Thread: President Donald Trump

Originally Posted by raycarey

except that no, he hasn't. not even close. what percentage of america do you think could identify the three of those women not named ocasio-cortez? i'd bet it's way under 10 and probably under 5. and you think they define the democratic party? maybe on foxnews they do for the time being...but not in the real world.

btw, it hasn't gone unnoticed that you haven't denounced trump or his racist statement. just slipped your mind, i suppose.

Well seeing as I'm a Brit and I could identify 3 out of the 4, I'm pretty sure more than 5% of Americans would be able to, maybe not the fried chicken eating lot with water melon smiles though, so guess you struggled.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

I could identify 3 out of the 4

and based on what you've posted and omitted.....do you consider whites to be superior to other races?

I’ve only been to the US once in 1982 but I got the impression that the yokels didn’t know much about the next county let alone the next state or country.
They wouldn’t know if flames ten feet long were shooting out of their arse unless they noticed that the curtains were on fire.
Nice people but very badly educated generally.

Originally Posted by docmartin

Nice people but very badly educated generally

...one unfortunate generalization after another...

Originally Posted by raycarey

and based on what you've posted and omitted.....do you consider whites to be superior to other races?

You calling BS on me identifying 3 out of the 4? Guess I'm just not as dumb as you although in fairness that is no great achievement. I consider myself superior to you but then again I'm pretty sure most others do to. Poor Ray only knew AOC and seems surprised even a Brit would know 3 out of the 4. Perhaps you are unaware of the media coverage they are given and their social media presence, do you live in a cave?

Originally Posted by docmartin

I got the impression that the yokels didn’t know much about the next county let alone the next state or country.

the majority of people in most districts don't know who their own congressperson is....much less someone representing a district in another state.

if after a few weeks or a month i put a photo of each of them in four different groups of 10 photos, only some people would be able to pick out AOC....and a handful of other would be able to identify omar......so to claim that somehow they're now the face of the democratic party is woefully stupid.

i'd bet most people in the US couldn't even identify pelosi, much less pressley

Originally Posted by raycarey

do you consider whites to be superior to other races?

but of course, that german guy said so

Originally Posted by buriramboy

You calling BS on me identifying 3 out of the 4?

yeah....

Originally Posted by raycarey

if after a few weeks or a month i put a photo of each of them in four different groups of 10 photos

Originally Posted by raycarey

the majority of people in most districts don't know who their own congressperson is....much less someone representing a district in another state.

Unfortunate - but very true. Most Americans not only don't know, they don't really care.

Originally Posted by raycarey

the majority of people in most districts don't know who their own congressperson is....much less someone representing a district in another state.

if after a few weeks or a month i put a photo of each of them in four different groups of 10 photos, only some people would be able to pick out AOC....and a handful of other would be able to identify omar......so to claim that somehow they're now the face of the democratic party is woefully stupid.

i'd bet most people in the US couldn't even identify pelosi, much less pressley

No one is claiming they are now the face of the Democrat party just that that is Trumps objective to make them so. And his comments will go some way to achieve this. Who do you think young progressive Dems more associate with the likes of Biden and Pelosi and their policies or the likes of AOC and Omar? You should probably stay away from political threads. And you're a Biden backer.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

No one is claiming they are now the face of the Democrat party

errrr....except you....an hour ago....

Originally Posted by buriramboy

he wants the 4 congress women he targeted at the front of the democratic party defining what the Democrat party stands for

Originally Posted by buriramboy

his comments will go some way to achieve this.

"some way"?
that's one hell of a walkback from...

Originally Posted by buriramboy

with a few simple words he has achieved that.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

You should probably stay away from political threads.

this is a little bit sad.....because all you've done with this sentence is reveal that you know that you're out of your depth....anyone reading this (whether they agree with me ideologically, or not) knows that i've forgotten more about US politics and policy than you could ever hope to learn in your remaining years.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

you're a Biden backer.

you can add this to long list of things you're wrong about.

july 15 2019, 5:00pm, the times
Trump is playing the Democrats at their own race game

melanie phillips

President’s hostile tweets turned his opponents’ obsession with identity politics against them

When I was a child, my mother and I were told in a supermarket to “go back where you came from”. This puzzled me greatly. My mother and I were born and bred in London. It was my first experience of anti-Jewish prejudice. The bigotry was unambiguous. Because our assailant perceived we were Jews, she was telling us we didn’t belong in Britain.

Now a storm has erupted in America over tweets by President Trump in which he apparently took aim at four young ethnic minority congresswomen: Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Ayanna Pressley. They are known as The Squad because of the way they operate as a far-left minority caucus.

For months, American politics has been convulsed over Trump’s attempts to stop illegal immigration across the Mexican border. In his tweet, Trump called out unnamed “progressives”, who “originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe”, for “loudly and viciously” telling America how its government should be run. “Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime-infested places from which they came?”

This language was undeniably offensive, unacceptable and — if he was indeed referring to all four women — factually wrong. Only Ilhan Omar, who was born in Somalia, is not native to America. For the other three, who are variously of Palestinian, Puerto Rican and African-American heritage, America is where they were born.

Trump may have been thinking particularly of Omar but tweeted with his customary disregard for detail. Even so, by any normal standards this was dismaying behaviour by a president. But this is not a normal president. He uses offensive language to speak in a kind of code to his supporters, and to set a trap for his foes who fail to understand the code and promptly fall into the snare.

This is precisely what has happened. The Democratic house speaker, Nancy Pelosi, said Trump’s tweet showed he’d always planned on “making America white again”.

No he hadn’t; nor had he been making a point in his tweet about race or colour. For his critics have omitted to note that, after telling these congresswomen to go and sort out their presumed countries of origin, he said: “Then come back and tell us how to do it.”

In other words, his point was about their behaviour, specifically their opposition to his “racist” immigration policy. Clearly, he considers this akin to treachery from politicians who, between them, have taken positions that are anti-American, anti-white and anti-Jewish. What’s more, he knows that millions of Americans will be thinking exactly the same thing.

Thus he further tweeted: “So sad to see the Democrats sticking up for people who speak so badly of our Country . . . Whenever confronted, they call their adversaries, including Nancy Pelosi, ‘RACIST’. Their disgusting language and the many terrible things they say about the United States must not be allowed to go unchallenged.”

Subsequently he doubled down again, asking: “When will the Radical Left Congresswomen apologise to our country . . . for the foul language they have used, and the terrible things they have said.”

It became plain that he was twisting the knife into the writhing body of the Democratic Party. He was using The Squad to ram home that the Democrats have been taken over by extremists. Indeed, for offensiveness it’s hard to beat Ocasio-Cortez, who called the US border detention centres “concentration camps”.

For bigotry, look no further than Omar, who has accused American Jews of dual loyalties and buying political influence in the interests of Israel. For anti-Americanism and playing the race card, there’s the support by Pressley and Tlaib for an article accusing the Declaration of Independence of being “sexist, racist and prejudiced”, not to mention Pressley’s own racially divisive remark that there’s “no need for black faces that don’t want to be a black voice”.

Now racial identity politics is consuming its own. Ocasio-Cortez has accused Nancy Pelosi of “singling out newly elected women of colour” simply because Pelosi finally lost patience with The Squad after they failed to vote last month for her border aid package.

Ocasio-Cortez’s chief of staff, Saikat Chakrabarti, accused Democrats who backed this bill of “being hell-bent to do to black and brown people today what the old Southern Democrats did in the Forties”. Yet he in turn was attacked by the House Democratic caucus over his claim that congresswoman Sharice Davids had voted in ways that “enable a racist system”. Raged the caucus: “Why is he explicitly singling out a Native American woman of colour?”

The Democratic Party is now being boiled alive by the very racial politics it has encouraged.

This is the pot that Trump is now deftly stirring. Every time he is called racist, his poll numbers climb among the millions who decode such attacks on him as un-American treachery by those who want to destroy border controls and thus the very concept of citizenship. The insult is also being used so indiscriminately it has all but lost its meaning as a description of truly evil intent.

Trump is a man who plays the political game by completely different rules. Those who refuse to understand this will lose not just the people’s vote but the moral high ground, too.

http://https://www.thetimes.co.uk/ed...game-3kl9nksdz

@melanielatest

he's a horrible person and president....but one thing he's skilled at is changing the story.....he doesn't care what he burns down or who he puts in jeopardy, trump can change the story like no one else if that's what's best for him.

guess what nobody is talking about anymore?

paedophile island.

It makes me laugh every time the turd polish comes out and someone tries to ascribe something Trump does in terms of being a Machiavellian grand 3D chess plan.

The man is a moron. The stupid man's idea of a smart man.

Originally Posted by docmartin

I’ve only been to the US once in 1982 but I got the impression that the yokels didn’t know much about the next county let alone the next state or country.
They wouldn’t know if flames ten feet long were shooting out of their arse unless they noticed that the curtains were on fire.
Nice people but very badly educated generally.

This comment says more about you and who you associated yourself with than it does about Americans in general. Did you come for a NASCAR event by chance?

No. It was the hillbilly olympics.

Here’s another generalisation - most of the people in the world know very little about political process and players.

Originally Posted by Humbert

Did you come for a NASCAR event by chance?

Originally Posted by docmartin

most of the people in the world know very little about political process and players

You are the living proof of that pearl of wisdom

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

It makes me laugh every time the turd polish comes out and someone tries to ascribe something Trump does in terms of being a Machiavellian grand 3D chess plan.

The man is a moron. The stupid man's idea of a smart man.

Precisely. Stories about paedophile island in the press are meaningless; they can't just go around randomly accusing people of crimes, hence the "he was on a plane with him" or "he went to a party". They usually die in a news cycle or two. Today's racist shit will be forgotten about in a week.

But if Epstein has video of baldy orange cunto raping a child and the feds get their hands on it, no amount of twattering will save him.

Originally Posted by Humbert

The hairbender has a good point though. Trump is attempting to move from the particular to the general with his attempt to smear Democrats as Socialists and Communists. The tactics of a demagogue that will fail spectacularly because most Americans have seen this all before and they will not fall for it.

They've been hammering AOC with the "socialist" tag since she got elected.

And they've been hammering Bernie with it since he declared last time.

It's nothing new.

The dumbasses that listen to it will vote baldy orange cunto whatever. He could call them Herpetologists and the trumpanzees would be all "Damn straight, goddamn herpetologists taking our jobs!".

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Guess I'm just not as dumb as you

Oh my Dunning Kruger strikes again.

Originally Posted by raycarey

guess what nobody is talking about anymore?

paedophile island.

"Who or what is talking about" is depending on who writes (and owns) the news.
Similarly, as here on TD (as you could notice recently...)

BTW, on Drudgereport you can find few today, not enough?

The 'Lady of the House' Who Was Long Entangled With Epstein...

How he groomed, abused his 'Number One girl'...

Kept diamonds, fake passport in safe...

Judge unseals Prince Andrew 'sex slave' documents...

Scandal explodes in Israel...

Ehud Barak: I Visited the Island...

Originally Posted by Humbert

Trump is attempting to move from the particular to the general with his attempt to smear Democrats as Socialists and Communists.

Dimwits like BB while have you convinced that the Nazis are not Fascist's but Commies. Imbeciles.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Dimwits like BB while have you convinced that the Nazis are not Fascist's but Commies. Imbeciles.

I'm convinced you're a lying retard and nothing you've posted in the last 10 years has changed that opinion. You figured out you're on a Thai based forum yet and why you're actually here or is that all a bit confusing?