Thread: President Donald Trump

Well the Republicans were bitching about closed-door impeachment sessions. Looks like the stupid fuckers have got their way.

The U.S. House of Representatives took a major step in the impeachment effort against U.S. President Donald Trump on Thursday when lawmakers approved rules for the next stage of the Democratic-led inquiry into the president's attempt to have Ukraine investigate a domestic political rival.

The Democratic-controlled House voted by 232 to 196 to establish how to hold public hearings in Congress, which could be damaging for Trump ahead of the 2020 presidential election.

https://www.mtv.com.lb/en/News/International/984022/Trump_impeachment_effort_passes_first_test_of_supp ort_in_US_Congress

Originally Posted by panama hat

They should know that it won't pass the senate

Which is precisely why the Republicans are shitting themselves. If it is indisputable that they are blatantly ignoring clear evidence of crimes (and I use the plural deliberately), that will get undecided voters off their arses.

"Restore Torture"? Has it been abandoned by some of his predecessors?

"Execute The Whistleblower"? (same same)

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Bush: 'We do not torture' terror suspects

PANAMA CITY, Panama — President Bush on Monday defended U.S. interrogation practices and called the treatment of terrorism suspects lawful. “We do not torture,” Bush declared in response to reports of secret CIA prisons overseas.

Bush supported an effort spearheaded by Vice President Dick Cheney to block or modify a proposed Senate-passed ban on torture.

“We’re working with Congress to make sure that as we go forward, we make it possible, more possible, to do our job,” Bush said. “There’s an enemy that lurks and plots and plans and wants to hurt America again. And so, you bet we will aggressively pursue them. But we will do so under the law.”

Cheney is seeking to persuade Congress to exempt the Central Intelligence Agency from the proposed torture ban if one is passed by both chambers.

Bush: ?We do not torture? terror suspects - US news - Security | NBC News

The repubtards complained about the hearings being held in private but I have a feeling it might backfire on them being held in public.

There's always a tweet! Always!!

trump went to last night's UFC fights....and like his appearance at the world series, it didn't go well...




you'll notice dana white had his staff turn up the volume on the AC/DC when the booing becomes obvious

One of his idiot sons of course is trying to deny it by quoting Murdoch's rag the New York Post.

Twat.

that Trump speech was legendary

deserves an Oscar

I found this to be interesting

SCOTUS here we come...

NEW YORK (AP) — President Donald Trump’s tax returns can be turned over to state criminal investigators by his personal accountant, a federal appeals court in New York ruled Monday.

The ruling by the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals is certain to be further appealed; lawyers for the president promised to do so and the three-judge appeals panel predicted it.

In the written decision, the judges said they only decided whether a state prosecutor can demand Trump’s personal financial records while the president is in office. The appeals court said it did not consider whether the president is immune from indictment and prosecution while in office or whether the president may be ordered to produce documents in a state criminal proceeding.

“We hold that any presidential immunity from state criminal process does not bar the enforcement of such a subpoena,” the 2nd Circuit Chief Judge Robert A. Katzmann wrote.

The decision upholds a lower-court ruling rejecting Trump’s lawsuit seeking to block his accountant from letting a grand jury see his tax records from 2011.

Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance Jr. sought the records in a broader probe that includes payments made to buy the silence of two women, porn star Stormy Daniels and model Karen McDougal, who claim they had affairs with the president before the 2016 presidential election. Trump has denied them.

Danny Frost, a spokesman for Vance, declined comment.

The lawyer who argued the case on Trump’s behalf before the appeals court did not immediately respond to a message seeking comment.

The U.S. Supreme Court will likely have the last word on whether Trump can shield himself from Vance’s efforts to explore the president’s financial records since 2011, including his tax returns.

Trump’s lawyer told the three-judge appeals panel this month that Trump is immune from state criminal law even if he shoots someone because he’s president.

Vance’s attorneys have argued that Trump is not above the law while the president’s lawyers have said the Constitution prohibits states from subjecting the U.S. president to criminal process while he is in office.

Vance’s lawyers have said in court papers that the records being sought relate to business and financial matters rather than official acts by Trump and primarily stem from the time period before he became president.

In the subpoena to Trump’s longtime accountant, Vance’s lawyers call for financial and tax records of entities and individuals, including Trump, who engaged in business transactions in Manhattan.

Trump’s lawyers have said the probe by Vance, a Democrat, is politically motivated.

U.S. Justice Department lawyers in Washington also urged the 2nd Circuit to reverse the findings of the lower court, saying Vance must prove “particularized need” for the records before they are released to a grand jury.

Vance’s investigation comes as the president faces impeachment hearings initiated by House Democrats after the president tried to get Ukraine’s leader to investigate his political rival Joe Biden.

https://apnews.com/dabe6ccc29a44028b52dc77fd51e9efd

I think trump is finding out that he's not a king but a president.

Good article is here


Credit

Originally Posted by elche

The fact that 40% of the voting population of the US still support this villain says one thing to me: the US is in some measure a rogue state. If it turns on itself, it won't bother me.

The evangelical nut jobs who also want the world to end, so Jesus comes back and takes them all heaven vote for him in the droves.

Exit polls show white evangelical voters voted in high numbers for Donald Trump, 80-16 percent, according to exit poll results. That’s the most they have voted for a Republican presidential candidate since 2004, when they overwhelmingly chose President George W. Bush by a margin of 78-21 percent. Their support for Trump will likely be seen as part of the reason the GOP candidate performed unexpectedly well in Tuesday’s election, according to Five Thirty Eight.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-donald-trump/

kudo to Trump for pushing the laws to the limit

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Trump ethics is the very definition of an oxymoron....

The one thing I will never comprehend about Trumptards is how against all objective evidence to the contrary they still continue to insist the orange douchebag is some genius playing a game of three dimensional chess.

’...Trump is a dumb persons idea of a smart man’

Originally Posted by panama hat

It's not 'pushing ... to the limits', it's breaking

it's the POTUS, he can do whatever he wants, from illegal invasion, to ordering mass murder

he is the law, that's how the US systems work

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

it's the POTUS, he can do whatever he wants, from illegal invasion, to ordering mass murder

he is the law, that's how the US systems work

Not according to the latest court decision about his taxes.....

How fucking hilarious is that. And from Fox "News" no less.

Regarding Trump's request for a stay by the Supreme Court -- which would put the process on hold until the justices decide whether to hear the president's case -- Napolitano said that decision lies with Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg -- who is tasked with ruling on such requests from New York State.

Napolitano said Ginsburg can decide whether to allow Vance's subpoena against Trump's accounting firm, Mazars USA, can go forward while the Supreme Court makes their decision to hear the case or not.

He said the circuit court ruled presidential privileges do not apply because the subpoena seeks documents from before Trump entered office -- and the fact the documents would not come from him but from his accountants and therefore the subpoena would not interfere with White House business.