Thread: President Donald Trump

Funny thing about Trump supporters in the run up the election was their never ending braying about 'cupcakes'. Now it's all over the biggest snowflakes are ironically in fact Trump lovers! Say anything about the Orange Blitzkrieg Bozo and they have a major online tizzy about it.

Trump as many fans in Thailand's expat community and I have mulled about why this could be. My theory is that they are not unlike Trump themselves: uneducated, fat, full of hate and married to an ex whore.

Originally Posted by Mandaloopy

uneducated, fat, full of hate and married to an ex whore.

...Trump has an MBA from Wharton...still 3 out of 4's not bad...

Originally Posted by tomcat

...Trump has an MBA from Wharton...still 3 out of 4's not bad...

I wish we could see his tax returns so we all could learn a lesson from his education.

Originally Posted by tomcat

Originally Posted by Mandaloopy

uneducated, fat, full of hate and married to an ex whore.

...Trump has an MBA from Wharton...still 3 out of 4's not bad...

Wonder how much that cost him.

The Republicans are all queuing up to tell Fox their outrage at Flynn's misbehaviour being leaked.

Fuck all about the SCROTUS hiring a fucking traitor!

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The Republicans are all queuing up to tell Fox their outrage at Flynn's misbehaviour being leaked.

What's surprising is WHY it was leaked.....could it be that the president was made aware of the misbehavior a month ago and did nothing about it?

Originally Posted by CSFFan

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The Republicans are all queuing up to tell Fox their outrage at Flynn's misbehaviour being leaked.

What's surprising is WHY it was leaked.....could it be that the president was made aware of the misbehavior a month ago and did nothing about it?

He was probably glued to Hannity and didn't hear it.

So the bloke had a chat with the Rusky ambassador about normalising relations and easing sanctions, most sane people would welcome this, but I guess neocons and warmongering liberals who want to see WW3 don't fall into the 'sane' category. Thank fuk Clinton isn't in the Orange House.

so, Flynn is fired by two presidents: Obama cuts him loose for insubordination and Trump, not, I suspect, because Flynn lied, but because he was found out...back to second-tier defense contractors from whence he came...

Originally Posted by buriramboy

So the bloke had a chat with the Rusky ambassador about normalising relations and easing sanctions,

Exactly...and there's a law against doing that as an without being a vetted member of the government....

Originally Posted by tomcat

I suspect, because Flynn lied, but because he was found out..

I can't wait to hear his testimony about who he reported the results of his conversations to....

Originally Posted by tomcat

...Trump has an MBA from Wharton.

No.

Newsweek Just Revealed Trump Lied, NEVER Got Ivy League MBA

Blog: What does Donald Trump mean when he says, 'I went to Wharton'?

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Originally Posted by buriramboy

So the bloke had a chat with the Rusky ambassador about normalising relations and easing sanctions, most sane people would welcome this,

yeah, the "bloke" had a "chat"....your ham-fisted attempt to downplay what is a quite obviously a major scandal is quite comical.

the logan act is over 200 years old, and prohibits unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign government that in a dispute with the US government.

you really think that "most sane people would welcome this"?

clinton is a private citizen right now. how about she has a "chat" with the Iranian ambassador about getting her friends in the state department to clear some hurdles and roadblocks to getting the iranian bank accounts unfrozen quicker?

obama is a private citizen too. how about if he has a "chat" with the chinese ambassador about getting his friends in the IMF and world bank to work on smoothing any problems with claims of china being a currency manipulator?

still think it's a good idea?

yeah, that's what i thought.

Originally Posted by CSFFan

Originally Posted by buriramboy

So the bloke had a chat with the Rusky ambassador about normalising relations and easing sanctions,

Exactly...and there's a law against doing that as an without being a vetted member of the government....

If people want to make a song and dance about someone having a chat about something that most rational people would agree with then fill yer boots. Why all the hatred for Russia anyway, are they still being portrayed as the enemy in Seppoland ready to launch all their nukes at you in the near future?

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by buriramboy

So the bloke had a chat with the Rusky ambassador about normalising relations and easing sanctions, most sane people would welcome this,

yeah, the "bloke" had a "chat"....your ham-fisted attempt to downplay what is a quite obviously a major scandal is quite comical.

the logan act is over 200 years old, and prohibits unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign government that in a dispute with the US government.

you really think that "most sane people would welcome this"?

clinton is a private citizen right now. how about she has a "chat" with the Iranian ambassador about getting her friends in the state department to clear some hurdles and roadblocks to getting the iranian bank accounts unfrozen quicker?

obama is a private citizen too. how about if he has a "chat" with the chinese ambassador about getting his friends in the IMF and world bank to work on smoothing any problems with claims of china being a currency manipulator?

still think it's a good idea?

yeah, that's what i thought.

Anyone who wants to have a chat about easing tensions and preventing more pointless, destructive wars would have the support of the worlds sane people. But obviously in polarised America, sane people are few and far between and it's all about scoring political points and bashing the other side. Do you not think your whole political set up is totally fucked, a closed 2 party system with vested interests controlling both parties?

^
so, you've painted yourself into a corner due to your ignorance and short-sightedness.....and you've chosen to ignore the direct points made and then attempted to pivot to a completely off topic diversion.

kellyanne would be proud.

Originally Posted by raycarey

^
so, you've painted yourself into a corner due to your ignorance and short-sightedness.....and you've chosen to ignore the direct points made and then attempted to pivot to a completely off topic diversion.

kellyanne would be proud.

And how exactly in your twisted mind have I painted myself into a corner, you asked the question about my views on private citizens using their influence to ease tensions and I said i'm all for it, was that not the answer you were expecting because you mentioned Clinton and Obama? Anyway best you just get back to bashing Trump and his administration as i'm sure some good will come from it.

I find it amazing that the dems now embrace Romneys opinion that Russia is a threat which obammination characterized as still living in the 80s.
Why don't you dems just come out and say it that Obama made an Obummer on Russia. And that the repubs were right all along. Oh cant do that because O is infallible isn't he? Even tho you wont mention that, you certainly parade the opposite as the truth now. But flipping and flopping has never mattered when it comes to proving TRiUMPh wrong.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The Republicans are all queuing up to tell Fox their outrage at Flynn's misbehaviour being leaked.
Fuck all about the SCROTUS hiring a fucking traitor!

Originally Posted by CSFFan

What's surprising is WHY it was leaked.....could it be that the president was made aware of the misbehavior a month ago and did nothing about it?

The leaks are coming from the White House staff. It's common knowledge that they are in panic mode. He is an incompetent baboon and they are letting the cat out of the bag.

Originally Posted by Humbert

He is an incompetent baboon

"I'm not a fan of Donald Trump, but I won't denigrate those who are. For those who are fans of Donald Trump, denigrate means to put down."
-David Morris

^ If it comes out that Drumpf instructed Flynn to lie this game is over.

Notice how they don't touch the revelation of the flip flop bye the dems, that's because flip flopping is irrelevant to them, they don't care, the ends justify the means.
What is relevant is Trump must go down! How? They don't care. Why? They don't care. All that matters is that he goes down because then all will be right with the world.

Just like the dems no longer believe in free speech, in freedom of assembly, they also want to destroy any other govt led bye anyone unless its themselves because they are all knowing, the 4rth Reich must be reinstated.

Breaking news and it is BIG!

WASHINGTON — Phone records and intercepted calls show that members of Donald J. Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign and other Trump associates had repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials in the year before the election, according to four current and former American officials.

American law enforcement and intelligence agencies intercepted the communications around the same time that they were discovering evidence that Russia was trying to disrupt the presidential election by hacking into the Democratic National Committee, three of the officials said. The intelligence agencies then sought to learn whether the Trump campaign was colluding with the Russians on the hacking or other efforts to influence the election.

The officials interviewed in recent weeks said that, so far, they had seen no evidence of such cooperation.

But the intercepts alarmed American intelligence and law enforcement agencies, in part because of the amount of contact that was occurring while Mr. Trump was speaking glowingly about the Russian president, Vladimir V. Putin. At one point last summer, Mr. Trump said at a campaign event that he hoped Russian intelligence services had stolen Hillary Clinton’s emails and would make them public.

The officials said the intercepted communications were not limited to Trump campaign officials, and included other associates of Mr. Trump. On the Russian side, the contacts also included members of the Russian government outside of the intelligence services, the officials said. All of the current and former officials spoke on the condition of anonymity because the continuing investigation is classified.

The officials said that one of the advisers picked up on the calls was Paul Manafort, who was Mr. Trump’s campaign chairman for several months last year and had worked as a political consultant in Russia and Ukraine. The officials declined to identify the other Trump associates on the calls.

The call logs and intercepted communications are part of a larger trove of information that the F.B.I. is sifting through as it investigates the links between Mr. Trump’s associates and the Russian government, as well as the D.N.C. hack, according to federal law enforcement officials. As part of its inquiry, the F.B.I. has obtained banking and travel records and conducted interviews, the officials said.

Mr. Manafort, who has not been charged with any crimes, dismissed the accounts of the American officials in a telephone interview on Tuesday. “This is absurd,” he said. “I have no idea what this is referring to. I have never knowingly spoken to Russian intelligence officers, and I have never been involved with anything to do with the Russian government or the Putin administration or any other issues under investigation today.”

Mr. Manafort added, “It’s not like these people wear badges that say, ‘I’m a Russian intelligence officer.’”

Several of Mr. Trump’s associates, like Mr. Manafort, have done business in Russia, and it is not unusual for American businessmen to come in contact with foreign intelligence officials, sometimes unwittingly, in countries like Russia and Ukraine, where the spy services are deeply embedded in society. Law enforcement officials did not say to what extent the contacts may have been about business.

Officials would not disclose many details, including what was discussed on the calls, which Russian intelligence officials were on the calls, and how many of Mr. Trump’s advisers were talking to the Russians. It is also unclear whether the conversations had anything to do with Mr. Trump himself.

A published report from American intelligence agencies that was made public in January concluded that the Russian government had intervened in the election in part to help Mr. Trump, but did not address whether any members of the Trump campaign had participated in the effort.

The intercepted calls are different from the wiretapped conversations last year between Michael T. Flynn, President Trump’s former national security adviser, and Sergey I. Kislyak, the Russian ambassador to the United States. During those calls, which led to Mr. Flynn’s resignation on Monday night, the two men discussed sanctions that the Obama administration imposed on Russia in December.

But the cases are part of the routine electronic surveillance of communications of foreign officials by American intelligence and law enforcement agencies. The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment. The F.B.I. declined to comment.

Two days after the election in November, Sergei A. Ryabkov, the deputy Russian foreign minister, said that “there were contacts” during the campaign between Russian officials and Mr. Trump’s team.

“Obviously, we know most of the people from his entourage,” Mr. Ryabkov said in an interview with the Russian Interfax news agency.

The Trump transition team denied Mr. Ryabkov’s statement. “This is not accurate,” Hope Hicks, a spokeswoman for Mr. Trump, said at the time.

The National Security Agency, which monitors the communications of foreign intelligence services, initially captured the communications between Mr. Trump’s associates and Russians as part of routine foreign surveillance. After that, the F.B.I. asked the N.S.A. to collect as much information as possible about the Russian operatives on the phone calls, and to search through troves of previous intercepted communications that had not been analyzed.

The F.B.I. has closely examined at least three other people close to Mr. Trump, although it is unclear if their calls were intercepted. They are Carter Page, a businessman and former foreign policy adviser to the campaign; Roger Stone, a longtime Republican operative; and Mr. Flynn.

All of the men have strongly denied they had any improper contacts with Russian officials.

As part of the inquiry, the F.B.I. is also trying to assess the credibility of information contained in a dossier that was given to the bureau last year by a former British intelligence operative. The dossier contained a raft of salacious allegations about connections between Mr. Trump, his associates and the Russian government. It also included unsubstantiated claims that the Russians had embarrassing videos that could be used to blackmail Mr. Trump.

The F.B.I. has spent several months investigating the leads in the dossier, but has yet to confirm any of its most explosive allegations.

Senior F.B.I. officials believe that the former British intelligence officer who compiled the dossier, Christopher Steele, has a credible track record, and he briefed F.B.I. investigators last year about how he obtained the information. One American law enforcement official said that F.B.I. agents had made contact with some of Mr. Steele’s sources.

The F.B.I.’s investigation into Mr. Manafort began last spring as an outgrowth of a criminal investigation into his work for a pro-Russian political party in Ukraine and for the country’s former president, Viktor F. Yanukovych. The investigation has focused on why he was in such close contact with Russian and Ukrainian intelligence officials.

The bureau did not have enough evidence to obtain a warrant for a wiretap of Mr. Manafort’s communications, but it had the N.S.A. closely scrutinize the communications of Ukrainian officials he had met.

The F.B.I. investigation is proceeding at the same time that separate investigations into Russian interference in the election are gaining momentum on Capitol Hill. Those investigations, by the House and Senate Intelligence Committees, are examining not only the Russian hacking but also any contacts that Mr. Trump’s team had with Russian officials during the campaign.

On Tuesday, top Republican lawmakers said that Mr. Flynn should be one focus of the investigation, and that he should be called to testify before Congress. Senator Mark Warner of Virginia, the top Democrat on the Intelligence Committee, said that the news surrounding Mr. Flynn in recent days underscored “how many questions still remain unanswered to the American people more than three months after Election Day, including who was aware of what, and when.”

Mr. Warner said that Mr. Flynn’s resignation would not stop the committee “from continuing to investigate General Flynn, or any other campaign official who may have had inappropriate and improper contacts with Russian officials prior to the election.”


www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/us/politics/russia-intelligence-communications-trump.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur