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    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    Maybe we should just have TV talk-show hosts and trained actors in government...
    You haven't been paying attention to Trump's FOX News cabinet picks have you?

    Let alone Reagan the Imbecilic....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    So koman, you think a guy with no background in science and was a 'D' student in science is a good choice to head the Department of Energy a department that requires a technical grasp on the issues? A department traditionally led by people with phds in physics.
    Fresh eyes; fresh approach to management. The last thing needed is more foking Phd's bogging down the system with their endless meetings and procrastination. All government departments need serious review and trimming down. Libtards and snowflakes must be eliminated from all positions of influence.

    We need men of action (and maybe a few women); not more career politicians and boxed in thinkers. A "D" in science is probably a plus under the circumstances. Another military officer of staff rank might have been better, but Donald needs a bit of civilian input I suppose.....just for appearances.

    Besides, if you are going to run a circus, you need clowns......

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    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    Libtards and snowflakes must be eliminated from all positions of influence.
    So we should fire all the tech CEO's who are the very ones driving the economy forward. They are all libtards. The same libtards that gave you the operating system that runs your computer, your ipad, iphone on and on.

    We should eliminate those libtards right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    Libtards and snowflakes must be eliminated from all positions of influence.
    So we should fire all the tech CEO's who are the very ones driving the economy forward. They are all libtards. The same libtards that gave you the operating system that runs your computer, your ipad, iphone on and on.

    We should eliminate those libtards right?
    I don't see those people as libtards or snowflakes. They may be Liberal on many social issues but when it comes to hard business matters, they are hardly in the snowflake camp. The big "tech" companies make virtually all of their products (all those computers, Ipads and shit you mention) outside the US in cheap labor markets, and set up in places like Ireland to avoid US taxes.....just like any other corporation attempting to make a few bucks in the land of freedom and opportunity.....

    The exceptions of course are the much loved military industrial companies who make their best stuff at home and try not to let the Chinese copy and produce it before the seriously underfunded (tongue firmly in cheek) US military get to use it themselves.

    These companies largely depend on US government contracts to survive and they don't have to compete with outside bidders for the business, so little things like massive cost over-runs, are standard and accepted. The government procurers just need to adjust their budgets accordingly...and make some token complaints.. (see F35...$163 billion over budget and seven years late)

    The Donald understands this very well and has a plan to increase the military budget and force companies to bring jobs back to America...OK it's all a bit vague, but never mind. That's what mostly drives the US economy you silly foker.....well, except for maybe housing construction, and food stamps for the 50 million or so that depend on the state handouts.....and always vote Democrat..... of course Hillary was going to fix all that by doing all the same things that got them there in the first place, but the food stamp folks mostly stayed home on election day and it all when to shit.....

    Let the amateurs have a shot at running things for a change.....the pro's have fooked up for too long. There's an old saying I remember: One really motivated amateur can get more done in a day than ten bored professionals..... Maybe other countries can take the cue and elect amateurs too.....then we could have amateur governments running an amateur world. What could really go wrong?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    I don't see those people as libtards or snowflakes.
    Of course not. Why must you be such a hypocrite? The overwhelming majority of these people are extremely progressive. I work in the industry and it is by far the most progressive and liberal of any I have ever worked in. The reality is that progressives are better educated and smarter than conservatives and that is especially true when it comes to Drumpf supporters.

    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    OK it's all a bit vague, but never mind.


    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    food stamps for the 50 million or so that depend on the state handouts.....and always vote Democrat.
    Sorry pal but you are way off here. I would say that a very large portion of Drumpf supporters are on food stamps and other public assistance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub
    The reality is that progressives are better educated and smarter than conservatives and that is especially true when it comes to Drumpf supporters.
    That is precisely the kind of self serving arrogant shit that got the Donald elected.... and the kind of attitude that leads to bitter conflict and worse.....

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    ^ No what got Donald elected was the fact that liberals did not show up to vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    ^ No what got Donald elected was the fact that liberals did not show up to vote.
    Indeed, so clever of them. Meanwhile those much less intelligent and non-progressive "red necks" did show up..... what do these progressive Liberals of yours think elections are for?...do they imagine that they have some kind of entitlement to govern, so they don't need to actually participate?

    Now they would like us to believe that the Donald won because of the Russians, fake news sites, inequities in the voting system, faulty voting machines, or Mars not being in conjunction with Venus on election day......

    Two inadequate candidates fighting a horrible nasty campaign; mostly over non-issues, but in the end it was the circus clown that prevailed over the well established, very tainted and widely despised old Washington insider, because your highly intellectual Liberals did not think there was any real threat to their status-quo candidate, I assume.....well done libtards...

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    ^ I really love how you have these debates with yourself koman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    ^ I really love how you have these debates with yourself koman.
    I was just having some fun (you do know about fun don't you?) with Snubbie......are you feeling a bit left out...

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    ^No, I'm enjoying your exchange. Cheers.

    When I have fun I get threats. I think us libtards are outnumbered.

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    Bill Gates says Trump has the opportunity to be like JFK


    Bill Gates Bill Gates: Trump has a chance to lead through innovation


    Tuesday, 13 Dec 2016 | 10:33 AM ET | 00:56
    President-elect Donald Trump has an opportunity to establish "American leadership through innovation," Bill Gates told CNBC on Tuesday.

    "A lot of his message has been about ... where he sees things not as good as he'd like," the billionaire Microsoft co-founder said on "Squawk Box."

    "But in the same way President Kennedy talked about the space mission and got the country behind that," Gates continued, "I think whether it's education or stopping epidemics ... [or] in this energy space, there can be a very upbeat message that [Trump's] administration [is] going to organize things, get rid of regulatory barriers, and have American leadership through innovation."......



    After talking with Trump, Bill Gates likens president-elect to JFK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    So koman, you think a guy with no background in science and was a 'D' student in science is a good choice to head the Department of Energy a department that requires a technical grasp on the issues? A department traditionally led by people with phds in physics.
    since when heads of department have any significant technical knowledge on the department they govern ? they never did, it's a political seat, all you do is manage problems and political issues, technical considerations is the least of their concern,

    Same in France, and our great leader, DeGaulles, is on record saying that a good minister is someone who know nothing on the ministry he is assigned to. So they aren't tainted with their experience and prejudice.

    See, Trump cabinet is going to be fantastic. He might actually accomplish some meaningful change for once, and proved how incompetent all those former administration were

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Chuchok View Post
    Bill Gates says Trump has the opportunity to be like JFK
    Just hope that the assasination doesn't take over 2 years like it did for JFK

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    Quote Originally Posted by TizMe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Little Chuchok View Post
    Bill Gates says Trump has the opportunity to be like JFK
    Just hope that the assasination doesn't take over 2 years like it did for JFK

    How charmingly Clintonesque!

    Do you inconsolable retards even realize what you are saying?

    Really a sad thing to watch....

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    Jesus this bloke is like a retarded kid. He really hasn't got a fucking clue.


    The Chinese government said Saturday it will return a U.S. naval drone seized last week in the South China Sea, a step toward defusing maritime tensions between the two Pacific powers.

    President-elect Donald Trump reacted to the news by telling them he doesn’t want it back. “We should tell China that we don’t want the drone they stole back.- let them keep it!” he tweeted Saturday evening.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.8f0229c6c184

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    so what should he say ?

    they probably took it to bits to copy it and broken it anyway

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    Well there's nothing like saying I don't care that you have my toy, because I have lots more that that one which are newer and smarter than that old toy you now have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Jesus this bloke is like a retarded kid. He really hasn't got a fucking clue.


    The Chinese government said Saturday it will return a U.S. naval drone seized last week in the South China Sea, a step toward defusing maritime tensions between the two Pacific powers.

    President-elect Donald Trump reacted to the news by telling them he doesn’t want it back. “We should tell China that we don’t want the drone they stole back.- let them keep it!” he tweeted Saturday evening.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.8f0229c6c184

    Apparently you still have not the foggiest clue how Trump managed to win the election.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    It has has a much higher success rate in Dem controlled states than Rethug controlled states.
    I can say that this isn't the story in Arizona. It wasn't partisan politics that killed Obamacare. We had something like 8 carriers in my county last year, this year we have one. All the others went out of business and that had to do with mostly sick people signing up for these plans. The entire idea of young people subsidizing insurance for old sick people is fundamentally flawed. It totally misunderstands how humans think and operate, and that will ultimately be this law's undoing. There are canaries in the coal mine on this law, and sadly I am living in the biggest mine.

    Also much like others who have even a moderately successful year financially, I have no access to subsidies to help bear the burden of these cartoonishly absurd premiums. Nor can I afford to pay a penalty of thousands of dollars.


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    This problem has become such that I am actually thinking about signing up for a healthcare sharing ministry in order to qualify for an exemption from the penalty.

    This is basically a plan where you ask other people to "pray" about whether they should cover your healthcare costs when another member gets sick.. You pay a premium of something like 50 bucks a month, and when you get sick you ask the sharing ministry to pay for your bills. Nothing is guaranteed, but the reviews are actually pretty good on what these organizations will do for you.

    Yep, that's where my life is at right now when it comes to healthcare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redhaze
    The entire idea of young people subsidizing insurance for old sick people is fundamentally flawed.
    It seems you are ignoring the fundamental concept of "insurance".
    It only works when there is a pool of non-takers which fund those who use it, much like motor vehicle insurance.

    If people only insure their car after they wreck it then of course the system will collapse but if having insurance is a prerequisite to getting on the road it works pretty well. That is the argument.
    Quote Originally Posted by redhaze
    This problem has become such that I am actually thinking about signing up for a healthcare sharing ministry in order to qualify for an exemption from the penalty.
    So "single payer" then? Because that is essentially what you described (minus the useless prayer part), which as Koman explained upthread works so well in Soviet Canuckistan and pretty much what the civilised world uses to fund healthcare for the citizenry.

    When the GOP rips the rug out from under the ACA it *might* prompt America to do something about the ridiculous insurance industry system you suffer from now which does anything it can to avoid insuring you.
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    It seems you are ignoring the fundamental concept of "insurance".
    It only works when there is a pool of non-takers which fund those who use it, much like motor vehicle insurance.

    If people only insure their car after they wreck it then of course the system will collapse but if having insurance is a prerequisite to getting on the road it works pretty well. That is the argument.
    No, the analogy doesn't make sense. Car accidents are randomly distributed, can happen to anyone at any time even if you are a great driver. Health problems....not the same. Age, lifestyle, etc. all make huge contributions to whether you will ultimately use insurance (and whether you want to pay for it).

    Auto insurance people use at any age, health insurance not so much. Auto insurance is also primarily designed to protect others (eg liability only coverage being the mandatory aspect). Auto insurance is also relatively affordable, tons of competition in that marketplace. I could go on and on. The two types of insurance aren't comparable, and the motivation for signing up for them isn't the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by slackula
    So "single payer" then?
    Yes
    Last edited by redhaze; 19-12-2016 at 05:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redhaze
    The entire idea of young people subsidizing insurance for old sick people is fundamentally flawed
    I guess you're feeling cheated. Unfortunately that's how it works. I paid hundreds in every month to my plans which also received contributions from my employers. I never had any illness until later in life.
    Maybe you should just buy lottery tickets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    I guess you're feeling cheated.
    Do you think that my wife and I paying $820 a month for insurance we can't use is reasonable or fair? Honest question.

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