Thread: President Donald Trump

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

In my hometown we have illegals on welfare as well as muslims that were allowed to immigrate.

As SK lived in the same town I did, SK, drop by the Fred Meye on Wheaton Way in East Bremerton to see this.

Will have to wait until June when we move back. But why Fred Meyer? That's got to be one of the most expensive grocery stores around. Who shops there? Not people on welfare. People on welfare go to Grocery Outlet.

Originally Posted by slackula

When people in the industry start going to jail for being slimeball fuckwits like you it might be time to start to revisit regulation.

I am not in Sales, so I am fine, thank you

anyway going after a few guys is hardly changing everything, so it should be done, but it's the underlying issue of why that should be addressed.

It has been done, so now time to move on

Originally Posted by slackula

Until then throw them in jail for a while and start rebuilding.

quite a few high profile cases already, but again throwing out lieutenants is not dealing with all the root cause of the violations

a few traders in jail is a good start, but that doesn't fix anything

Originally Posted by CSFFan

Or Madeline Albright.

Yeah lets go off to another land and kill another half million children, because "we think the price is worth it"



That'll fix it...

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

For me, it's all about the policies - that will be implemented.

The policies will remain basically the same. You heard it here first.

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

In my hometown we have illegals on welfare as well as muslims that were allowed to immigrate.

How the fuck do you know how they get their money or their immigration status? Did you check their paperwork or something?

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

In my hometown we have illegals on welfare as well as muslims that were allowed to immigrate.

As SK lived in the same town I did, SK, drop by the Fred Meye on Wheaton Way in East Bremerton to see this.

Will have to wait until June when we move back. But why Fred Meyer? That's got to be one of the most expensive grocery stores around. Who shops there? Not people on welfare. People on welfare go to Grocery Outlet.

Actually, Freddie's is cheaper than Safeway, which is the most expensive I think.

I'm sure more welfarers are on the West side.

Where is grocery outlet?

Callow? Low-class street.

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

Where is grocery outlet? Callow? Low-class street.

Probably where I'd be shopping if I lived there. I'm not hiso like you.

Originally Posted by CSFFan

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

In my hometown we have illegals on welfare as well as muslims that were allowed to immigrate.

How the fuck do you know how they get their money or their immigration status? Did you check their paperwork or something?

Illegals are easy to spot from Guatemala. I've been there twice and have close Guatemalan friends down there.

They look different than Mexicans, speak little English and wear sweaters when its 80 F degrees.

As for the Muslims, hijab, thick accent (not a native speaker) using EBT cards/ SNAP at the grocery store.

With their kids in tow, you know they're on WIC and housing also.

Keep working hard, working class Democrats.

Originally Posted by SKkin

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

Where is grocery outlet? Callow? Low-class street.

Probably where I'd be shopping if I lived there. I'm not hiso like you.

I'm just a regular working dude.

I live a Spartan lifestyle and am frugal.

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

With their kids in tow, you know they're on WIC and housing also.

So you don't know shit about the people you're disparaging....not surprising after all..

I'm sorry, CP. I forgot you were posing as an ignorant ass just to wind people up. My responses to your shit is on me.

Originally Posted by CSFFan

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

With their kids in tow, you know they're on WIC and housing also.

So you don't know shit about the people you're disparaging....not surprising after all..

Yes, I do know shit.

Look at the statistics.


Do you even know what WIC is?

Originally Posted by CSFFan

I'm sorry, CP. I forgot you were posing as an ignorant ass just to wind people up. My responses to your shit is on me.

No, don't be sorry.

You're just an ignorant out of touch English teacher who is a necesarry burden to Thailand to the Thai authorities that despise you.

You have no choice, but to be where you are.


Try asking the Thais for welfare.

If you girls can stop scratching and pulling each others hair for a moment you might find this interesting.
What lies BEHIND Trump.

Frightened by Donald Trump? You don’t know the half of it

Many of his staffers are from an opaque corporate misinformation network. We must understand this if we are to have any hope of fighting back against them


Yes, Donald Trump’s politics are incoherent. But those who surround him know just what they want, and his lack of clarity enhances their power. To understand what is coming, we need to understand who they are. I know all too well, because I have spent the past 15 years fighting them.

Trump’s climate denial is just one of the forces that point towards war

Over this time, I have watched as tobacco, coal, oil, chemicals and biotech companies have poured billions of dollars into an international misinformation machine composed of thinktanks, bloggers and fake citizens’ groups. Its purpose is to portray the interests of billionaires as the interests of the common people, to wage war against trade unions and beat down attempts to regulate business and tax the very rich. Now the people who helped run this machine are shaping the government.

I first encountered the machine when writing about climate change. The fury and loathing directed at climate scientists and campaigners seemed incomprehensible until I realised they were fake: the hatred had been paid for. The bloggers and institutes whipping up this anger were funded by oil and coal companies.


Among those I clashed with was Myron Ebell of the Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI). The CEI calls itself a thinktank, but looks to me like a corporate lobbying group. It is not transparent about its funding, but we now know it has received $2m from ExxonMobil, more than $4m from a group called the Donors Trust (which represents various corporations and billionaires), $800,000 from groups set up by the tycoons Charles and David Koch, and substantial sums from coal, tobacco and pharmaceutical companies.

For years, Ebell and the CEI have attacked efforts to limit climate change, through lobbying, lawsuits and campaigns. An advertisement released by the institute had the punchline “Carbon dioxide: they call it pollution. We call it life.”


Former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, like other members of Trump’s team, came from a group called Americans for Prosperity. Photograph: UPI/Barcroft Images
It has sought to eliminate funding for environmental education, lobbied against the Endangered Species Act, harried climate scientists and campaigned in favour of mountaintop removal by coal companies. In 2004, Ebell sent a memo to one of George W Bush’s staffers calling for the head of the Environmental Protection Agency to be sacked. Where is Ebell now? Oh – leading Trump’s transition team for the Environmental Protection Agency.


Charles and David Koch – who for years have funded extreme pro-corporate politics – might not have been enthusiasts for Trump’s candidacy, but their people were all over his campaign. Until June, Trump’s campaign manager was Corey Lewandowski, who like other members of Trump’s team came from a group called Americans for Prosperity (AFP).

This purports to be a grassroots campaign, but it was founded and funded by the Koch brothers. It set up the first Tea Party Facebook page and organised the first Tea Party events. With a budget of hundreds of millions of dollars, AFP has campaigned ferociously on issues that coincide with the Koch brothers’ commercial interests in oil, gas, minerals, timber and chemicals.

In Michigan, it helped force through the “right to work bill”, in pursuit of what AFP’s local director called “taking the unions out at the knees”. It has campaigned nationwide against action on climate change. It has poured hundreds of millions of dollars into unseating the politicians who won’t do its bidding and replacing them with those who will.

I could fill this newspaper with the names of Trump staffers who have emerged from such groups: people such as Doug Domenech, from the Texas Public Policy Foundation, funded among others by the Koch brothers, Exxon and the Donors Trust; Barry Bennett, whose Alliance for America’s Future (now called One Nation) refused to disclose its donors when challenged; and Thomas Pyle, president of the American Energy Alliance, funded by Exxon and others. This is to say nothing of Trump’s own crashing conflicts of interest. Trump promised to “drain the swamp” of the lobbyists and corporate stooges working in Washington. But it looks as if the only swamps he’ll drain will be real ones, as his team launches its war on the natural world.

Understandably, there has been plenty of coverage of the racists and white supremacists empowered by Trump’s victory. But, gruesome as they are, they’re peripheral to the policies his team will develop. It’s almost comforting, though, to focus on them, for at least we know who they are and what they stand for. By contrast, to penetrate the corporate misinformation machine is to enter a world of mirrors. Spend too long trying to understand it, and the hyporeality vortex will inflict serious damage on your state of mind.

Don’t imagine that other parts of the world are immune. Corporate-funded thinktanks and fake grassroots groups are now everywhere. The fake news we should be worried about is not stories invented by Macedonian teenagers about Hillary Clinton selling arms to Islamic State, but the constant feed of confected scares about unions, tax and regulation drummed up by groups that won’t reveal their interests.

The less transparent they are, the more airtime they receive. The organisation Transparify runs an annual survey of thinktanks. This year’s survey reveals that in the UK only four thinktanks – the Adam Smith Institute, Centre for Policy Studies, Institute of Economic Affairs and Policy Exchange – “still consider it acceptable to take money from hidden hands behind closed doors”. And these are the ones that are all over the media.

When the Institute of Economic Affairs, as it so often does, appears on the BBC to argue against regulating tobacco, shouldn’t we be told that it has been funded by tobacco companies since 1963? There’s a similar pattern in the US: the most vocal groups tend to be the most opaque.

As usual, the left and centre (myself included) are beating ourselves up about where we went wrong. There are plenty of answers, but one of them is that we have simply been outspent. Not by a little, but by orders of magnitude. A few billion dollars spent on persuasion buys you all the politics you want. Genuine campaigners, working in their free time, simply cannot match a professional network staffed by thousands of well-paid, unscrupulous people.

You cannot confront a power until you know what it is. Our first task in this struggle is to understand what we face. Only then can we work out what to do.


https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...misinformation

^ The author just doesn't get it, he puts his loss down to money, it's crap talk like this that puts people off of them, and they just don't get it, so they annalise it more thus alienating even more people from them.

Originally Posted by CSFFan

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

With their kids in tow, you know they're on WIC and housing also.

So you don't know shit about the people you're disparaging....not surprising after all..

You should have stopped typing after the 5th word, the rest is kinda superfluous when talking to pissa boy.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

So Trump is appointing people to positions who actually have experience and worked at the top in the industry will get the portfolio for and thus know what is wrong as opposed to career politicians with no actual work experience and you condemn this ?

You obviously haven't seen his pick for Education Secretary.

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

44% of the total US population receives some form of payment from the US government.
In my hometown we have illegals on welfare as well as muslims that were allowed to immigrate.
As SK lived in the same town I did, SK, drop by the Fred Meye on Wheaton Way in East Bremerton to see this.

So you're conflating a misleading statistic with a anecdotal observation and think you've revealed some kind of fundemental truth?

Originally Posted by pickel

You obviously haven't seen his pick for Education Secretary.

It seems that "drain the swamp" has moved on to "wetlands are a national treasure that must be preserved".

Zero Clintons in prison.
Zero miles of wall.
Zero jobs.
Zero.

Buyer's remorse anybody? Suck a bowl longway....

Gloating. Demeaning the president and his opposition. A very undignified, unprecedented spectacle that will only increase opposition to him. Very Hitlerian.

What are the poor little brownshirts going to do when they eventually realize he hasn't drained the swamp at all, but fully stocked it?

Contrary to draining the swamp he's introducing even more reptiles into it.

Originally Posted by wasabi

^ The author just doesn't get it, he puts his loss down to money, it's crap talk like this that puts people off of them, and they just don't get it, so they annalise it more thus alienating even more people from them.

There's FAR more to this article than blaming the loss on money.
Read it again.

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

I'm sure more welfarers are on the West side.
Where is grocery outlet?
Callow? Low-class street.

More welfare peeps live on the East Side now since they closed down West Park.

Grocery Outlet is over on the East Side across the street from where the Sizzler used to be.

Originally Posted by Cujo

Contrary to draining the swamp he's introducing even more reptiles into it.

This guy is OK by me:

Trump Has Chosen Gen. Mattis for Secretary of Defense | The Weekly Standard

"President-elect Donald Trump has chosen retired Marine Gen. James N. Mattis to be secretary of defense, nominating a former senior military officer who led operations across the Middle East to run the Pentagon less than four years after he hung up his uniform, according to people familiar with the decision.

To take the job, Mattis will need Congress to pass new legislation to bypass a federal law that states secretaries of defense must not have been on active duty in the previous seven years. Congress has granted a similar exception just once, when Gen. George C. Marshall was appointed to the job in 1950.

An announcement is likely by early next week, according to the people familiar with the decision. Mattis declined to comment. Spokespersons for Trump's transition team did not respond to requests for comment.

Mattis is widely respected by members of the military, veterans, and the foreign policy establishment. Foreign Policy's Tom Ricks reported in 2013 that the Obama White House told Mattis to retire early because he pressed civilian leaders to answer "uncomfortable" questions about Iran:

Word on the national security street is that General James Mattis is being given the bum's rush out of his job as commander of Central Command, and is being told to vacate his office several months earlier than planned.

Why the hurry? Pentagon insiders say that he rubbed civilian officials the wrong way -- not because he went all "mad dog," which is his public image, and the view at the White House, but rather because he pushed the civilians so hard on considering the second- and third-order consequences of military action against Iran. Some of those questions apparently were uncomfortable. Like, what do you do with Iran once the nuclear issue is resolved and it remains a foe? What do you do if Iran then develops conventional capabilities that could make it hazardous for U.S. Navy ships to operate in the Persian Gulf? He kept saying, "And then what?"

Inquiry along these lines apparently was not welcomed -- at least in the CENTCOM view. The White House view, apparently, is that Mattis was too hawkish, which is not something I believe, having seen him in the field over the years. I'd call him a tough-minded realist, someone who'd rather have tea with you than shoot you, but is happy to end the conversation either way.

Mattis has been nicknamed "Mad Dog" for his colorful commentary as well as the "Warrior Monk" who is well-read in philosophy and history. In a widely circulated email from 2013, Mattis wrote:

The problem with being too busy to read is that you learn by experience (or by your men's experience), i.e. the hard way. By reading, you learn through others' experiences, generally a better way to do business, especially in our line of work where the consequences of incompetence are so final for young men.

Thanks to my reading, I have never been caught flat-footed by any situation, never at a loss for how any problem has been addressed (successfully or unsuccessfully) before. It doesn't give me all the answers, but it lights what is often a dark path ahead".

For more on Mattis, read his speech to veterans here, and watch the 2015 interview Peter Robinson conducted with him below: