russian spies were seeking to recruit him as an “agent of influence”.


    The publication of emails hacked from the Hillary Clinton campaign helped perpetuate an aura of scandal around the Democratic candidate a few weeks before the 2016 election.
    WikiLeaks put them online hours after Trump had suffered an apparent public relations disaster with the emergence of a tape in which he boasted of molesting women.
    Assange is wanted in America to face 18 charges, including conspiring to commit computer intrusion, over the publication of US cables a decade ago.
    He could face up to 175 years in jail if found guilty. He is accused of working with the former US army intelligence analyst Chelsea Manning to leak hundreds of thousands of classified documents.


    The extradition hearing is due to begin at Woolwich crown court on Monday, beginning with a week of legal argument. It will then be adjourned and continue with three weeks of evidence scheduled to begin on 18 May.


    The decision, which is expected months later, is likely to be appealed against by the losing side, whatever the outcome.


    Assange has been held on remand in Belmarsh prison since last September after serving a 50-week jail sentence for breaching his bail conditions while he was in the Ecuadorian embassy in London.


    He entered the building in 2012 to avoid extradition to Sweden over sex offence allegations, which he has always denied and were subsequently dropped.


    Assange’s claims of a deal emerged a day after Trump granted clemency to a string of high-profile figures convicted on fraud or corruption charges, including the former Illinois governor Rod Blagojevich and the “junk bond king” Michael Milken. Trump has not excluded pardoning Roger Stone, a former aide who was convicted in November of obstructing a congressional investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential race, and in particular for lying to investigators about his relationship with Assange and WikiLeaks.
    Stone once boasted that he had dinner with Assange but later said the claim was a joke.

    Donald Trump 'offered Julian Assange a pardon if he denied Russia link to hack' | Media | The Guardian
    “If we stop testing right now we’d have very few cases, if any.” Donald J Trump.

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    Trump doing the honorable thing, again

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    It cracks me up how fucking dumb these trumpanzees actually are. They believe everything the lying bald orange cunto says without ever checking.

    Medicaid, Medicare and Social Security are among the most popular federal programs out there. A 2019 Pew Research poll showed majorities across all parties and demographics opposing cuts to Social Security. A Public Policy Polling survey that same year found broad opposition to slashing Medicaid or Medicare.


    The programs are so popular that Donald Trump himself, back in his 2016 campaign, promised to keep his hands off of them. And in his State of the Union address on Feb. 4, he reiterated what he called “an ironclad pledge to American families” to “always protect your Medicare and your Social Security. Always.”


    These, of course, were falsehoods.


    In an interview shortly before his speech, Trump opened the door to cutting Social Security and Medicare benefits if he’s reelected. Days later, after releasing his budget blueprint for fiscal year 2021, the president rolled out plans to cut $2 trillion from social safety net programs over the next decade.


    Trump’s budget proposal will likely go the way of last year’s, when he called for slashing $1.5 trillion from Medicaid over 10 years only to see Congress reject it out of hand. Still, he is already taking concrete steps to undermine these programs, starting with Medicaid.


    It’s risky business for Trump to try to fundamentally alter the way Medicaid, Medicare and Social Security provide critical health care and security to Americans in need. It’s even riskier to make an “ironclad promise” to protect these programs while trying to cut them to pieces.


    Currently, Medicaid is what’s known as an open-ended health benefit — it covers poor, near-poor and disabled adults and children as their needs require. The federal government pays 50 to 75 percent of the cost through the traditional Medicaid program, with states covering the rest. When the program was expanded under the Affordable Care Act, the federal government stepped in to cover 90 percent of the cost of caring for new enrollees.


    But the Trump administration now proposes to let states that opted for the expansion (several of which are controlled by GOP governors or legislatures) cap what they spend for their portion of the expanded population. This would mean kicking many people — largely vulnerable parents and struggling childless adults — off Medicaid altogether, while reducing coverage for others.


    Under the proposal, that capped spending is indexed to inflation, which typically grows at a slower rate than medical costs, instead of according to need. In short, it destroys the program’s fundamental promise to provide coverage — and this from the same folks that worried so much about Obamacare “death panels.”


    Trump has also proposed slashing Social Security disability benefits by $2.6 billion over 10 years and requiring millions of people with severe physical and intellectual disabilities to muck through a mass of red tape every two years to “re-prove” that they are still disabled.


    This is expected to cost nearly as much to administer as it would save in benefits. In other words, its only purpose is to deprive impoverished disabled people of badly needed benefits.


    Trump Breaks Promise on Safety Net - Progressive.org

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