Thread: President Donald Trump

And now there is talk of a quid pro quo between Xi and Biden regarding the US backing off on Hong Kong in return for a little Chinese "assistance" in the election. Another phone call stored in the same "secret" system that they used to try and hide the Ukraine one.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Have you read any of his books Jeff?

Any of them?

No?

Didn't think so.

Did you know he was Sigmund Freud's nephew?

No, didn't think so either.

When one asks questions, it's a good idea to know immediately the answers...

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Yesterday he stated to the cameras that China should investigate the Bidens.

What We Know About Hunter Biden’s Dealings in China
Joe Biden’s son owns a stake in a private-equity firm that has participated in various transactions


Hunter Biden, right, flew to China in 2013 aboard Air Force Two, while his father, Joe Biden, left, made an official visit as vice president.

Speaking to reporters on Thursday, President Trump said that China, along with Ukraine, should investigate the business dealings of former Vice President and current Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden and his son, R. Hunter Biden.

Here is what we know about the Biden family’s dealings in China:

WHAT ARE HUNTER BIDEN’S BUSINESS INTERESTS IN CHINA?
Hunter Biden, a 49-year-old lawyer and the second son of the former vice president, owns 10% of a private-equity firm called Bohai Harvest RST (Shanghai) Equity Investment Fund Management Co.

Over the past roughly six years, it has channeled $2.5 billion or more on behalf of its financial backers into automotive, energy, mining and technology deals, according to interviews with people familiar with the private-equity firm and a review by The Wall Street Journal of financial filings and other official business records.

Hunter Biden is one of nine directors of the firm, known as BHR Partners, which is controlled and funded primarily by large Chinese government-owned shareholders.

Read more
https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-we...na-11570181403

Originally Posted by Klondyke

What We Know About Hunter Biden’s Dealings in China
Joe Biden’s son owns a stake in a private-equity firm that has participated in various transactions


Hunter Biden, right, flew to China in 2013 aboard Air Force Two, while his father, Joe Biden, left, made an official visit as vice president.

Speaking to reporters on Thursday, President Trump said that China, along with Ukraine, should investigate the business dealings of former Vice President and current Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden and his son, R. Hunter Biden.

Here is what we know about the Biden family’s dealings in China:

WHAT ARE HUNTER BIDEN’S BUSINESS INTERESTS IN CHINA?
Hunter Biden, a 49-year-old lawyer and the second son of the former vice president, owns 10% of a private-equity firm called Bohai Harvest RST (Shanghai) Equity Investment Fund Management Co.

Over the past roughly six years, it has channeled $2.5 billion or more on behalf of its financial backers into automotive, energy, mining and technology deals, according to interviews with people familiar with the private-equity firm and a review by The Wall Street Journal of financial filings and other official business records.

Hunter Biden is one of nine directors of the firm, known as BHR Partners, which is controlled and funded primarily by large Chinese government-owned shareholders.

Read more
https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-we...na-11570181403

ohoh, doesn't look good, bigger scandal than Trump dealing TBH

and strangely no outrage by the usual Anti-Trumptards, or even the Dems

Trump: abuses his authority and office and acts in a corrupt manner.

Trumptards: ...oh look, squirrels!

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Trump: abuses his authority and office and acts in a corrupt manner.

Trumptards: ...oh look, squirrels!

Exactly

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Trump: abuses his authority and office and acts in a corrupt manner.

Trumptards: ...oh look, squirrels!

Biden: abuses his authority and office and acts in a corrupt manner.

Anti-Trumptards: :cricket:

That’s Fake News, from Trumps Twitter account to the mouths of Trumptards

Originally Posted by Cujo

Not to mention a separate issue.
whatever the Bidens may or may not be guilty of it in no way diminishes Trumps crimes of using the power of the U.S. government to coerce foreign governments into digging up dirt on political rivals. THAT'S a crime regardless of anything else
In fact I suggest if you want to discuss the bidens you start a thread specifically for that. Perhaps the mods could do that and move all the off topic Biden family crimes posts there.

If infact it it is proved that’s what he did I agree.

Speaking on TV, the US president said Ukraine should investigate Joe Biden. Trump seems to think doubling down on his crimes is a good defense strategy

Less than two weeks after his election, Donald Trump announced to the world that he was considering a crazed animal for his first secretary of defense.

Nobody but Trump called the highly respected general Mad Dog. But that didn’t stop the maddest dog of them all. Jim Mattis, who told everyone he hated the nickname, eventually resigned because he wasn’t mad enough to follow the leader of this peculiar pack by trashing every US ally on the planet.

But that was so 2018.

If we’ve learned anything at all about the wackadoodle commander-in-chief by now, we know that the brazen bozo knows no bounds. We’ve also come to discover that everyone who works near him eventually starts howling like a mad dog, whether or not they were unhinged on the day they were hired.

This is not meant to impugn the good character of our crazy canine friends. But it’s hard to fathom the conduct of a grown man who behaves like Donald Trump. Much like a naked drunken streaker at a Stoke City game, his pleasure at flaunting his crime is in inverse proportion to our respect for his genius, courage and good looks.

Perhaps we’ve been overthinking this. Perhaps, instead of gaslighting us all with some grand deception, Trump has been gaslighting himself into thinking he was kind of good at this media thing he calls the presidency.

Either way, the big dog managed to drop a huge one on his impeachment defense on Thursday.

Sure, sure, the whistleblower report was hearsay. Sure, sure, the House Democrats were fabricating everything. Sure, sure, there was no attempt to get Ukraine to interfere with an American election. It was all so perfect. Just like the call between Trump and Zelenskiy.


Until Trump opened his big mouth. What exactly did he want Zelenskiy to do after their call, asked one cunning reporter on the White House south lawn on Thursday?

“Well, I would think that, if they were honest about it, they’d start a major investigation into the Bidens. It’s a very simple answer,” said the very simple president.

“They should investigate the Bidens, because how does a company that’s newly formed – and all these companies, if you look at. And by the way likewise China should start an investigation into the Bidens, because what happened in China is just about as bad as what happened with, with Ukraine.”

Admitting to your crimes in front of the TV cameras is a novel way to start your defense. Extending those crimes to yet another country – this time, China – is certainly original. Seeking that help from a country you’ve dragged into an epic trade war is venturing into creative territory.

(And yes, dear Maga readers, it’s a crime.)

Did it ever cross our mad dog’s mind that maybe – just maybe – it wasn’t a great idea to smear the Bidens with the very same stuff that his own family produces every day of the week? Probably not. In Nixon’s day they used to call this “dirty tricks”. In Trump’s hands, it’s more like a dirty protest.


So we have the exquisite sight and sound of the saintly Mike Pence righteously condemning any family member trying to make a quick buck from someone close to the presidency.

“I think the American people have a right to know if the vice-president of the United States or his family profited from this position as vice-president during the last administration,” he incanted at the First Baptist church in Scottsdale, Arizona, on Thursday.

Mr Vice-President, it gives me great pleasure to introduce you to the Trump family. There may not be enough baptismal water to wash this one down.

How many souls will we lose to this cult of the mad dog?

There’s poor Kevin McCarthy, the House Republican leader, trying and failing to defend Trump by wrongly disputing a word in a pseudo-transcript that he clearly never read.

There’s a cluster of Trump diplomats texting each other about Trump’s unlikely Ukraine adventure: “I think it’s crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign,” wrote Bill Taylor, the top US diplomat in Kyiv. Crazy for normal people, but totally normal for a mad dog.

There’s a bunch of unnamed Trumpoodles pressuring the IRS to mess with the annual audit of Trump’s tax returns, as yet another whistleblower has reported.


And there’s Mike Pompeo, who thinks it’s normal to go on national TV and pretend like he knew nothing about the Ukraine call. Ten days later, the secretary of state admitted he took part in the very same call, but declared Congress should back off.

Ten days before that, pundits thought Pompeo could run for Senate or even president.

For heaven’s sake, gentlemen! You’re sacrificing your reputations for a man who tweets the Nickelback meme, whose campaign mimics A-ha, and who can’t stop trashing Greta Thunberg. Were there no other mad dogs you could find in a dark DC alley?

Crazy things happen when crazy takes over the West Wing. Pretty soon, you end up with Fox News – Fox News! – firing a wingnut like Todd Starnes for saying that Democrats worship a pagan god who likes child sacrifice.

The impeachment saga that is only just starting will revolve around whether Donald Trump is unfit to hold the office of the president. But we already know the answer to that. The real question is whether Trump is fit to hold a pack of Tide pods.

A former police detective in Washington liked to tell the story of the dumbest criminal he ever met. This particular felon plotted an elaborate stick-up at a Home Depot, where he pretended to be interested in applying for a job. He duly filled out a job application form before pulling out his gun to demand all their cash. A few hours after the robbery, the police rolled up to his home to arrest him: he wrote his real address on the job form.

Donald Trump behaves like he’s pulling off the heist of the century. For all we know about his personal finances, he might just be. But thanks to multiple whistleblowers, and the words that tumble endlessly out of his mouth, we now have something else: the trail of evidence that leads right to the Oval Office.

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...chment-inquiry

Originally Posted by RPETER65

If infact it it is proved that’s what he did I agree.

What do you mean 'if'?
He's admitted it on T.V.
And now he's trying to bully China into doing the same thing (in the middle of a trade war no less )

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Hunter Biden is one of nine directors of the firm, known as BHR Partners, which is controlled and funded primarily by large Chinese government-owned shareholders.

So he had a 10% interest in a Chinese investment firm. How is any of this illegal? Are you accusing him of something illegal. Where's the proof that anything either he or Joe Biden did anything illegal either in China or Ukraine.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

If infact it it is proved that’s what he did I agree.

We're making progress. Repeater is starting to doubt whether or not baldy orange cunto tells the truth.

Originally Posted by Humbert

So he had a 10% interest in a Chinese investment firm. How is any of this illegal? Are you accusing him of something illegal. Where's the proof that anything either he or Joe Biden did anything illegal either in China or Ukraine.

Don't be too hard on Buttplug, he's not very bright you know.

Originally Posted by Humbert

So he had a 10% interest in a Chinese investment firm. How is any of this illegal? Are you accusing him of something illegal. Where's the proof that anything either he or Joe Biden did anything illegal either in China or Ukraine.

traffic of influence, do you know what that mean? do you really think that Biden son could get that kind of deal if he wasn't Biden son? how frigging naive are you? I am starting to think you are another fucking dumb woman

Originally Posted by Humbert

If you are looking for corruption, look no further than Donald Trump who never divested himself of his interests in his family business and profits everyday by international business deals made by his sons using their unique positions to leverage deals. Or look at Ivanka Trump who has had several copyrights approved in China, who her father is negotiating trade deals with, while acting as an employed of the WH. There is no question of where the corruption lies, it is with the Trump family and his administration.

the corruption of influence might be blatant, but again if you look at past POTUS, they were equally corrupted

so let's be fair and investigate everyone, starting with the Bush criminal family

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

POTUS, they were equally corrupted

so let's be fair and investigate everyone, starting with the Bush criminal family

In other words, let's change the subject because Trump is to be defended not matter what.

apparently there is a potential 2nd whistleblower who is considering filing an official complaint over his/her concerns about trump's dealings with ukraine.

Why to be enraged about a good business in a foreign country when exercised by a known expert in that field? Should we question also the business help in other countries, e.g. Telecom in Kosovo?

^ i don't know, comrade.

why don't you tell us vladmir's position on the issue.

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Why to be enraged about a good business in a foreign country when exercised by a known expert in that field?

Err...because it's unconstitutional for a president to enrich himself through foreign entanglements?

Comrade, the US is not Russia where corruption at the top has no repercussions.

Originally Posted by Humbert

In other words, let's change the subject because Trump is to be defended not matter what.

not defending Trump, but the timing of all this by having CIA spying on the oval office is highly concerning

don't you have a problem with the CIA spying on the POTUS when it can be used against him if he is not following the 'CIA recommendations' for international policies?

I find the whole thing highly questionable, let's investigate and go after the big criminals first before jailing the small ones like Trump