Thread: President Donald Trump

Originally Posted by birding

No other president in the history of the US or the world for that matter has had to put up with the crap and pressure he has endured

Might also be argued that no other president in the history of the US or the world has been so completely, utterly, unqualified and unsuited for the office and such a blatant liar.

Originally Posted by birding

All a product of the weird US version of democracy, the people were given a choice, as one commentator put it, between a stroke and a heart attack or as I like to put it between the court jester and the wicked witch. The American people made the correct decision.

Considering all the lies, innuendo, sniping, media attacks and inquiries into anything and everything by those who cant accept the result of their democracy when they dont get the result they want he has done quite well.

No other president in the history of the US or the world for that matter has had to put up with the crap and pressure he has endured. Had he been accepted and left to do the job he was elected to do the US and the world would be a better place today.

Most of the criticism comes because he's a bald-faced liar.

It started before the election.

How many times did he say "On my first day in office...." and yet his biggest achievement is giving enormous tax breaks to corporations, the very wealthy - and himself.

Left to do the job? He's incapable of doing it.

Perhaps if he spent more time working and less time watching Fox News and fucking tweeting, he might actually leave a worthwhile legacy.

He deserves all he gets.

Originally Posted by uncle junior

Odd comparison, also skewed. Carter was popular after the election and steadily lost confidence and popularity. Trump has pretty much maintained his low ratings.

It needs just a missile strike and the popularity will come again (or a secret deal with contra - what later can be cleverly apologized).

All that depending on the image makers...

Originally Posted by uncle junior

Odd comparison, also skewed. Carter was popular after the election and steadily lost confidence and popularity. Trump has pretty much maintained his low ratings.

CNN made the comparison but he is hanging in there maintaining his low ratings. All things considered, he and others would say he is doing ok.

The public appears to not really care anymore about his well reported behavior.

Originally Posted by Norton

The public appears to not really care anymore about his well reported behavior.

That's partly what makes the whole Stormy Daniels fiasco so bizarre I think. It's Trump: few are surprised he'd shag a porn star behind his wife's back and as you say not many actually probably even care, but through all the absurd denials / retractions / revisions / explanations him and his team have played a part in keeping it all in the news.

And then of course he turns around and blames 'Fake News'.

From day one, I had 45 pegged as a con man. A very clever one. In spite of a constant stream of lies, sexual infidelities, misoginistic statements and ultra right wing nationalism folks are clearly still being taken in by him. A testament to human stupidity.

Originally Posted by birding

No other president in the history of the US or the world for that matter has had to put up with the crap and pressure he has endured. Had he been accepted and left to do the job he was elected to do the US and the world would be a better place today.

Trump's constant lying has invited much of the pressure and crap that he has endured. Why should anyone accept this bloated narcissistic con man as leader of a country is beyond me. However, if that doesn't bother you, you're free to support the mendacious bastard.

Originally Posted by Norton

From day one, I had 45 pegged as a con man. A very clever one. In spite of a constant stream of lies, sexual infidelities, misoginistic statements and ultra right wing nationalism folks are clearly still being taken in by him. A testament to human stupidity.

he is actually not different from your average US politician, or even average Republican politician, except he is not as smart as hiding his flaws, which makes him by default a better person from the mediocre average

you know what you would get with him, a real estate sales man

Originally Posted by Norton

From day one, I had 45 pegged as a con man. A very clever one. In spite of a constant stream of lies, sexual infidelities, misoginistic statements and ultra right wing nationalism folks are clearly still being taken in by him. A testament to human stupidity.

That's because they don't care about the president, they simply care about their agenda:

Abolish immigration
Abolish abortion
Abolish Social Security and Medicare

And that isn't just the extreme right either.

It might have been real in 2006....

Stormy Daniels says Trump's hair is real and that it 'fluffed' around 'like a drunken cockatoo' as they had sex

And he is a cock, too.

President Trump has announced the US will withdraw from the Iran nuclear deal

https://news.sky.com/story/live-trum...-deal-11364195

On the plus side this will isolate America more and hasten the demise of the evil empire, let's hope Trump gets 4 more years and the end of the empire should be in sight.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

That's because they don't care about the president, they simply care about their agenda:

Abolish immigration
Abolish abortion
Abolish Social Security and Medicare

And that isn't just the extreme right either.

can you post examples of attempts to abolish legal immigration,or social security and Medicare?

Originally Posted by happynz

Trump's constant lying has invited much of the pressure and crap that he has endured. Why should anyone accept this bloated narcissistic con man as leader of a country is beyond me. However, if that doesn't bother you, you're free to support the mendacious bastard.

You call that support? I dont support Trump but neither do I denigrate him. I have no sides in this as you appear to do and I accept that the American people voted him as their president, no matter how silly their system.
One of the main principals of democracy is that the will of the majority is accepted and respected this has not happened with Trump.

From the first day his win was announced (and even before) every possible means have been used against him mostly based on lies and innuendo.

Take this latest fiasco, someone who he screwed 12 years ago has been dragged from obscurity to be used against him and she gets notoriety and money, no doubt why she got in the sack with him in the first place. He probably doesnt even remember her, do you remember who you screwed 12 years ago, I doubt many do.

You say he lies well those before him lied also, remember WMD, I did not have sex with that woman, Viagra given to troops so they could rape. His opponent in the "Race to the white house" has been shown to have lied. And some of these lies have cost hundreds of thousands if not millions of lives. He has a long way to go to catch up but it seems he is trying with this latest 'make an enemy of Iran thing'

The American people were given a terrible choice the only thing worse than Trump as President would be Hillary as President.

Originally Posted by birding

One of the main principals of democracy is that the will of the majority is accepted and respected this has not happened with Trump

Yeah but the majority didn't vote for Trump though.

Originally Posted by birding

Take this latest fiasco, someone who he screwed 12 years ago has been dragged from obscurity to be used against him and she gets notoriety and money, no doubt why she got in the sack with him in the first place. He probably doesnt even remember her, do you remember who you screwed 12 years ago, I doubt many do.

How many people are in the habit of signing NDA's with women they don't remember.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Take this latest fiasco, someone who he screwed 12 years ago has been dragged from obscurity to be used against him and she gets notoriety and money, no doubt why she got in the sack with him in the first place. He probably doesnt even remember her, do you remember who you screwed 12 years ago, I doubt many do.

Maybe more about the illegal payments. He should have banged and left well enough alone.

Originally Posted by birding

do you remember who you screwed 12 years ago, I doubt many do.

I must admit, all those porn stars that I've paid to keep quiet tend to be a bit of a blur.

Originally Posted by uncle junior

Maybe more about the illegal payments

Speaking of which...

"A company tied to a Russian oligarch sent US$500,000 ($718,000) to an entity lawyer Michael Cohen used to pay hush money to a porn actress who said she had a sexual encounter with President Donald Trump, according to lawyer Michael Avenatti..."

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/new...ectid=12047964

Originally Posted by birding

No other president in the history of the US or the world for that matter has had to put up with the crap and pressure he has endured.

what nonsense.

every president has to put up with crap and pressure....and most in recent memory have 'endured' far more than trump who inherited a growing economy and also has full control of congress.

FFS, obama took the oath of office with the world economy on the verge of collapse...while at the very same time, the republicans were conspiring to "make him a one term president" in the words of senator mitch mcconnell.

W was on the job less than a year when 9/11 happened.....after the election results went to the supreme court.

stop sucking trump's dick for a few minutes and get better informed.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Speaking of which...

"A company tied to a Russian oligarch sent US$500,000 ($718,000) to an entity lawyer Michael Cohen used to pay hush money to a porn actress who said she had a sexual encounter with President Donald Trump, according to lawyer Michael Avenatti..."

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/new...ectid=12047964

So trump does whatever he wants. Cohen rushes in after gets NDAs signed and passes out hush money, the Russians pick up the tab leaving trump up to his ears with Boris.

Just watched the John Oliver bit on Rudy Guiliani.

It reminds that anyone who is taken aback by his recent Trumptardishness and ineptitude really shouldn't be as he has been a cousin-fucking weirdo for a long, long time.

Originally Posted by birding

You call that support? I dont support Trump but neither do I denigrate him. I have no sides in this as you appear to do and I accept that the American people voted him as their president, no matter how silly their system.
One of the main principals of democracy is that the will of the majority is accepted and respected this has not happened with Trump.

From the first day his win was announced (and even before) every possible means have been used against him mostly based on lies and innuendo.

Take this latest fiasco, someone who he screwed 12 years ago has been dragged from obscurity to be used against him and she gets notoriety and money, no doubt why she got in the sack with him in the first place. He probably doesnt even remember her, do you remember who you screwed 12 years ago, I doubt many do.

You say he lies well those before him lied also, remember WMD, I did not have sex with that woman, Viagra given to troops so they could rape. His opponent in the "Race to the white house" has been shown to have lied. And some of these lies have cost hundreds of thousands if not millions of lives. He has a long way to go to catch up but it seems he is trying with this latest 'make an enemy of Iran thing'

The American people were given a terrible choice the only thing worse than Trump as President would be Hillary as President.

You see, one tin foil hat comment like that invalidates the rest.
You may not support Trump but you've got to agree he's a lying self absorbed asshole doing his bet to surround himself with yesmen and finding that at that level there aren't too many.

Nope, this one...