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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    As it was worldwide. Trump is a master at creating photo ops
    But sadly as always it was self glorification. Not done for the benefit of anyone other than his own ego..

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    well, of course it was for his own self benefit, but at least it's going somewhere

    stupid Obama did fuck all, and was listening to the stupid propaganda from his generals

    how wrong he was, again!!!

    vive Trump, the POTUS who can deliver

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    If you lower the bar for Trump any further you'll be digging a ditch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Not done for the benefit of anyone other than his own ego..
    It's Trump so a given but in this case might pay off for more than just his ego. Will be 66 years in a couple weeks when this standoff began. Time for a different approach.

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    No missile testing, no rockets flying over Japan and even Elton John hasn't complained about Trump using the sarcastic phrase "Little Rocket Man"

    We should all be thankful he's not the trigger happy leader those crazy lefties claimed he was/is.

    Little Rocket man is not scary but Putin is but Trump is way too smart to put his hand in the dogs mouth to see if he bites he knows already what would happem

    So he gives him tit bits to keep him happy to avoid any future conflict and that's a strength not a weakness

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    vive Trump, the POTUS who can deliver
    He sure can, Trump on the summit: “I signed an agreement where we get everything, everything”

    Oh my bad that was the last summit in 2018 that achieved nothing despite Trump's claims it achieved everything!

    Sometimes it really does seem that his supporters are stuck in an abusive co-dependent relationship with him: he keeps lying; they keep believing him; when it becomes apparent he has lied yet again they still stick with him in the hopes that this time he will change and the next time will be different...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    What if anything comes of the meeting still debatable but time will tell.
    This guy sums up the exchange nicely...

    https://twitter.com/Robert_E_Kelly/s...-asia-48815700

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanlic View Post
    but Trump is way too smart to put his hand in the dogs mouth to see if he bites he knows already what would happem



    This clown made me think of this trumpanzee I just saw....



    The retardation is real amongst these trumpanzees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    It's Trump so a given but in this case might pay off for more than just his ego.
    how?

    kim, his father and his grandfather have been at this for decades, so there is no way in hell kim is just going to turn over his nuclear weapons and capability. in addition to the epic loss of face, he saw what happened to gaddafi.

    trump is getting played by kim.....just like past kims played past presidents....and on jan 19, 2021 we'll be in exactly the same place we were on jan 19, 2017.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post



    The retardation is real amongst these trumpanzees.
    Christ on a bike....


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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    there is no way in hell kim is just going to turn over his nuclear weapons and capability
    Agree and have stated so a couple times. If today's show does no more than reopen talks that were at full stop, then how can Trump's ego trip be a bad thing.

    So what is the solution? Another 66 years of the same?

    Un is not his father or grandfather and things today are not as they were before.

    Russia is in no position to act as sugar daddy and China although wanting to retain some NK influence is not going to risk big to keep NK afloat.

    Who knows where this will end? Might even allow NK to keep some nukes. Certainly some bad actors have them already.

    Both sides are going to have to give or this circle jerk will continue endlessly.
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Who knows where this will end? Might even allow NK to keep some nukes. Certainly some bad actors have them already.
    that would be a huge walk-back on the oft stated trump policy of no nukes....not saying trump's word means anything, but to suddenly say, "well, OK kim, keep a handful of nuclear weapons." would have to be considered a massive policy failure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Both sides are going to have to give or this circle jerk will continue endlessly.
    IMO neither side is going to give because they can't.

    we can meet back here on jan 20, 2021 and see if things are any different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    If today's show does no more than reopen talks that were at full stop, then how can Trump's ego trip be a bad thing.
    Please read this twitter post that I already posted.

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    Kim's playing him....Kim's proven he'll walk away from a shitty deal in his eyes too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Please read this twitter post that I already posted.
    Read it soon as you posted it even though I watched the whole thing live on TV.
    Posted my take here. I don't do twitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Posted my take here. I don't do twitter.
    I understand but this professor hit the nail on the head. It is just empty bluster. For those who can not see it..

    And no, Trump and Kim aren’t ‘friends.’ Trump personalizes diplomacy, bc 1) it flatters him personally to think he’s liked by powerful people; 2) it excuses Trump from learning/reading/preparing. If diplomacy is Trump & his buddies hanging out together, then the details are /1
    https://twitter.com/Robert_E_Kelly/s...-asia-48815700

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    US-North Korea: Trump and Kim agree to restart talks in historic meeting

    Both countries agreed to set up teams to resume stalled nuclear talks.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48814975

    Who would be so stupid enough to throw away all his weapons when at his gate standing somebody armed to the teeth, well known for his incursions, so much suffered upon already once...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSFFan View Post
    Kim's playing him....Kim's proven he'll walk away from a shitty deal in his eyes too.
    Exactly. Kim's gone from a tin pot dictator of a piss poor country sucking up to China to one that can openly gloat that he is such an important nuclear power that dumb shit US presidents go out of their way to come and shake his hand.

    That baldy orange cunto is a special kind of fucking idiot.

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    Ivanka Trump trying to join a conversation with Emmanuel Macron, Theresa May, Justin Trudeau and Christine Lagarde.

    http://www.indy100.com/article/ivank...eaders-8981121

    The look on Lagarde's face...

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    ^ delete that link - the most obnoxious website I have been to - so much autostart video and advertising

    better just youtube


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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    reopen talks that were at full stop
    are you just talking about drumpf "talks " or are you including south korean diplomacy ?

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    Ocasio-Cortez leads critics of video showing Ivanka Trump G20 chat

    First daughter attempts to talk with May, Macron and more

    New York Democrat laments damage to ‘diplomatic standing’

    The French government on Saturday released a brief clip of a discussion at the G20 summit in Osaka involving four world leaders – and Ivanka Trump.

    In the 19 seconds of footage, Donald Trump’s daughter appears to attempt to join a conversation between French president Emmanuel Macron, Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau, International Monetary Fund director Christine Lagarde and British prime minister Theresa May.

    Among widespread reaction on social media, most of it critical of the first daughter, the New York Democratic congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said such behaviour “hurts our diplomatic standing”.

    Trump has been criticised before for appearing to stand in for her father at international summits, for example during a discussion on health and migration in Africa at the 2017 G20 in Hamburg.

    In the video released by the Elysée Palace, Macron can be heard to make a point about “social justice”, to which Trump, standing to his right, says either “it’s on” or “it’s all”.

    May answers Macron, saying: “As soon as you start talking about the economic aspect of it though, a lot of people start listening who wouldn’t otherwise listen.”

    Trump agrees, and says: “And the same with the defence side I think, in terms of the whole sort of…”

    Standing to Trump’s right, Lagarde looks steadily at Trudeau. The president’s daughter tails off, gesturing with her hands.

    “…being very male dominated,” she says, nodding. “So…”

    In her tweet about the video, Ocasio-Cortez said: “It may be shocking to some, but being someone’s daughter actually isn’t a career qualification. It hurts our diplomatic standing when the president phones it in [and] the world moves on.

    “The US needs our president working the G20. Bringing a qualified diplomat couldn’t hurt either.”

    After the G20 in Japan, during which Ivanka and her husband Jared Kushner attended talks with China about trade, the Trumps proceeded to South Korea.

    On Sunday father and daughter took an unprecedented diplomatic step, through the Demilitarised Zone and into North Korean territory.

    Ivanka Trump pronounced the experience “surreal”.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-ocasio-cortez

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    being someone’s daughter actually isn’t a career qualification
    *Zing!*

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    Clown....I'm not the one with the silly hat

    You are so biased you would have Trump go in bare knuckled tell little rocket man he's a monster and start WW3 killing millions

    Or maybe he could just do like Obama and Hillary did with Gaddafi and we could lose 1000's more people like Sean Smith Chris Stevens Tryone Woods and Glen Doherty.

    Trump is a very smart guy and will make friends with the devil if it saves lives unlike idiots like you

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    well, since Trump can't trust his own officials to carry his message, using family in diplomacy is not a bad move

    it had worked for hundreds of years in royal diplomacy, this is a new fresh approach by Trump

    Lagarde is a stupid old snob, she should remember she is a corrupt official who help a criminal friend steal 450m EUR from the state
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