Thread: President Donald Trump

Originally Posted by RPETER65

That at was a big steaming pile of bs you just posted

Really? How so?

Originally Posted by bsnub

Pentagon denied White House request for troops to perform law enforcement services at border: report

Then the Wiki has got it wrong?

The President of the United States (POTUS)[B] is the head of state and head of government of the United States of America. The president directs the executive branch of the federal government and is the commander-in-chief of the United States Armed Forces.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presid..._United_States

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Then the Wiki has got it wrong?

wiki got it right. trump's out of line and the pentagon's calling him on it

FaRT troll

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

It's a fact of American life that politicians need campaign money and spend most of their time trying to raise it. From your source:

Dems: $14,305,651
Repubs: $15,146,841

However, you cannot deny that the Democrats are the party that passed Dodd-Frank against Wall Street's wishes, and the Republicans gutted it.

The reason they gutted it? (Or rather one of them):

My point was that both parties are equally beholden to the money interests. Dodd-Frank was a sham right out of the gate. This goes back to 1999 when Prez Clinton and a Repuke Congress deep sixed the Glass-Steagall Act. Again both parties working in tandem with the money interests. This society of "We the People" have not been well served by either faction.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

That at was a big steaming pile of bs you just posted

Ah yes, a doddery old fool crying "fake news".

Where have we heard that before?

Originally Posted by SKkin

My point was that both parties are equally beholden to the money interests. Dodd-Frank was a sham right out of the gate.

If that was the case, why did baldy orange cunto and his lackeys go out of their way to shred it?

Amusing news about baldy orange cunto's Justice Department failing to stop a case that might expose his moneygrubbing activities.

WASHINGTON — A federal judge denied the Justice Department's efforts to halt legal proceedings in a case accusing President Donald Trump of violating the U.S. Constitution — opening the door for Trump's critics to soon gain access to financial records related to his Washington, D.C., hotel.


Trump has been fighting multiple lawsuits that argue that foreign representatives' spending money at the Trump International Hotel is a violation of the Constitution's emoluments clause, which bans federal officials from accepting benefits from foreign or state governments without congressional approval.

In a sally to prevent the case moving on to legal discovery — which would potentially unearth financial records such as Trump's income tax returns — Justice Department lawyers had asked Maryland-based U.S. District Judge Peter J. Messitte to put the case on hold while they appeal his decision to a higher court in Richmond, Virginia.

That effort failed.

"This is another major win for us in this historic case," said District of Columbia Attorney General Karl A. Racine in a statement. "Our next step is to proceed with discovery. We will soon provide the court a new schedule to begin the process of getting information about how President Trump is profiting from the presidency."

Messitte wrote in a sometimes blistering 31-page opinion released Friday that the president did not sufficiently meet the requirements for an appeal midway through the ongoing case.

"It is clear that the president, unhappy with the court's reasoning and conclusion, merely reargues that his interpretation of the emoluments clauses should apply instead of the one the court gave," he wrote. "The court sees no point in stating again why it concluded as it did."

But, Messitte said, merely disagreeing with the court doesn't constitute a required "substantial" reason for such an appeal.



Justice Department spokeswoman Kelly Laco told The Associated Press that the department "disagrees with and is disappointed" by Messitte's ruling. She added: "This case, which should have been dismissed, presents important questions that warrant immediate appellate review."

Justice lawyers had objected to any discovery on a sitting president in his official capacity because of separation of powers concerns, in order to avoid a "constitutional confrontation" between two branches of government. They argued that the "public interest is decidedly in favor of a stay because any discovery would necessarily be a distraction to the President's performance of his constitutional duties."

The president could try to seek a writ of mandamus to have the appeal heard by a higher court. That would be an "extraordinary remedy," according to the Justice Department's website, that "should only be used in exceptional circumstances of peculiar emergency or public importance."

It's also a move with a demanding standard for petitioners that would partly rest on showing Messitte's decisions to be clearly wrong.
The plaintiffs, Maryland and the District of Columbia, have said they plan to move forward quickly with discovery, seeking information and financial records that would primarily come from third parties rather than the government.


A clue as to what they may request can be found in the preservation subpoenas they filed more than a year ago with 23 Trump-related entities, including The Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, The Trump Organization, the Mar-a-Lago Club, Inc., and entities related to his D.C. hotel and its management, among others.

The subpoena requires the majority of documents to be preserved from Jan. 1, 2015 on an ongoing basis. The court filings cite document categories for preservation, including those from Nov. 8, 2016 onward concerning "marketing to foreign or domestic governments, including members of the diplomatic community." Other noted categories for preservation include documents that would identify guests of the hotel and those who have rented event space, details on all finances, "operating leases, permits, licenses, tax payments or credits to or from foreign or domestic governments."

A schedule of legal discovery is due in 20 days and it could begin quickly thereafter, depending on what is agreed to by all parties.
Though the case has been narrowed to focus on Trump's Washington, D.C., hotel, "that hotel is a nexus for a far-flung web of foreign and domestic emoluments," said Norman Eisen, chairman of the nonprofit Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, which is co-counsel with the two jurisdictions.

The emoluments clause has never been fully tested in an American courtroom. Two other lawsuits accusing the president of violating the emoluments clause are also being heard in other federal courts. Neither has reached the discovery stage.

The plaintiffs have argued that Trump — who has declined to divest from his assets as president — is capitalizing on the presidency and causing harm to businesses trying to compete with his Washington hotel, which is just steps from the White House.

The Justice Department has said earnings from business activities, including hotel room stays, don't qualify as emoluments. Its attorneys have argued that under Maryland and D.C.'s interpretation, no federal official would even be able to own stock from a foreign company that provides profits or collects royalties.

Messitte pushed back in his opinion against any delaying tactics by the president and his Justice Department lawyers.

"There is genuine concern on the part of plaintiffs, indeed the court shares it, that if the president is permitted to appeal the court's decisions in piecemeal fashion, ultimate resolution of the case could be delayed significantly, perhaps for years" especially because it's likely the president would appeal any negative decisions up to the U.S. Supreme Court.

"That, as a matter of justice, cannot be countenanced."

https://www.stripes.com/news/us/just...lease-1.555046

Originally Posted by Humbert

Imports of US soybeans dropped 80% from the previous year because of retaliatory tariffs applied by China. China was the biggest customer of US soybeans. A total disaster for US soybean farmers.

Yup. So much winning.

But the price is up.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Imports of US soybeans dropped 80% from the previous year

Originally Posted by RPETER65

But the price is up.

Great rationale for winning; lose 80% of the sales to our biggest customer, but the price is up so fewer sales but at a higher price.
When the glut hits, what will happen to the price?

Originally Posted by RPETER65

But the price is up.

Stop lying you idiot. The current price of a bushel of soybeans is $8.75 down from $10.77 earlier this year before the sanctions. So much lying.

https://www.macrotrends.net/2531/soy...cal-chart-data

Soybeans price history.....





https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/soybeans

Winning...

Ford is having a bad year in 2018. Its stock is down 29%, and the tariffs imposed by President Trump have reportedly cost the company $1 billion, as the company is in the midst of a reorganization. Now, the company is announcing layoffs.

Jim Hackett, Ford’s CEO, is working to engineer a $25.5 billion restructuring of the automaker, hoping to cut costs and remain competitive, the Wall Street Journal reports. But auto sales are down, and one reason is the trade tariffs that Trump has imposed on metals and other goods. According to Bloomberg, Hackett has said they have already cost the company $1 billion in profit and could do “more damage” if the disputes aren’t resolved quickly.

Ford, the No. 2 U.S. automaker by sales, is making aggressive job cuts as part of that reorganization, NBC News reported. While the company hasn’t said how many jobs will be lost, a report from Morgan Stanley estimates “a global headcount reduction of approximately 12 percent,” or 24,000 of Ford’s 202,000 workers worldwide.”

While reports have indicated that the job cuts are likely to come early next year, The Kansas City Star reported Tuesday that Ford has temporarily halted production of transit vans in Claycomo, Mo. The move is intended to prevent a build-up in Ford’s inventories of the vans, but it will leave 2,000 workers idle between Oct. 22 and Nov. 4.

Despite news of the layoffs, Ford’s stock closed down 3.4% Tuesday.

At a time when automakers are scrambling to prepare for self-driving cars, Ford is also struggling to keep pace with the rest of the industry. September was a bad month for U.S. auto sales—with aggregate sales down 7%—but Ford’s drop off was even more severe. Ford said its sales of its vehicles declined 11.2% last month, with sales of its best-selling F-Series pickup trucks down 9%.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ford-...Dy2f03w5CHwQKo

China was the biggest customer of US soybeans.

Isn't it funny?
The most developed state in the technology is exporting a huge quantity of cheap commodities to poor countries.
Another one example is a timber export to Asia, a huge US surplus besides the strong local demand for the own housing construction (no longer a usual style in the poorer countries).

Obviously, that's only enabled by the immense number of thousands of containers needing to be returned to Asia almost free of charge, after they brought the not-so-easy-to-make technology goods with very added value by the cheap Asian workmanship.

(I know - with the stolen technology )

Originally Posted by Cry Me A Liver

Ford have been laying of staff for decades.

The state will surely not allow to go under...

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Isn't it funny?
The most developed state in the technology is exporting a huge quantity of cheap commodities to poor countries.

It's not always easy to understand what you're driving at with your limited English skills but are you making the argument that the US should no longer be engaged in selling it's agricultural surplus to the rest of the world? And you would like to see those jobs converted to tech jobs?

Originally Posted by Klondyke

after they brought the not-so-easy-to-make technology goods with very added value by the cheap Asian workmanship.

I assume you would be quite happy to pay 5 times what you currently paying for TV's, mobile phones, computers etc?

Originally Posted by RPETER65

But the price is up.

Are you a liar or an idiot?

As trade war batters Chinese demand for soybeans, US farmers turn back to grains

• China used to buy 60 per cent of US soybean exports but has bought almost none for months due to the tariff dispute
• Soybean prices tumbled to a decade-low on September 18

<snip>

Without China, Thomas said local cash prices near his farm are US$7.10 per bushel of soybeans, below the US$8.50 necessary to cover costs.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/dipl...mers-turn-back

Originally Posted by Humbert

It's not always easy to understand what you're driving at with your limited English skills but are you making the argument that the US should no longer be engaged in selling it's agricultural surplus to the rest of the world? And you would like to see those jobs converted to tech jobs?

I assume you would be quite happy to pay 5 times what you currently paying for TV's, mobile phones, computers etc?

I am afraid you with your not-so-limited English skill did not get the clue:

The shelves are filled up with sophisticated products from the poor countries (otherwise it would be like in Moscow shops in 70 - 80th), whilst the goods are paid for by the export of the cheap commodities... (oh yes, there are also some other not-so-cheap "commodities"...)

So, how to make America great again, and how to create millions new jobs? (perhaps by the Caravan people working in the fields?)

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Are you a liar or an idiot?

he's a repeater....just repeats all the horseshit he hears on fox and breitbart

Originally Posted by David48atTD

Promises made. Promises kept.

this is a complete load of shit you're propagating here.

two of his biggest campaign promises were repealing/replacing obamacare, and building a wall that mexico would pay for.

nope.

didn't happen.

Originally Posted by David48atTD

Trickle-down economics may be a long-term fail but for the moment people have a few extra bucks and a bit of optimism, and they're good with that.

again, you're just spouting off trump talking points that have no basis in reality.

the overwhelming majority of people won't see 'a few extra bucks' until 2019 when they file for the 2018 tax year.

and btw, 'tickle down economics' is complete and utter BS. this sort of policy only benefits corporations and the very wealthy.

^ To be fair, Ray, it's not David's writing and it started with the qualifier...

Originally Posted by David48atTD

If you're a Donald Trump supporter who voted for him at the 2016 election, how do you rate his performance?