Thread: President Donald Trump

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Thanks, yes, I understood that. I didn't understand the point of EO's being reversed by the same guy that signed them.

I said "a president", not "this president".

Originally Posted by Cujo

Do you REALLY think Bob Woodward is a con?

Bob Woodward is an establishment fluffer and a former Navy spook(ONI). The MIC is in no danger from Woodward.

btw...He helped perpetuate the "Slam Dunk" Iraqi WMD fable. I wouldn't take every thing he says as fresh off the mountaintop chiseled in stone.

Madoff’s Enablers Are A Lot Like Bob Woodward
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/david..._b_157707.html

Woodward and the Narrative of Good Faith Reliance on CIA Intelligence

Bush’s reelection in 2004 relied on a false narrative, marketed and promoted by Bob Woodward, that the decision to invade Iraq was made in good faith, in reliance on George Tenet’s assessment that, “It’s a slam dunk.” The Tenet anecdote was the centerpiece of the April 2004 marketing campaign for Plan of Attack, Woodward’s blockbuster bestseller. The rollout began on 60 Minutes :

Says Woodward: “George Tenet’s sitting on the couch, stands up, and says,” ‘Don’t worry, it’s a slam dunk case.’” And the president challenges him again and Tenet says,” ‘The case, it’s a slam dunk.’ ...I asked the president about this and he said it was very important to have the CIA director -“ ‘Slam-dunk is as I interpreted is a sure thing, guaranteed. No possibility it won’t go through the hoop.’ Others present, Cheney, very impressed.”
What did Woodward think of Tenet’s statement? “It’s a mistake,” he says. “Now the significance of that mistake - that was the key rationale for war.”
It was just two weeks later when the president decided to go to war.

Tenet’s statement “was the key rationale for war.” Hmm. Given that Bush and Cheney each offered up a self-serving version of events, an honest journalist would have confirmed the quote with the man who made it. Woodward did not, and later Tenet claimed that his remarks were taken out of context. Woodward also skirted the normal rules for multiple sourcing; he submitted written questions to Cheney ahead of time, so that all the interview subjects could coordinate their talking points. Woodward’s due diligence was a sham.

As for the decision to invade Iraq, Tenet’s remark was virtually irrelevant, given that the inspectors, led by Hans Blix and Mohamed ElBaradei, had publicly eviscerated the CIA case in early 2003, while the Administration offered no substantive response. Woodward, along with Bush, overlooked this inconvenient truth, and in that respect Woodward participated in the conspiracy of silence.

Making a further mockery of the idea of independent analysis, Bob Woodward critiqued George Tenet’s memoir in The Washington Post.

Originally Posted by Cujo

Trump calls Woodward a con

Takes a con to know a con.

Woodward (twenty seconds after Trumps says "I know you're fair"): "It's a tough look at the world and your administration and you."
Trump: "Right, well I assume that means it's going to be a negative book."
Trump admitting that a fair person's hard look will be negative.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Woodward (twenty seconds after Trumps says "I know you're fair"): "It's a tough look at the world and your administration and you."
Trump: "Right, well I assume that means it's going to be a negative book."
Trump admitting that a fair person's hard look will be negative.

Trump admitting that he's a fucking car crash of a president.

^

On top of Woodward’s book, an essay written by an anonymous White House senior official was published today in the New York Times. It’s damning.

I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration

I work for the president but like-minded colleagues and I have vowed to thwart parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/o...esistance.html

Originally Posted by misskit

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On top of Woodward’s book, an essay written by an anonymous White House senior official was published today in the New York Times. It’s damning.

I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration

I work for the president but like-minded colleagues and I have vowed to thwart parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/o...esistance.html

I read that earlier. Says a lot when his team talk about how to kick him out.
"Given the instability many witnessed, there were early whispers within the cabinet of invoking the 25th Amendment, which would start a complex process for removing the president. But no one wanted to precipitate a constitutional crisis. So we will do what we can to steer the administration in the right direction until — one way or another — it’s over."

Rumors on the internets says it's Pence.....I would have guessed Kelly or Mattis. It doesn't really sound like a career politician talking.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Bob Woodwards book has been debunked by some of those he said he got information from,destined to the Omarosa burn pit.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Trump admitting that he's a fucking car crash of a president.

Trump admitting the liberals are out to try and disgrace him in any way possible.

Originally Posted by uncle junior

Rumors on the internets says it's Pence.....I would have guessed Kelly or Mattis. It doesn't really sound like a career politician talking.

Rumors?

I really just don't know who to believe in any of this... an award winning investigative journalist with a track record of impeccable credentials and integrity; or the administration led by a man who routinely, habitually, lies!?

It's just so confusing!

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Bob Woodwards book has been debunked by some of those he said he got information from,destined to the Omarosa burn pit.

Link?

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Bob Woodwards book has been debunked by some of those he said he got information from

Have a bit of a look at your dictionary.
"Debunked" does not mean "denied". Of course the guys denied it! But that's not debunking.

Originally Posted by uncle junior

Rumors on the internets says it's Pence.....I would have guessed Kelly or Mattis. It doesn't really sound like a career politician talking.

Rumors?

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Have a bit of a look at your dictionary.
"Debunked" does not mean "denied". Of course the guys denied it! But that's not debunking.

Nice try try at a play on words,the fact that they said it never happened and was a fabrication is pretty much debunking major parts of his book,of course you haters will never admit to the facts laid out by major players in his book.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

I really just don't know who to believe in any of this... an award winning investigative journalist with a track record of impeccable credentials and integrity; or the administration led by a man who routinely, habitually, lies!?

It's just so confusing!

The confusing thing is why you have never really looked into Woodward’s work,of course if you only look at what the liberal press has to say you should be forgiven for your confusion.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Nice try try at a play on words,the fact that they said it never happened and was a fabrication is pretty much debunking major parts of his book,of course you haters will never admit to the facts laid out by major players in his book.

A pun is a play on words, like "RePeater".
It's not even a semantics point, it's a clear difference of meaning.
Denying is not debunking.
As I suggested, go and have a look at your dictionary.

Originally Posted by uncle junior

^yeah, u know those things u call sources

Maybe be you could be more specific those things I call sources.

^Put a link up to ur debunked claim or gtfo asswipe

Originally Posted by Maanaam

A pun is a play on words, like "RePeater".
It's not even a semantics point, it's a clear difference of meaning.
Denying is not debunking.
As I suggested, go and have a look at your dictionary.

Okay so so leave out the play on words part and stick to the fact the major players have stated it never happened and if it never happened that pretty much debunked parts of the book,if part of the fruit is rotten the whole fruit is garbage. But as I said you haters will keep on hating.

Originally Posted by uncle junior

^Put a link up to ur debunked claim or gtfo asswipe

Getting a a little touchy are you with the profanity and all,as Harry says do your own research you lazy slob.

By the way still waiting to hear where your internet rumors come from.