President Donald Trump

**buriramboy** · 29-12-2017, 07:00 AM

You just have to take advantage of whatever policies the current administration is advocating, same as anywhere in the world you can always make money whoever is in charge. Unless of course you are terminally potless like simple Sybil and aren't able to take advantage of opportunities as they present themselves. Look at Bitcoin and other cryptos people on this board have made out like bandits but still the terminally poor members remain terminally poor spewing their envy and jealousness at those who have some coin.

**cyrille** · 29-12-2017, 08:17 AM

Wow, Donald Trump, MRT trains...is there any topic that doesn't have you making tedious 'one note' comments about me, you odd, malevolent little woman beater?

**RPETER65** · 29-12-2017, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by Maanaam

IF you take out that top 1%. IF! But in doing that you're fudging the figures. The top 1% are there in reality.
And nonetheless, that top 1% are still going to have millions more with this tax reform. They don't get taxed at the top rate for all their income, they get taxed at the top rate for their income over the bracket threshold.

Are you talking about the many-times-disproved trikle-down? Come on, lets be sensible

Yes, but that's not pertinent to the discussion. They still will benefit greatly from this tax reform, which is what you are denying.
And that benefit to them does have an effect on the average American because the tax cuts to the rich have a cost on the public purse.

Go on, do what I suggested to make your point; Put up figures for before and after the tax reform for the mode income American and the top 1% American.
You won't because you won't like what you see.

I have not denied the rich will get richer,the rich will get richer regardless of the tax reform.

Yes it is possible the tax cuts for the rich could have a cost to the public purse,it is also possible tax cuts for the rich could add to the public purse it all depends on how these tax cut efect the economy, which will not be known for some time.

**thailazer** · 29-12-2017, 10:37 PM

The economy only grows when there is some strategic driver. Take the space race in the 60's for example, or the rise of cellular telephone technology in the 80's. There is no evidence that tax deals like Trump's have ever caused an economic boost. The tax deal is fiscally irresponsible as it raises the deficit.

Trump will go into history as being the least thoughtful president there ever was. He is incapable of any strategic thought, and he will continue to miss opportunities as he makes a bigger mess of the USA. He could have sponsored having solar panel factories built in coal country and put a goal out to have some percentage of every house in the USA less than 5 years old have a solar roof for instance. There are plenty of ideas out there but they take someone with brains and leadership capability to make them happen. Trump has neither quality.

The USA is being run by a snake oil salesman fueled by his ego and corporate influence. Skid Row America is here.

**raycarey** · 29-12-2017, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by buriramboy

more jobs

Originally Posted by buriramboy

no new wars

Under Trump, U.S. Military Deaths in War Zones Are Up For The First Time In Six Years

Originally Posted by buriramboy

people have more money in their pockets

**bsnub** · 31-12-2017, 01:26 PM

What a fcuking idiot.

Nikki Haley seemingly tricked by Russian pranksters into commenting on fictional country 'Binomo'

A pair of Russian comedians appear to have successfully tricked the US’ Ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, into commenting on a fictional Asian country.

The two comedians Vladimir Kuznetsov and Alexei Stolyarov, known as Vovan and Lexus, posted a 22 minute audio clip of their conversation with the ambassador where they get her to comment on the situation in Binomo – a fictional country in the South China Sea.

Posing as the Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki, they spoke to Ms Haley in the days after Poland was one of 35 countries to abstain on a UN vote to reject Donald Trump’s declaration of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital as “null and void”.

The UN General Assembly voted 128-9, excluding the abstentions, in favour of the motion.

She said: “Let me start with very much thanking you for the support we received on the vote today. We will never forget it”.

Previous Mr Trump suggested he would cut off financial aid to those who voted for the motion.

The pranksters then moved the discussion to the situation in Binomo.

Mr Stolyarov, who was posing as Mr Morawiecki, said: “You know Binomo” to which Ms Haley replied “yes, yes”.

“They had elections and we suppose Russia had its intervention”, he continued.

Ms Haley then replied: “Yes, of course they did, absolutely.

“We’ve been watching that very closely, and I think we will continue to watch that as we deal with the issues that keep coming up about the South China Sea.”

He then asked her what the US was planning to do about the island to which Ms Haley responded that she needed to “find out exactly what our stance is on that” and get back to them.

The comedians also questioned her about Ukraine, with whom Russia has been engaging in a proxy war since 2014, and expressed support for the former President of Georgia, Mikheil Saakashvili, who was arrested in Kiev earlier this month.

Mr Saakashvili has been accused of taking money from a Russia-based oligarch to destabilise the political situation in Ukraine but has dismissed the allegations as "lies".

Poland and Ukraine have traditionally been allies but relations have soured in recent months due in part to a spat over the wartime killing of Poles in Ukraine.

A spokesperson for Ms Haley, John Degory, told The Post and Courier he would not confirm or deny the authenticity of the video. "We have nothing to share on that at this time," he said.

The Russian pranksters are known for impersonating Eastern European officials to mock and undermine Western leaders.

Earlier this year, US Energy Secretary Rick Perry was tricked into thinking he was talking to Ukrainian Prime Minister Volodymyr Groysman where he reportedly discussed a new fuel made from manure and alcohol.

A spokeswoman for the department told Bloomberg at the time: “These individuals are known for pranking high-level officials and celebrities, particularly those who are supportive of an agenda that is not in line with their governments. In this case, the energy security of Ukraine.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8133041.html

**raycarey** · 31-12-2017, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by bsnub

The two comedians Vladimir Kuznetsov and Alexei Stolyarov, known as Vovan and Lexus, posted a 22 minute audio clip

Originally Posted by bsnub

A spokesperson for Ms Haley, John Degory, told The Post and Courier he would not confirm or deny the authenticity of the video.

is it audio or video?

if it's video, she's going to be crushed.

**bsnub** · 31-12-2017, 03:07 PM

^The website only plays audio.

Here is the full dialog..

The Binomo thing starts @11:25 mark

**raycarey** · 31-12-2017, 03:28 PM

OK, it's an audio recording of a phone call. this is going to be embarrassing for her, but i think she'll survive it.

if it were video of a face to face interaction, it would obviously be far worse for her.

**bsnub** · 31-12-2017, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by raycarey

if it were video of a face to face interaction, it would obviously be far worse for her.

What's the difference the imbecile said what she said regardless. She is now a laughingstock every time she sets foot at the UN.

**raycarey** · 31-12-2017, 03:33 PM

don't get me wrong, it's a significant blunder....but there's only one person she has to worry about.....and he watches a lot of cable news.

no video...no problem.

**Topper** · 31-12-2017, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by raycarey

no video...no problem.

And Fox probably hasn't reported on it so there's no chance the president will ever hear of it....

**bsnub** · 31-12-2017, 03:50 PM

Of course fox won't air it. It ain't nonsensical debunked garbage about Hillary.

**raycarey** · 31-12-2017, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by CSFFan

And Fox probably hasn't reported on it so there's no chance the president will ever hear of it....

i'd wager he hate watches a fair amount of 'morning joe' on MSNBC.

**bsnub** · 31-12-2017, 04:56 PM

^ Of that there is no doubt. He most likely watches more CNN and MSNBC than FOX. I can just see him holed up in the oval office fuming all day long sending out tweets while Kelly and McMaster run the country.

**Klondyke** · 31-12-2017, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by raycarey

OK, it's an audio recording of a phone call. this is going to be embarrassing for her, but i think she'll survive it.

It can be denied as a fake. Or just nothing more "embarrassing" than similar embarrassing leaked calls available on Youtube (e.g. re Ukraine: Nuland-ambs Pyatt, Estonian FM - EU Ashton).

**SKkin** · 31-12-2017, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by Klondyke

e.g. re Ukraine: Nuland-ambs Pyatt, Estonian FM - EU Ashton

"Fuck the EU" ~ Vicky Nudelman aka Mrs. Robert Kagan

**SKkin** · 01-01-2018, 03:43 AM

https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/...ump-state-park

**Maanaam** · 01-01-2018, 07:19 AM

Originally Posted by CSFFan

And Fox probably hasn't reported on it so there's no chance the president will ever hear of it....

I can just imagine if he watched it without being told specifically what the problem was, he'd not see any problem.
It would be nice if he was asked publically about Binoma.

**Topper** · 02-01-2018, 11:24 AM

Trump has been in office 346 days now (I just checked) and he's spent 117 of those days at one of his properties, or 33% of his time.

Trump Hikes Prices For Mar-a-Lago New Year's Eve Party Tickets

Isn't enriching one's self using their office illegal?

**thailazer** · 03-01-2018, 08:23 AM

The world's most obvious stupid person is taking credit for aviation safety in the USA. Good to see people standing up to him.

Trump took credit for planes not crashing. An astronaut's response has Trump seeing stars

**buriramboy** · 03-01-2018, 10:19 AM

I see Kim Jong Un must have been trolling Trump again judging by The Dons latest tweets. Comedy gold, can The Don remain president for ever please.

**Maanaam** · 03-01-2018, 11:29 AM

Trump's nuclear button is bigger that Kim's.

**uncle junior** · 03-01-2018, 11:43 AM

Kim doesn't need permission to use his though

**Maanaam** · 03-01-2018, 12:24 PM

Kim's is defensive, always has been, not offensive like Trump wants to make out.
But that's not the point. The point was Childish Brat-in-chief needs to say his button is bigger.
Trump's an insecure child.

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