Thread: President Donald Trump

Ruh ro. The first of Cohen’s recordings of his and Trump’s conversations is out. More to follow for sure.

Trump heard discussing buying rights to Playboy model's story



Lawyer for Cohen says audio, given to CNN, shows client tried to handle payment legally while Trump wanted to pay in cash



STORY HERE. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...dougal-payment

Originally Posted by Humbert

Everybody has already factored in that Trump is a horn dog misogynist and liar. His base gives him a pass on all of this. So the only real question is if any laws have been broken. Probably the only issue is campaign finance violations which only carry nominal fines as penalties.

All of this just distracts from his incompetence, bigotry and his wish to move the US away from democracy and towards authoritarianism.

I thought it was required for the President, Kennedy, Clinton and Johnson would bang the table and declare that he had more women by accident than Kennedy ever had on purpose. I would question the sanity of a man without at least 3 women at a time. It just ain't normal.

https://www.businessinsider.sg/presi...8-3/?r=US&IR=T

Originally Posted by misskit

Ruh ro. The first of Cohen’s recordings of his and Trump’s conversations is out. More to follow for sure.

Trump heard discussing buying rights to Playboy model's story



Lawyer for Cohen says audio, given to CNN, shows client tried to handle payment legally while Trump wanted to pay in cash



STORY HERE. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...dougal-payment

What's interesting is that it came from Cohen.

Clearly he thinks baldy orange cunto is trying to throw him under the bus.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

What's interesting is that it came from Cohen.

Clearly he thinks baldy orange cunto is trying to throw him under the bus.

The odd thing is Trump's lawyers agreed to waive client priveledge on the tapes.

Of course anyone with a knowledge of American history and politics knows Clinton did not get impeached for messing around with Monica he got impeached (yes he really did get impeached) for perjury and obstruction of justice. Clinton was only the second President to be Impeached.

Originally Posted by mark45y

Of course anyone with a knowledge of American history and politics knows Clinton did not get impeached for messing around with Monica he got impeached (yes he really did get impeached) for perjury and obstruction of justice. Clinton was only the second President to be Impeached.

thanks for the history, I honestly just got a lobotomy and had forgetten the reason you posted...

He's not 45y for nothing, CSF.

Originally Posted by CSFFan

thanks for the history, I honestly just got a lobotomy and had forgetten the reason you posted...

Nah, you were right. He was basically impeached for lying.

And if that's an impeachable offence then baldy orange cunto is right in the shit, he doesn't even know what the word "truth" means.

Another baldy orange cunto tweet:

China is targeting our farmers, who they know I love & respect, as a way of getting me to continue allowing them to take advantage of the U.S. They are being vicious in what will be their failed attempt. We were being nice - until now! China made $517 Billion on us last year.

Remarkable just how stupid the trumpanzees are to fall for this shit.

Starts a trade war. Has to borrow another $12 Billion to bail out his farmers.

Then calls the Chinese "vicious". (Presumably he doesn't understand that they're being smart, and there's a shitload more to come).

Then claims he was being nice.

Does he even understand who holds all the cards here?

Fucking imbecile.

Meanwhile, back to "so much winning"....

NEW YORK - General Motors, facing rising commodity costs in a trade showdown with Europe and elsewhere, cut its outlook for the year.


The diminished expectations overshadowed a strong second quarter, and shares tumbled more than 5 percent before the opening bell. Other U.S. automakers were dragged down in early trading. Ford Motor posts earnings after the bell Wednesday.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gm-hit-...nings-outlook/

[QUOTE=mark45y;3799191]my father was an Admiral in the Navy in WWII.

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Was he on the Buffalo?

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Is that the only issue? Lying and philandering were grounds for the GOP to call for impeachment of Bill.

Impeachment is a political act not a legal one. The president cannot be indicted while in office but he can be impeached. I was referring to legal issues. As constituted at the present time the house would never vote to impeach him. The only consequences for his lying about his affairs and efforts to cover them up is possible evidence of campaign finance violations, which are misdemeanors, if it is proven that he aided his campaign through his actions

Originally Posted by Humbert

Impeachment is a political act not a legal one. The president cannot be indicted while in office but he can be impeached. I was referring to legal issues. As constituted at the present time the house would never vote to impeach him. The only consequences for his lying about his affairs and efforts to cover them up is possible evidence of campaign finance violations, which are misdemeanors, if it is proven that he aided his campaign through his actions

Clinton was not Impeached for just lying. All politicians do that daily. Clinton was impeached for lying under oath and obstruction of justice. Of course impeachment is a legal act akin to indictment but for high officials.

Originally Posted by mark45y

Of course impeachment is a legal act akin to indictment but for high officials.

You are misinformed. You are missing the point. Of course Clinton was impeached, ie. articles brought against him by the house for lying under oath. He was not removed from office because the Senate voted against impeachment. Impeachment is not a legal proceeding. He may have violated laws but he was not charged with a legal crime.

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Originally Posted by mark45y

my father was an Admiral in the Navy in WWII.

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Was he on the Buffalo?

Actually he had something to do with the LTV-4 Buffalo. As a small child I remember never having to buy tickets to fly or take trains - we just boarded. Walking in Washington I can remember the secret service guys riding on the running boards of the car and Truman stopping to talk to my father and telling me, "my dad was one of the reasons we won WWII." He also worked on the first Atomic submarine with Rickover and helped design the stealth submarine system. We raced a sailboat together when I got a bit older. He was 100% Navy sometimes a difficult man to be with.

Originally Posted by Humbert

You are misinformed. You are missing the point. Of course Clinton was impeached, ie. articles brought against him by the house for lying under oath. He was not removed from office because the Senate voted against impeachment. Impeachment is not a legal proceeding. He may have violated laws but he was not charged with a legal crime.

You are confusing legal and criminal. The Constitution defines impeachment at the federal level and limits impeachment to "The President, Vice President, and all civil officers of the United States" who may be impeached and removed only for "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors. The House legally voted to Impeached Clinton and it went to the Senate for a legal trial.

A two-thirds vote (67 senators) was required to remove Clinton from office. 50 senators voted to remove Clinton on the obstruction of justice charge. No member of the Democratic Party voted guilty.

All proceedings under the law are legal proceedings however not all legal proceedings are criminal proceedings. Lying under oath (what Clinton did) is a crime but since he was President he could not be charged with a criminal offense.

Impeachment is a political act. He was not removed from office on a partisan vote. How could it not be political? He was never charged with a legal crime in a judicial court. Of course impeachment is a legal proceeding but it is not a judicial proceeding. It is inherently political.

I note that the Trump thread has finally reached page 666 which is the mark of the beast - who will save his country and the world from his mendacity?

Originally Posted by mark45y

You are confusing legal and criminal. The Constitution defines impeachment at the federal level and limits impeachment to "The President, Vice President, and all civil officers of the United States" who may be impeached and removed only for "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors. The House legally voted to Impeached Clinton and it went to the Senate for a legal trial.

A two-thirds vote (67 senators) was required to remove Clinton from office. 50 senators voted to remove Clinton on the obstruction of justice charge. No member of the Democratic Party voted guilty.

All proceedings under the law are legal proceedings however not all legal proceedings are criminal proceedings. Lying under oath (what Clinton did) is a crime but since he was President he could not be charged with a criminal offense

So mark, just to clarify, you're simply going to ignore having been called on all your previous bullshit - pretend it never happened - and continue on with more?

Just curious is all.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

So mark, just to clarify, you're simply going to ignore having been called on all your previous bullshit - pretend it never happened - and continue on with more?

quibbling about semantics rather than addressing the point. maybe he thinks that if Mueller presents evidence of obstruction the house, as presently constituted, would vote to impeach.?

Originally Posted by Humbert

quibbling about semantics rather than addressing the point

He does that. A lot.

It's another stock-in-trade of a troll.