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    As much as I despise the man, an early prediction. 45 will be reelected and this time will win a narrow majority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    45 will be reelected
    ...agree: after all, American voters re-elected GWB despite his shenanigans and perceived incompetence...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    45 will be reelected and this time will win a narrow majority.
    What are you basing that prediction on? Some key states have shown a big shift away from him in the last election and with regards to his favorability rating. Wisconsin in particular ousted Gov Scott Walker and Trumps currently 13 points underwater there as far as favorability. 10 points underwater in Michigan and also underwater in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Virginia, and Illinois. Hell he is even tanking in Iowa and North Carolina right now. Like I said I am not sure what you are basing that on but I see things playing out much differently. He is looking very weak in the key states of Wis, Penn, Ohio, MI and Ill. He narrowly won those states and he is very unpopular in those states right now. He has to win those states to be reelected. Also no way the GOP will retake the house it would require a massive turnout that the already dying GOP can not provide.

    My prediction is Biden by a landslide taking all the states I mentioned as well as Florida and Arizona. Dems will gain seats in the house and pick up senate seats as well but I do not think they will get enough to take the senate. I think they will narrow it to say 51-49.

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    It needs to be constantly harped on what a traitor he is.
    Siding with a despotic dictator against a fellow American. Regardless his opinion of Biden he should not take the side of Kim.

    https://japantoday.com/category/worl...icism-of-biden
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Also no way the GOP will retake the house it would require a massive turnout that the already dying GOP can not provide.
    ...gerrymandering to the rescue...
    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    I think they will narrow it to say 51-49
    ...so, enough to continue populating the courts with Republicans then...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...so, enough to continue populating the courts with Republicans then...
    Umm no not with Biden as president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    What are you basing that prediction on?
    Speaking with Trump haters who are tired of the nonsense and believe 45 although an asshole has so far done no harm. Polls thoughout the nation can be very wrong. Just ask Hillary.

    You predict Joe. Fair nuff. I predict 45.

    Come 4 Nov 2020, one or both of us will be wrong.
    "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect,"

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    American voters re-elected GWB despite his shenanigans and perceived incompetence.
    There was a war on, that always ensures re-election, and Trump is MUCH worse than village idiot Dubbya, so I don't think your reasoning holds water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    There was a war on, that always ensures re-election, and Trump is MUCH worse than village idiot Dubbya, so I don't think your reasoning holds water.
    Dubbya was far worse and easy to manipulate, the very definition of a village idiot

    Trump is a nasty fucker, but is unpredictable, you tell him to go to war, he will do the opposite, like a good manipulator that he is

    I wouldn't surprise to see that he does a surprise peace deal with Iran like he did with NK, just to piss off his Pentagon masters

    Trump is a true anarchist, and why he should be fully supported

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Dubbya was far worse and easy to manipulate, the very definition of a village idiot

    Trump is a nasty fucker, but is unpredictable, you tell to go to war, he will do the opposite, like a good manipulator that he is

    I wouldn't surprise to see that he does a surprise peace deal with Iran like he did with NK,
    Dubya was just George Snr's hand-puppet. Now that Big Bush is finally dead, so is boy George. Trump is an entertaining stooge dancing to the tune of his paymasters. He is a fucking side-show clown just doing what he's told.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Speaking with Trump haters who are tired of the nonsense and believe 45 although an asshole has so far done no harm. Polls thoughout the nation can be very wrong. Just ask Hillary.

    You predict Joe. Fair nuff. I predict 45.

    Come 4 Nov 2020, one or both of us will be wrong.
    the only way Trump will not be re-elected is if he doesn't want to go for another 4 years

    the fat SOB will get a nice pension for the rest of his life with that job and can declare bankruptcy many times over

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    Dubya was just George Snr's hand-puppet. Now that Big Bush is finally dead, so is boy George. Trump is an entertaining stooge dancing to the tune of his paymasters. He is a fucking side-show clown just doing what he's told.
    indeed, GW was far worse because he think he was doing good while actually destroying everything. What a fool. Completely blind.

    At least Trump can understand evil

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    the only way Trump will not be re-elected is if he doesn't want to go for another 4 years
    Will you fuck off with your utter nonsense we are trying to have an adult discussion here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Trump is a nasty fucker, but is unpredictable, you tell him to go to war, he will do the opposite,
    Which means he's very predictable.
    You tell him Obama supports xyz, Trump will do the opposite. Which means he's very predictable.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    the only way Trump will not be re-elected is if he doesn't want to go for another 4 years
    Of course he wants to...as long as he's prez he's unindictable and he knows it. He has to stave off the inevitable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    Which means he's very predictable.
    You tell him Obama supports xyz, Trump will do the opposite. Which means he's very predictable.
    His predictability is why he is so dangerous.

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    The reason he doesn't want to be a one-term president is because Obama was a two-term president.
    Watch him squeal "fix" when he loses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Attilla the Hen View Post
    The reason he doesn't want to be a one-term president is because Obama was a two-term president.
    Watch him squeal "fix" when he loses.
    At the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Polls thoughout the nation can be very wrong. Just ask Hillary.
    The polls were not 'very wrong' at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    His predictability is why he is so dangerous.
    what is predictable is that he is unpredictable, he is going to surprise you guys, wait and see

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    Barring his death or a Black Swan event, if the economy is ticking along well, 45 is a very good chance of being re-elected.


    One trick will be to keep the Trade War with China going till a few months out from the Election.

    USA consumers will keep paying for the Tariffs and #45 will keep saying that China is paying for it.

    It's the tax increase that you have when you're not having a tax increase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Will you fuck off with your utter nonsense we are trying to have an adult discussion here.

    That is an amazing statement coming from you.An adult discussion indeed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Chuchok View Post
    That is an amazing statement coming from you.
    Piss off you dimwitted trumpanzee. Why do you post in here? You clearly know fuck all about American politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    As much as I despise the man, an early prediction. 45 will be reelected and this time will win a narrow majority.
    no one (including trump himself) thought he would win in '16, and many rational people just stayed home.... many also were lukewarm to or flat out didn't like clinton.

    and then trump drew an inside straight and got an electoral college victory due to 80,000 total votes in 3 states.....80,000 people can fit into a football stadium.

    in '20 it will be many of the people who voted for trump in '16 that stay home....either because they're now certain he's unfit for office or because he hasn't done jackshit for them.

    and all the bernie voters who didn't vote in the general election because of disgust with the DNC and the clinton campaign....they'll be going to the polls on election day, because they know the risks of staying home.

    the trump campaign is never going to be able to match the enthusiasm they had in '16, so they're going to try and keep people (black women, millennials, etc...) home on election day....but i don't think it's going to work. normal people have had enough.

    we're a year and half out, and practically anything could happen between now and then, but if pressed, i would say the dem nominee wins in a popular vote landslide (5 million plus) and an electoral victory similar to obama's in 2012.

    yeah, he could draw another inside straight, but it's incredibly unlikely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Attilla the Hen View Post
    Watch him squeal "fix" when he loses.
    you can count on that....that was his game plan for his seemingly inevitable loss in '16. he was setting it up for months.

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    good points, Ray

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