Thread: President Donald Trump

Way up North...

Brave people... I'd take the lot of them over the mealy mouth Republican cowards in the house and senate.

^ off topic - but, the line is long. Take a ticket and get in line - Wait time is greater than five years - yup, gotta whole lot of folks that joined the queue before you.

The average wait for all preference immigrants grew from about 2 years and 10 months in 1991 to about 5 years and 8 months in 2018 — a 97 percent increase. Overall wait times for immigrants have grown much longer over the past three decades.Jun 18, 2019

Originally Posted by bowie

Wassa matta - strike a nerve did I?

Your "passion" is, well, a bit odd. You do realize the impact your posts have on the broad base of American voters who monitor this website for political direction. You just might sway one or two votes. But, I certainly wouldn't bet on it.

So Be It.

Lighten up snowflake, he's a "World" leader, so anyone can comment on the inept, corrupt piece of shit.

The Democrats have Trump to thank for their existential collapse.

JANET DALEY
8 FEBRUARY 2020 • 1:00PM


Last week, the Democratic party managed to appear, by turns, laughably incompetent, incorrigibly pompous, irresponsibly petulant, and tactically clueless. That’s quite a record.

They do, of course, have a plausible explanation for this derangement. They are faced with a phenomenon that no sane, grown-up American politician ever expected to encounter. As Donald Trump unforgettably demonstrated in his address to the nation last Thursday (not a press conference, as he made clear, but a “celebration” of his impeachment acquittal), this is not political life as we have known it.

If anybody is to have a chance of countering - or even surviving - this new thing that has replaced traditional democratic culture, an entirely different way of relating to the country will be necessary.

What should have begun in Iowa was the re-emergence of the Democrats: they would, at last, be the top line of the broadcast news. From now on, all the drama and suspense would be with them. So what happened? They are the top news story for all the wrong reasons.


OK – so it was a technical glitch. But it looked unforgivably amateurish in a country that prizes professionalism very highly. (If you can’t run a primary, how can you expect to run a country?) Even worse, it seemed somehow in keeping with the shambolic contradictions of their candidates’ positions.

Can somebody tell me – are they a socialist party now (Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren)? Or traditional Democrats with blue collar roots (Joe Biden)? Or new centrists with a dash of identity politics (Pete Buttigieg)? Do they want to go back to the old assumptions about America being a moderate country with infinite respect for its institutions? Or spring into Leftwing radicalism with socialised healthcare and wealth redistribution which would have been unthinkable from a mainstream party not very long ago?

In truth, it is not just the advent of Trump that has brought about this existential collapse. Any Republican who had defeated Hillary Clinton and her version of what the Democratic party stood for, would have had almost as devastating an effect because it was the decision to discard the old loyalties to what my parents’ generation used to call “the little people” that was at the heart of it.

To base your message on an appeal to that tiny proportion of highly qualified, privileged women who are determined to break “glass ceilings” when the women of the Rust Belt are worrying about putting food on the table...


But we know all this now. And the Democrats know it too. They just don’t know what to do instead. What do you say to people whose industries have gone and whose hopes for a better future – which was once the great American birthright – have been trashed? You say what Trump says: we’ll bring the jobs home by fighting the dirtiest trade war imaginable against the countries that have stolen them. Or what? The Democrats clearly have no persuasive alternative to this or they would use it, wouldn’t they?

The traditional voters who have deserted them assume that either there is no other answer, or that the party that once represented their concerns isn’t interested in them anymore: that it has found a new home with metropolitan liberals who hold diversity and the rights of minorities to be more important than finding a solution to the terrifying consequences of post-industrialisation.

But even with that said, there is something uniquely impossible to grapple with in the Trump ascendancy. What he has done is nothing less than make the currency of democratic politics redundant. What was on display last Thursday in his vindictive diatribe against everybody who had ever dared to challenge him was a quintessential example of the new dispensation under which all presidential hopefuls must operate.

Democracy used to be about argument – that was the essence of it. Proponents of differing ideas and convictions competed with one another for the support of the electors who (in theory) considered the worth of the various proposals and chose between them. Lots of other stuff came into this, of course: inherited loyalties (many people who lived through the Depression would never have voted for any party other than the one that had been led by Franklin Roosevelt), specialised interests (the gun lobby), or local economic concerns (farming, mining).


In spite of all that, there was at the core of the process, the idea that voters could be persuaded to change their minds through evidence and debate. As an individual, over the course of an election campaign – and even more often, over the course of a lifetime – one could re-assess one’s political position.

I went on precisely such a journey myself, when life experience moved me from the Marxist Left to the free market Right. I simply decided that the former led to authoritarianism and shared poverty, while the latter was conducive to mass prosperity and individual freedom. Shifts are not always quite so cataclysmic: you don’t have to decide that you were wrong all along before, just that this moment and these circumstances demand a different answer. This happens to electorates all the time in a healthy, mature democracy.

Between them, both Donald Trump’s personality cult and Hillary Clinton’s identity politics have undermined this. Trump has done it in the most obvious way by playing the demagogue’s game: only he personally can save the country with his inimitable gift for “making deals” and destroying rivals as he did in business. Forget about theories and principles: it’s all about how the leader handles his relationships with other leaders. Hillary’s identity pitch is less clearly sinister but it comes to the same end.

Politics isn’t about what you believe: it’s about what you are. I could decide to stop being Marxist, but I can’t decide to stop being white. Arguments and debate are out. Blind trust in the Leader, or mystical identification with a tribe are in. Either way, it’s the end of the Age of Reason.

The Democrats have Trump to thank for their existential collapse

bitching about how unfair life is and how trump is a moron and so is anyone who dare say anything positive about him will never turn things over.

The traditional voters who have deserted them assume that either there is no other answer, or that the party that once represented their concerns isn’t interested in them anymore: that it has found a new home with metropolitan liberals who hold diversity and the rights of minorities to be more important than finding a solution to the terrifying consequences of post-industrialisation.

doing something about ^ though might because liberal socialism has never solved any problem, ever.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

not as dumb as the loons who thought impeaching him would lead to his removal

The stupidity was in believing they could find more than one Republican senator who wasn’t a sniveling, spineless, coward.

As an impartial bystander i have to say that Pelosi ripping up Trumps speech was more a reflection of how ineffectual the system is given the farce acted out over the impeachment. Perhaps its time to tweak things so there is a way to hold the unaccountable to account in future. Trouble is i can see the same impasse acted out if this were attempted.

Originally Posted by baldrick

he has just executively appropriated 7.2 billion for his wall from some budget - his strategists will have identified the wall as a lie that will bite him

He is telling his voters, that something is being done, and "something"IS being done

Originally Posted by beachbound

When our roads and bridges are crumbling beneath our feet, when our healthcare system is for shit, when our public education system ranks 27th in the world, when our cities are overrun with homeless, spending 45 billion on a fucking wall,
is one fucking dumb idea.

Ofcourse it's stupid,but it's migration politics

Your infrastructure sucks ? Trump will fix it

Btw: all your talking sense, will lose you the election again

Originally Posted by beachbound

The majority of illegal aliens in America made it through legal ports of entry, so unless you’re going to build a wall around the airports

That's not so good

Originally Posted by bowie

Imagine that - Trump, the American president has amassed 1000 pages of gossip on a Brit Born Thailand based anonymous Internet forum...

I only 'follow' Trump because the US Stock Market has such influence in the broader World Stock Market.

Just trying to grow my meagre stack of coin before I retire in a couple of decades.

I'm waiting to see how he goes after Romney.

Originally Posted by Cujo

I'm waiting to see how he goes after Romney.

He already has. He went after him at the prayer breakfast,... Don Jr called him a “pussy” on Twitter, and called for his expulsion from the GOP.

could the bar get any lower?

Originally Posted by beachbound

He already has. He went after him at the prayer breakfast,... Don Jr called him a “pussy” on Twitter, and called for his expulsion from the GOP.

could the bar get any lower?

Sadly, yes.

Jeez the usual tossers,still crying over the best President the former colony has ever had.Even though it doesn't effect them in anyway,saying that does it even effect the Few American expats that reside in Thailand

Originally Posted by Chico

Jeez the usual tossers,still crying over the best President the former colony has ever had.Even though it doesn't effect them in anyway,saying that does it even effect the Few American expats that reside in Thailand

The absolute state of this. ^

Where do you start?

Originally Posted by bowie

No Chico, it doesn't effect me in anyway. Long ago realized that the politicos are in the game for personal gain - and naught more. Although quite possible that they did, at first, desire to help the American people, after tasting the monetary benefits they quickly fall in line with the machine.

Trump stood them all on their ears. An outsider with NO political history should never have been able to unseat the old boys network, he soundly defeated both the Bush and Clinton dynasties. Shouldn't have happened in any way, shape, manner or form, yet, He Did It. Ya, know - "Just Do It" and, damn, he did.

Aww, but he didn't win the popular vote - yea, but he sits in the White House - popular vote be damned. He Won. The game has rules and he read the rule book.

Remember - it just ain't gonna happen. Well, the results speak for themselves...

Trumptard Rationale: 'It's OK to have some who is morally bankrupt, corrupt, and unfit for office in power because he won by a minority... Being white and male helps too'

Duty to protect the Constitution?

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There is a Winner,
and, well, a loser

One sits in the White House

God Bless America,for voting for a president,who wants his country to be great again.

Trump Administration Accomplishments

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• Almost 4 million jobs created since election.
• More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
• We have created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since my election.
• Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.
• Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.
• New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.
• Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.
• African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
• Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
• Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
• Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
• Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
• Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
• Under my Administration, veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.
• Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.
• The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans. We are committed to VOCATIONAL education.
• 95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever.
• Retail sales surged last month, up another 6 percent over last year.
• Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.
• As a result of our tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.
• Helped win U.S. bid for the 2028 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles.
• Helped win U.S.-Mexico-Canada’s united bid for 2026 World Cup.
• Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.
• Record number of regulations eliminated.
• Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.
• Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.
• My Administration is providing more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans.
• Last month, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. And thanks to our efforts, many drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases.
• We reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars this year alone.
• Signed Right-To-Try legislation.
• Secured $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic.
• We have reduced high-dose opioid prescriptions by 16 percent during my first year in office.
• Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.
• Increased our coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high.
• United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.
• Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.
• Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.
• Secured record $700 billion in military funding; $716 billion next year.
• NATO allies are spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016.
• Process has begun to make the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces.
• Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.
• Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
• Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.
• Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
• Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.
• Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.
• Concluded a historic U.S.-Mexico Trade Deal to replace NAFTA. And negotiations with Canada are underway as we speak.
• Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.
• Imposed tariffs on foreign steel and aluminum to protect our national security.
• Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices.
• Net exports are on track to increase by $59 billion this year.
• Improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement.
• We have begun BUILDING THE WALL. Republicans want STRONG BORDERS and NO CRIME. Democrats want OPEN BORDERS which equals MASSIVE CRIME.

Trumptard Rationale: 'It's OK to have some who is morally bankrupt, corrupt, and unfit for office in power because he won by a minority... Being white and male helps too'

Q.E.D.

Originally Posted by bowie

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There is a Winner,
and, well, a loser

One sits in the White House

Bsnub, Instead of sending red repo,and informing me that most of Don's achievements are bullshit, how about you post up his bullshit rather than sending silly comments?

Look at the Betting odds on a Trump election win going more in his favour the screaming queen dems,will have to be pulling rabbits out of there hats.

Though no doubt you and your cronies,will be posting the American public are stupid and dividing your country even more.

The establishment is now being broken in both are countries.

You should all be working together,for future generations,before the Chinese take over.

Originally Posted by Chico

Bsnub, Instead of sending red repo,and informing me that most of Don's achievements are bullshit, how about you post up his bullshit rather than sending silly comments?

You posted up his bullshit when you posted that inane list of "accomplishments".

You sort of forgot things like destroying the EPA and Financial regulation, leading to toxic dumping and toxic deficits, to name but two.

Chico - that's truly a fine list of accomplishments. Figure about 90 percent will be talking points in the pro-Trump election adverts. Yup - Four More Years.

The killer is the DJIA and Unemployment - 'course, being the Incumbent means he's gonna get ALL the blame.