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    Quote Originally Posted by CSFFan View Post
    What a joke.
    It is and has been scince what I consider the failed Mueller report. Had Mueller done a proper easy to understand report, Trump would be gone.

    Unless 20 Senate Republicans defect and vote to impeach this current effort is going nowhere. The house will pass to impeach, pass on to Senate where impeachment vote will fail. US Presidents are easy to get and near impossible to get rid of. A bit like mothers in law.
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    That dumb publicity stunt where the GOPers disrupted the hearings whilst likening themselves to 'The 300' just got dumber.

    Turns out that several of them are on the committees involved so were entitled to be in the room anyway.



    They know they can't defend Trump on the facts so this is the sort of shit they have to resort to.

    Stupid Watergate continues apace.

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    [QUOTE=Cujo;4017346]
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post

    He may not have been 'found' guilty of it but anyone who's been paying attention for the last couple of days can see that he most certainly IS guilty of it.

    Seems as as though everyone is not in agreement,which is possibly why the dems.are doing all of this behind closed doors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Seems as as though everyone is not in agreement,which is possibly why the dems.are doing all of this behind closed doors.
    1. in 2015 the republican controlled house wrote the rules (that democrats are now following) which allow witnesses to give testimony in private.

    2. 48 republican members of the intel, foreign affairs and oversight committees are permitted entry to the SCIF.

    3. you're an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    Seems as as though everyone is not in agreement,which is possibly why the dems.are doing all of this behind closed doors.
    It seems that Trumptards don't care about the Constitution, Rule of Law, or actual facts and will prostitute themselves and their souls to their Orange Douche-bag God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    There are Republicans in the hearings.

    This is just a cretinous publicity stunt for the MAGA hat-wearing retards.
    It's an attempt by the Republican house reps to have these hearings in public where they and Fox News can do their best to make a circus out of it, as they did during the Mueller investigation, if you had a chance to watch any part of it. It's my understanding the Democrats have now capitulated to their demands.

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    Blow to Trump as DoJ ordered to turn over evidence from Mueller grand jury

    A judge on Friday ordered the justice department to give the House unredacted portions of grand jury testimony from special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation, handing a victory to Democrats who want the material for the impeachment investigation of Donald Trump.

    In the ruling, the US district judge Beryl Howell says that while the department had argued that existing law barred it from sharing the materials with Congress, “DoJ is wrong”.

    Howell wrote: “In carrying out the weighty constitutional duty of determining whether impeachment of the president is warranted, Congress need not redo the nearly two years of effort spent on the special counsel’s investigation, nor risk being misled by witnesses, who may have provided information to the grand jury and the special counsel that varies from what they tell [the House judiciary committee].”

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-jury-evidence

    It blows my mind that the DoJ is not co-operating.
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    As an outsider I see American Politics as a circus that rivals the events that are unfolding around the Brexit Farce.

    To think these clowns on both sides of the Atlantic are being funded by taxpayers money is disturbing to say the least.

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    [QUOTE=Cujo;4017346]
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post

    He may not have been 'found' guilty of it but anyone who's been paying attention for the last couple of days can see that he most certainly IS guilty of it.

    Except there is is no quo in the quid pro would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    Except there is is no quo in the quid pro would.
    And there it comes... Repeater parroting the Hannity / Fox News line, disregarding facts, obfuscating and trying to muddy the waters.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    It blows my mind that the DoJ is not co-operating.
    No surprise. AG Barr is a Trump appointee and head of DoJ. He can and will continue to stonewall Congress. This is going to end up being a Supreme Court ruling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Except there is is no quo in the quid pro would.
    Trump has stated he will build a wall in Colorado. Why do we need this? Dont you realize your hero is an idiot, and does not know even elementary school geography. What is your opinion on his comparing the impeachment proceeding to a lynching. Thanks..

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    [QUOTE=RPETER65;4017955]
    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post


    Except there is is no quo in the quid pro would.
    How do you figure that?
    You investigate Bidens son for me and I'll release the money for you.
    Quid, pro and quo.

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    Lawyers for former Trump advisor John Bolton reportedly in contact with impeachment probe panels


    National Security Advisor, John Bolton, gestures as he meets with journalists during a visit to London, Britain August 12, 2019.

    Peter Nicholls | Reuters


    Key Points
    • Lawyers for former national security advisor John Bolton reportedly have been in touch with officials working on House committees conducting an impeachment probe into President Donald Trump.
    • Bolton reportedly was so disturbed by efforts to get Ukraine to investigate Trump’s political opponents, among them former Vice President Joe Biden, that he called it a “drug deal.”
    • Bolton reportedly had called Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani a “hand grenade,” in reference to Giuliani’s efforts to pressure Ukraine.


    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/25/john...nt-panels.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    How do you figure that?
    You investigate Bidens son for me and I'll release the money for you.
    Quid, pro and quo.
    Yep and in actual fact it went further than that.

    The whole thing with Biden's son is a baseless and bebunked manufactured conspiracy and scandal and Trump should've known this and even if he didn't and was actually dumb enough to believe it -- a distinct possibility with that moron -- what he wanted was for Zelensky to publicly announce an investigation because heading into the elections he knew it would be damaging to a political rival.

    Yet all these Trumptards who spent eight years of the Obama administration dribbling on suddenly don't care about their precious Constitution and Trump committing illegal acts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Yet all these Trumptards who spent eight years of the Obama administration dribbling on suddenly don't care about their precious Constitution and Trump committing illegal acts.
    You have to remember trumpanzees are as thick as shit - I mean look at repeater FFS - and when he screams "witch hunt!" and "fake news!" they believe him without question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    Lawyers for former Trump advisor John Bolton reportedly in contact with impeachment probe panels
    John Bolton can damage Trump in a way no one else can. Republicans can’t brush him off as a deep state actor or Democratic lackey. If he verifies what William Taylor said to the impeachment panel, it’s game over for the Orange One.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    If he verifies what William Taylor said to the impeachment panel, it’s game over for the Orange One.
    We can only hope.

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    There seems to be much speculation that Bolton is the second whistleblower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    John Bolton can damage Trump in a way no one else can. Republicans can’t brush him off as a deep state actor or Democratic lackey. If he verifies what William Taylor said to the impeachment panel, it’s game over for the Orange One.
    i agree with everything you've posted...except the last 7 words.

    even if bolton testifies that he has first hand knowledge of an explicit quid pro quo, it's not a certainty that 20 republicans in the senate will vote to remove him from office.

    it all depends on the polls in the races for senate....mcconnell won't cut trump loose until he absolutely has to.....don't get me wrong, he'll probably relish sticking the knife in, but he's a pragmatist.

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    ^ I was actually thinking of Trump’s standing with his base supporters who, for the most part, think the sun shines from John Bolton’s bottom.

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    Just shows what hypocritical wankers Republicans are.

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration reported a river of red ink Friday.
    The federal deficit for the 2019 budget year surged 26% from 2018 to $984.4 billion — its highest point in seven years. The gap is widely expected to top $1 trillion in the current budget year and likely remain there for the next decade.
    The year-over-year widening in the deficit reflected such factors as revenue lost from the 2017 Trump tax cut and a budget deal that added billions in spending for military and domestic programs.
    Forecasts by the Trump administration and the Congressional Budget Office project that the deficit will top $1 trillion in the 2020 budget year, which began Oct. 1. And the CBO estimates that the deficit will stay above $1 trillion over the next decade.
    Those projections stand in contrast to President Donald Trump’s campaign promises that even with revenue lost initially from his tax cuts, he could eliminate the budget deficit with cuts in spending and increased growth generated by the tax cuts.

    https://www.apnews.com/caeb6d6c4eff45e4bc5da12db06004bc

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    i agree with everything you've posted...except the last 7 words.

    even if bolton testifies that he has first hand knowledge of an explicit quid pro quo, it's not a certainty that 20 republicans in the senate will vote to remove him from office.

    it all depends on the polls in the races for senate....mcconnell won't cut trump loose until he absolutely has to.....don't get me wrong, he'll probably relish sticking the knife in, but he's a pragmatist.

    I can't believe I'm posting this ...

    +1

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    Any indications of Republican congressmen questioning Trump is nothing but a PR show to appear concerned. They will do nothing, judging by their past behaviour, even when he loses the 2020 election and won't leave the WH, declaring the results rigged, null, and void.

    This is not meant to sound pessimistic, but we have to be prepared for the worst with this villain.
    Last edited by elche; 27-10-2019 at 06:22 AM.

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    Everywhere the Trump campaign goes it leaves unpaid bills in its wake:


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