Thread: President Donald Trump

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

you need to stop being fooking gay about it

What would you stop becoming gay about?

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

I don’t have contempt for Christians, I have contempt for hypocrites and people who dress up and hide their ignorance and bigotry behind religion.

Don't you also?

I do have contempt for those who put on the garments of Christians,for what ever reason,and in doing so tarnish the reputation of true Christians thus giving the opportunity for you and many other non believers to attack both true believers and those who only put up a front.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

I do have contempt for those who put on the garments of Christians,for what ever reason,and in doing so tarnish the reputation of true Christians thus giving the opportunity for you and many other non believers to attack both true believers and those who only put up a front.

Contempt well and noted ....

Originally Posted by RPETER65

I do have contempt for those who put on the garments of Christians,for what ever reason,and in doing so tarnish the reputation of true Christians thus giving the opportunity for you and many other non believers to attack both true believers and those who only put up a front.

So basically that covers pretty well every republican-voting god botherer in the bible belt then.

Why am I not surprised.
Distract and deflect.

Washington (AFP) - Donald Trump's administration is amping up an investigation into Hillary Clinton's emails, The Washington Post reported Saturday, breathing new life into a pet issue used by the president to rail against his opponent during the 2016 elections.

The question of whether Clinton improperly used a private email account and server while secretary of state led to Trump's repeat assertion that she deserved to be put in prison and frequent chants of "lock her up" at his political rallies

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https://yahoo.com/news/state-departm...c_src=yahooapp

Originally Posted by RPETER65

I do have contempt for those who put on the garments of Christians,for what ever reason,and in doing so tarnish the reputation of true Christians thus giving the opportunity for you and many other non believers to attack both true believers and those who only put up a front.

So we're in agreement then, you also find the Christian / Evangelical support of Trump to be hypocrisy of the highest order?

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

you have completely lost your common sense with that Trump thing, you need to stop being fooking gay about it

Trump is so far one of the best POTUS we ever had, and that's why they all want to take him down

like they did with Clinton,

Agree, this should get me another red sticker.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

So we're in agreement then, you also find the Christian / Evangelical support of Trump to be hypocrisy of the highest order?

Not all together, to support any of the Democratic Presidential wannabes would be highly hypocritical,abortion,chasing Christians out of business for standing by their Christian beliefs,and I could go on,are much more offensive than Trump’s personal life. What Trump has to answer to God for is nothing to me,God will sort all of that out.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

much more offensive than Trump’s personal life

Much more offensive than a narcissistic serial liar who cheats on his pregnant third wife with a porn star and then bribes her to try to keep it quiet?

And let's not forget he was for abortion before it became a political expediency for him to be against it.

Hardly making the strongest case that 'Christians' aren't hypocrites who shelve their own 'values' when it suits them, Repeater.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Much more offensive than a narcissistic serial liar who cheats on his pregnant third wife with a porn star and then bribes her to try to keep it quiet?

And let's not forget he was for abortion before it became a political expediency for him to be against it.

Hardly making the strongest case that 'Christians' aren't hypocrites who shelve their own 'values' when it suits them, Repeater.

Your reading skills are somewhat lacking or you simply ignored what I said about God dealing with Trump concerning his personal life. But,that be as it may Trump may have been for abortion before he was against it,and I will just take your word for that, but he is introducing judges to the highest courts that will probably align against abortion on demand if it were to come up again. I believe exactly the opposite is true about Christians shelving their values,as electing people who support abortion would be an extreme example of Christians shelving their values. If you intend on trying to turn what I say against me you need to up your game.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Your reading skills are somewhat lacking or you simply ignored what I said about God dealing with Trump concerning his personal life

No I saw it, I just thought it was another weak-ass cop out: 'let's forgo our own principles and side with this clearly crappy human being who is the antithesis of what we claim to believe in 'cos it'll get us what we want and god will take care of the bill when it comes due later...'

A deal with the devil is still a deal with the devil. Yet more hypocrisy innit.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

I will just take your word for tha

You really don't need to take my word it's a matter of public record.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

No I saw it, I just thought it was another weak-ass cop out: 'let's forgo our own principles and side with this clearly crappy human being who is the antithesis of what we claim to believe in 'cos it'll get us what we want and god will take care of the bill when it comes due later...'

A deal with the devil is still a deal with the devil. Yet more hypocrisy innit.



You really don't need to take my word it's a matter of public record.

I guess you thought wrong as I said before it is not my business what Trump does or has done in his personal life no more than it would be if anyone else were involved in these type of things.

As as I said previously the deal with the devil would be supporting any of the democratic presidential wannabes who would throw many things Christians value to the curb.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

it is not my business what Trump does or has done in his personal life no more than it would be if anyone else were involved in these type of things.

Goodo, if you're comfortable supporting a pathologically lying narcissistic who cheats on his wife with porn stars and is the antithesis of the principles you claim to believe and live your life by then that's on you and your conscience.

Can't imagine it will go down to well with that god of yours though.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Goodo, if you're comfortable supporting a pathologically lying narcissistic who cheats on his wife with porn stars and is the antithesis of the principles you claim to believe and live your life by then that's on you and your conscience.

Can't imagine it will go down to well with that god of yours though.

Yep, repeater's fucked.
He's going to hell.

Originally Posted by Cujo

Why am I not surprised.
Distract and deflect.

more

https://yahoo.com/news/state-departm...c_src=yahooapp

Next:

BENGHAZI!!!!

Why impeachment only?

Republican Presidential challenger Bill Weld claims Donald Trump should face the 'death penalty' for 'treason' over impeachment controversy

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...er-claims.html

'Ole Bill might be reaching a bit there.

Originally Posted by Cujo

So my question is, if Giuliani is legally obliged to testify but refuses (regardless the reason, I.E. Trump says no ) can/will they send in a sherriff and deputies to slam him over the desk,cuff him and march him off to the cells for contempt.?

My understanding is that Giuliani might claim lawyer/client confidentiality. I think that doesn't apply when the client/lawyer were committing a crime.

Trump allies pushed Biden-Ukraine allegations at key moments in campaign timeline


As Joe Biden prepared to launch his 2020 presidential bid last April, members of President Donald Trump’s inner circle began publicly pushing unsubstantiated allegations about the former vice president and Ukraine.The president’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., and Brad Parscale, his 2020 campaign manager, both blasted out links to articles on Twitter within days of each other in early April that painted Biden and his son Hunter as unethical, based on unproven charges stemming from Hunter Biden's work in Ukraine.

Those first mentions, distributed to their combined millions of social media followers, coincided with a spring effort by the president’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani to find damaging information on Biden and preceded, by a matter of days, Trump’s first phone call on April 21 with then Ukrainian President-Elect Volodymyr Zelenskiy.
Four days later, Biden announced his run for office.

The trickle of tweets soon became a steady stream. Over the next four months, Giuliani, Trump Jr., and other top surrogates lobbed accusations at both Bidens at least a dozen times.

By late July, when Trump placed a second call to the Ukrainian leader explicitly asking him to investigate the unfounded claims, the president’s campaign and official super PAC — as well as the Republican National Committee and its chairwoman — had all amplified messages with unverified information about the Bidens and the Eastern European country.

Revelations about Trump’s July call with Zelenskiy in recent days put the early aspersions cast on the Bidens by those eager to re-elect Trump in a new light. A whistleblower complaint also alleges that Giuliani, Attorney General William Barr and others may have assisted with or tried to conceal the president’s attempt to get the Ukrainian government to interfere in the 2020 election by investigating the Bidens.

And Giuliani’s contact with Ukrainian officials and efforts to get them to investigate unproven claims of misconduct by the Biden family — an endeavor he’s said was at the direction of the president and coordinated with the State Department — are now at the center of an impeachment inquiry in the House.

The amplification by Trump’s political allies of the unsubstantiated Biden accusations also suggest any presidential request for an investigation into the former vice president or his family could be a political endeavor, not one aimed at rooting out corruption in Ukraine, as Trump has said.

Trump campaign communications director Tim Murtaugh said it makes complete sense that the president’s political aides would focus on the background of a potential 2020 opponent.

“Hunter Biden’s sweetheart business deals in Ukraine and China are directly linked with his father’s time as vice president and everyone knows it,” Murtaugh said. “We have been talking about this for months. It would be campaign malpractice not to bring this to the attention of voters.”

It’s not the first time that those closest to Trump have shown an openness to political help from foreign actors or dropped clues about significant developments and teased major political implications to come. In 2016, Trump Jr. convened a meeting at Trump Tower with a Russian lawyer claiming to have damaging information about then-Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton.

Months later, Giuliani hinted that the campaign had a “couple of surprises” left, just days before unfavorable revelations about Clinton’s email investigation became public.

Giuliani, an outspoken advocate for the president, has a history of flaunting sensitive information, and the allegations about the Bidens and Ukraine this year were no different, according to two former White House officials.
“He talks to everybody about it,” one official said, including urging campaign officials, outside surrogates and donors to push the controversial narrative.

This summer, the Trump campaign’s main account and even the official Republican National Committee account started tweeting about the Bidens and Ukraine, raising questions about how widespread the tactic extended beyond the Trump White House.

The president has argued his conversations with Zelenskiy were intended to eliminate corruption, but a review of Trump’s top surrogates shows a much more targeted approach when it comes to spreading harmful stories that could ultimately hurt his political opponent heading into 2020.

In early May, the official Trump-backed Super PAC posted a Tweet linking to a story with the following headline: “HUNTER BIDEN’S WORK IN UKRAINE EMERGES AS A POTENTIAL 2020 SCANDAL.”
In June, about a month before the president’s second call with Zelenskiy, Trump’s campaign tweeted an imaginary executive order “preventing Joe Biden from steering sweetheart foreign deals to family.” It even included a directive to sign up for campaign text alerts.

Trump Jr. sent at least five tweets between April and August dealing with Hunter Biden’s business arrangements in Ukraine, often linking to stories with damning banners, including: “Eight Things to Know About the Biden Family's Culture of Corruption”

On June 20, GOP chairwoman Ronna McDaniel tweeted: “Weeks after Joe Biden traveled to China and Ukraine as VP, his son cashed in on millions of dollars in foreign money. Even Democrats are calling it a “huge” conflict of interest. Biden needs to come clean about abusing his role as America’s top diplomat.”

Even the president retweeted several messages on Biden and Ukraine earlier this year, including one by former Gov. Mike Huckabee calling out “Biden’s cushy deals w/ Ukraine and China,” ending simply with “#Enough.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...eline-n1060106

It's the world we live in. Anyone can send out a torrent of shit on the internet, and some of it will stick.

Those it stuck with will rarely check its veracity or even look for corrections.

But they're not likely to vote Democrat anyway, they're as thick as shit, so it doesn't really matter.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Goodo, if you're comfortable supporting a pathologically lying narcissistic who cheats on his wife with porn stars and is the antithesis of the principles you claim to believe and live your life by then that's on you and your conscience.

Can't imagine it will go down to well with that god of yours though.

You really are quite boring.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

You really are quite boring.

What another scintillating post! Fook me running, the only reason I read this thread is to see what witty post you'll make next!

the question the trump administration won't answer:

with the tools and resources of every federal agency at his disposal (including his state department), why did trump send his private attorney to ukraine to investigate corruption and US federal funding?

Originally Posted by raycarey

with the tools and resources of every federal agency at his disposal (including his state department), why did trump send his private attorney to ukraine to investigate corruption and US federal funding?

If I'm not mistaken Sherlock Giuliani was asked this question. He said they were told but didn't take any action and that's why he kept diggin' away.