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    some data showing population change in th US from 2010 to 2018 - picture is too big to load so open link

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    Trump's holiday menu: handouts for billionaires, hunger for the poor

    Merry Christmas. Let them eat cake!

    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-rashida-tlaib

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Trump's holiday menu: handouts for billionaires, hunger for the poor
    Why his underlings in Congress, govt and the Pentahouse let him do such ugly things to the population?

    Or is this the reason why they want to have him out? And then, once they will rid of him they will make it good to us all again, as it was before his mean and criminal governance...

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    Klon... You have finally come around. Also, Don't forget those 8000 some children separated at the border. I wonder how they are feeling on Christmas morning.

    At any rate, the republicans have their own mean agenda which is to strip out as much democracy as possible. This snip from one of Bsnub's posts sums it up well:

    ".....They’ve already cut taxes for the wealthy and driven the budget into a hole. They’ve packed the federal courts with the simpering incompetent children of the Republican conservative “revolution” and jammed two yes-men punks onto the Supreme Court in a pure exercise of rank political power. If Trump is re-elected, they’ll strip-mine Social Security, murder Medicare and shred the social safety net, and they won’t stop there. Even as the dead bodies from one mass killing after another pile up in the schools, churches, streets and shopping malls, they’ll remove the few controls states have been able to put on gun ownership. They will turn voting into more of an exercise in futility than it already is. They’ll commit every crime they can to nullify the demographic changes that are on the horizon before new voters will have a chance to save us. "



    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Why his underlings in Congress, govt and the Pentahouse let him do such ugly things to the population?

    Or is this the reason why they want to have him out? And then, once they will rid of him they will make it good to us all again, as it was before his mean and criminal governance...
    Press On Regardless

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    Quote Originally Posted by thailazer View Post
    Klon... You have finally come around. Also, Don't forget those 8000 some children separated at the border. I wonder how they are feeling on Christmas morning.
    Yeh, haven't I said, he is the one who does all the malice to his country and the whole world?

    Why not to get anybody else? And Eureka, suddenly everything will be wonderful, won't be? (no kids on the border, no piling of bodies in schools, churches, social security and medicare o-la-la...)

    And furthermore: no wars...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thailazer View Post
    Klon... You have finally come around. Also, Don't forget those 8000 some children separated at the border. I wonder how they are feeling on Christmas morning.

    At any rate, the republicans have their own mean agenda which is to strip out as much democracy as possible. This snip from one of Bsnub's posts sums it up well:

    ".....They’ve already cut taxes for the wealthy and driven the budget into a hole. They’ve packed the federal courts with the simpering incompetent children of the Republican conservative “revolution” and jammed two yes-men punks onto the Supreme Court in a pure exercise of rank political power. If Trump is re-elected, they’ll strip-mine Social Security, murder Medicare and shred the social safety net, and they won’t stop there. Even as the dead bodies from one mass killing after another pile up in the schools, churches, streets and shopping malls, they’ll remove the few controls states have been able to put on gun ownership. They will turn voting into more of an exercise in futility than it already is. They’ll commit every crime they can to nullify the demographic changes that are on the horizon before new voters will have a chance to save us. "
    You forgot abortion.

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    So apparently they are having problems solving Trumpanzee murders. All the DNA is the same and there are no dental records.

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    Once again showing a glaring incompetence. The retards on the right like bowie will try to stand up for this complete moron. Just a national disgrace.

    Keep in mind these missile strikes were very gracious because they have fine tuned short range ballistic missiles that can put a missile on a pinhead. So they basically just sent a message. If they wanted to wipe out Americans they could have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Keep in mind these missile strikes were very gracious because they have fine tuned short range ballistic missiles that can put a missile on a pinhead. So they basically just sent a message.
    very gracious

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Once again showing a glaring incompetence. The retards on the right like bowie will try to stand up for this complete moron. Just a national disgrace.

    Keep in mind these missile strikes were very gracious because they have fine tuned short range ballistic missiles that can put a missile on a pinhead. So they basically just sent a message. If they wanted to wipe out Americans they could have.
    Don't be fucking silly snubby, they couldn't hit a cow's arse with a handful of rice.

    Any sign of a proper missile being fueled and I'll hear the bangs from here.


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    Typical Snubby retarded rubbish.

    The Rag heads know that if their missile hit the spot and killed a heap of Seppos The Donald would of popped his load and really got serious.

    Dumb Septic fuk Snubby.

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    Don't forget the propaganda out of U.S during the Gulf war was saying that they intercepted all the scuds sent towards Riyadh.

    The truth proved to be much different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Once again showing a glaring incompetence. The retards on the right like bowie will try to stand up for this complete moron. Just a national disgrace.

    Keep in mind these missile strikes were very gracious because they have fine tuned short range ballistic missiles that can put a missile on a pinhead. So they basically just sent a message. If they wanted to wipe out Americans they could have.
    Some reports of a second wave. can't see anything from a creditable news source I know, so not sure how valid it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TizMe View Post
    Don't forget the propaganda out of U.S during the Gulf war was saying that they intercepted all the scuds sent towards Riyadh.

    The truth proved to be much different.
    No they didn't, they said the Patriots missiles were 80% effective and revised that to 70% (less for Israel).

    It was in use for the first time, so it doesn't surprise me.

    They wouldn't even use Patriots for these little fireworks anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    Some reports of a second wave. can't see anything from a creditable news source I know, so not sure how valid it is.
    Is it from the same source that said they killed 80 Americans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    No they didn't, they said the Patriots missiles were 80% effective and revised that to 70% (less for Israel).

    It was in use for the first time, so it doesn't surprise me.

    They wouldn't even use Patriots for these little fireworks anyway.
    On February 15, 1991, President George H. W. Bush traveled to Raytheon's Patriot manufacturing plant in Andover, Massachusetts, during the Gulf War, he declared, the "Patriot is 41 for 42: 42 Scuds engaged, 41 intercepted!" The President's claimed success rate was thus over 97% to that point in the war.

    My point was that you can't believe the propaganda. It seems like the "real" number is only 9%.
    Some of the "successful hits" turned out to be one patriot hitting another.

    The Patriot Missile. Performance in the Gulf War Reviewed

    After a 10-month investigation in 1992 by the House Government Operations Subcommittee on Legislation and National Security, the subcommittee concluded there was little evidence to prove the Patriot hit more than a few Scud missiles launched by Iraq.

    Another 1992 investigation done by the General Accounting Office found that only 9 percent of the Patriot-Scud engagements "are supported by the strongest evidence that an engagement resulted in a warhead kill." (The GAO defined "the strongest evidence" as instances in which Scud debris or radar data indicated that a Scud was destroyed or disabled after a Patriot detonated near it.) Except in 9 percent of the cases, the GAO report said the Army could prove only that "the Patriots came close to the Scuds, not that they destroyed them."


    Both reports, as well as studies by analysts (in particular MIT scientists George N. Lewis and Theodore A. Postol) concluded that Gulf War television pictures showing Patriots chasing Scuds were misleading. The television images didn't fully reflect that a number of the Patriots were just wounding Scuds or pushing them off course; big chunks of both missiles then fell to the ground. In Israel, the amount of damages and casualties increased after the Patriots were deployed there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    No they didn't, they said the Patriots missiles were 80% effective and revised that to 70% (less for Israel).

    It was in use for the first time, so it doesn't surprise me.

    They wouldn't even use Patriots for these little fireworks anyway.
    the actual truth was that it was less than 50%, but as usual, you fall for the usual stupid propaganda

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Don't be fucking silly snubby, they couldn't hit a cow's arse with a handful of rice.
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    Typical Snubby retarded rubbish.
    Rigght...

    Satellite photos taken Wednesday show that an Iranian missile strike has caused extensive damage at the Ain al-Assad air base in Iraq, which hosts U.S. and coalition troops.
    At least five structures were damaged in the attack on the base in Anbar province, which apparently was precise enough to hit individual buildings. "Some of the locations struck look like the missiles hit dead center," says David Schmerler, an analyst with the Middlebury Institute.
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    President Donald Trump-ain-assad-1_wide-18d0e8e8422d5db24499246913ce7cf02e2c0720-s1200-c15

    The Qiam-1 missile is a single stage, liquid-fueled, short-range ballistic missile developed by Iran with a range of up to 500 miles, according to the Center for Strategic & International Studies' Missile Defense Project. It is capable of carrying a 1,650-pound warhead and has a precision guidance system that can be redirected during flight.
    Iran Missile Attack: Satellite Images Show Damage From Apparent Precision Strike : NPR

    A couple of clueless bastards. But I am the idiot.

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    That's because they lobbed a fucking shoal of them you dummy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TizMe View Post
    On February 15, 1991, President George H. W. Bush traveled to Raytheon's Patriot manufacturing plant in Andover, Massachusetts, during the Gulf War, he declared, the "Patriot is 41 for 42: 42 Scuds engaged, 41 intercepted!" The President's claimed success rate was thus over 97% to that point in the war.

    My point was that you can't believe the propaganda. It seems like the "real" number is only 9%.
    Some of the "successful hits" turned out to be one patriot hitting another.

    The Patriot Missile. Performance in the Gulf War Reviewed

    After a 10-month investigation in 1992 by the House Government Operations Subcommittee on Legislation and National Security, the subcommittee concluded there was little evidence to prove the Patriot hit more than a few Scud missiles launched by Iraq.

    Another 1992 investigation done by the General Accounting Office found that only 9 percent of the Patriot-Scud engagements "are supported by the strongest evidence that an engagement resulted in a warhead kill." (The GAO defined "the strongest evidence" as instances in which Scud debris or radar data indicated that a Scud was destroyed or disabled after a Patriot detonated near it.) Except in 9 percent of the cases, the GAO report said the Army could prove only that "the Patriots came close to the Scuds, not that they destroyed them."


    Both reports, as well as studies by analysts (in particular MIT scientists George N. Lewis and Theodore A. Postol) concluded that Gulf War television pictures showing Patriots chasing Scuds were misleading. The television images didn't fully reflect that a number of the Patriots were just wounding Scuds or pushing them off course; big chunks of both missiles then fell to the ground. In Israel, the amount of damages and casualties increased after the Patriots were deployed there.

    So you posted material from the GAO saying "Data Does Not Exist to Conclusively Say How Well Patriot Performed -- Report by General Accounting Office, September 1992, B-250335." and use that to try and say it is conclusive? Mind you, Bush is a different story, and no-one that I know said they were 41/42.

    The Patriot wasn't designed to incinerate incoming missiles, but to stop them reaching their targets.

    Now admittedly half the time the fucking things were useless, but I used to get a call when they started a lorry in Iraq, because they alerted on every heat signature, and the rough figures I quoted are approximately right. Saying it was unsuccessful because the missile came down in a populated area or bits landed on someone's head is a matter of opinion.

    As a military tool, the Patriot rendered Saddams scuds effectively useless.

    I have a piece of one somewhere, it came down a few km from my home at the time.

    It was headed for an airbase south of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    That's because they lobbed a fucking shoal of them you dummy.
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    The base was cleared already but snubby thinks the lack of casualties is a precision bombing ... that's motor pool for you.

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    Agree, Iran could pinpoint these missiles and Trump has warned Iran, step out of line you will get it, that is why
    they didnt hurt anyone, also, Iran gave them USA plenty of warning as to what they would hit, no one hurt, nothing really damaged of importance, no retaliation.
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