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    ^This was all reported months ago. Christie and Kushner hate each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    This was all reported months ago.
    True...but most people forget these things.

    Looks like the Jared Kushner apple didn't fall far from the tree.

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    This is the stuff that is important to understand. The philosophy that is driving Trump originating in the mind of Steve Bannon. Interesting that one of his heroes is Lenin. Make no mistake about it. This is a global movement and destruction of the status quo is the goal. "Let the grass roots turn on the hate."

    The source can't be copied so you have to follow the link.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/15/us...ords.html?_r=0
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    Bannon...Goldman Sach's alum

    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    The philosophy that is driving Trump originating in the mind of Steve Bannon.
    The wealthy son of New Jersey real state mogul (and convicted felon) Charles Kushner, Jared was an exceedingly loyal soldier during his father-in-law’s campaign, most notably defending Trump against charges of trafficking in hatred of Jews when he retweeted a blatantly anti-Semitic image. Just as odd considering the Kushner family’s Holocaust heritage, there is no indication that Jared has any particular problem with the appointment of Steve Bannon, a leader of the racist and anti-Semitic alt-right movement, to the post of Trump’s chief strategist in the White House. The soft-spoken Kushner has generally managed to fly under the media radar. Now, Trump is said to be considering giving him the highest level of security clearance. Such is the reward for loyalty.
    source: Here are 7 things you need to know about Jared Kushner ? Ivanka?s husband and vaunted Trump whisperer

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    ^^ But the times is propaganda! Drumpf says so! Forget about the fact they have countless sources throughout New York. I have a good buddy who works for the National Review, they started the never trump movement and even he respects the fact that the times has integrity even though he hates the oped section. The man still subscribes and knows real journalism unlike the right wing brainwashed masses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    ^^ Trump many never even get to inauguration day at this point.
    Wishful thinking on your part?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    ^^ Trump many never even get to inauguration day at this point.
    Wishful thinking on your part?
    Of course. At this point I will take what I can get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub
    the National Review
    Neo-con rag, right up there with Billy Kristol's The Weekly Standard.

    Lets go back to your racism comment. I'm white but my opposition to Obama had nothing to do with his race. In fact having to listen/watch him for the last 8 years, he has gotten on my tits a lot less than his predecessor. I absolutely couldn't stand listening to or watching that little sawed off prick Dubya. I've been able to tolerate hearing Obama far better.

    But I'd say that the reality of 8 years of Obama in no way matches the perception that's been created in the world media. The perception that David48atTD mentioned on another thread. I am of the opinion that nothing of major consequence has really changed.

    The affordable care act has fast become the unaffordable care act. Since it went into effect my personal health insurance premiums taken bi-weekly from my paycheck have almost doubled, my deductible has tripled and my health plan is now 75/25 instead of 80/20. So that has not impressed me much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    ^^ Trump many never even get to inauguration day at this point.
    Wishful thinking on your part?
    Of course. At this point I will take what I can get.
    As far as Trump not making it to inauguration I don't think you are going to get much.

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    Trump has taken power by mobilizing the 'grass roots' by stoking their fears. People on this forum are trying to restructure reality by pounding away at the argument that the real bigots are the liberal elites who hate the common man. This is a text book Orwellian tactic. Trump made appeals to the fear of minorities and the white working class, Christian pride. Now they are demonizing the left by stoking fear again. Look at the words of longway, Dragonfly, Captain Nemo and others on this forum. They want to tear down the global establishment. What it will be replaced with if they succeed is the question. Bannon has said that one of the goals is to create jobs by putting displaced Americans to work rebuilding the infrastructure. And the way this will be financed is by running up the debt. An new strategic alliance with Russia. The destruction of NATO. Isolationism. An end to globalism. These are real goals of this movement. The post truth label that has emerged is Authoritarianism. Liberals are Authoritarians. It is an attempt at creating a false reality where objective truth is lost. The only thing that matters is the tyranny of the loudest voices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    elites
    So are you a shill for the globalist elites?


    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    putting displaced Americans to work rebuilding the infrastructure.
    Sounds very similar to FDR's CCC. You have a problem with that?


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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin
    So are you a shill for the globalist elites?
    So you are an anarchist who wants to destroy the existing order?

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    Sounds very similar to FDR's CCC. You have a problem with that?
    First of all, construction jobs are temporary. The CCC did not bring about an end to the depression. WWII did. Secondly, if it adds another trillion to the debt I would have a real problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    So you are an anarchist who wants to destroy the existing order?
    I'm becoming much more open to the idea. IMO the existing order or status quo is broken and unfixable.

    Trump is not the answer and neither was Hillary. Nor was Bernie or any of the other Repube candidates for that matter.

    Have you ever read James Howard Kuntsler's take on things? "Clusterfuck Nation"

    http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/what-now/

    I'm very much in his camp...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin
    I'm becoming much more open to the idea. IMO the existing order or status quo is broken and unfixable.
    My mother once told me. 'Don't throw out the baby with the bath water'.

    I think the cynicism that is infecting the world is dangerous. I would rather see reform than destruction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    I think the cynicism that is infecting the world is dangerous.
    I'll admit I have a boatload of cynicism...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    A pile of post truth doo doo.
    I posted just a bit back about this new word "post-truth" that has just been made
    " new word of the year" in the Oxford dictionary, and now you are going to beat it to death aren't you? even though you don't really seem to grasp it's meaning.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainNemo
    If you think you are cleverer than the rest - phucking prove it, by making a cogent argument, and making some effort to understand what's wrong with the way you think, as well as what leads those you regard as intellectual untermensch to think the way they think...
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainNemo
    ..because at the moment, the only bigots around, are you people.
    By gad, there is nothing "post-truth" in those two clips from Capt Nemo's post above. That is just plain old ordinary truth....as is the rest of the post.
    Excellent stuff....but I'm out of greens....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    Trump has taken power by mobilizing the 'grass roots' by stoking their fears. People on this forum are trying to restructure reality by pounding away at the argument that the real bigots are the liberal elites who hate the common man. This is a text book Orwellian tactic. Trump made appeals to the fear of minorities and the white working class, Christian pride. Now they are demonizing the left by stoking fear again. Look at the words of longway, Dragonfly, Captain Nemo and others on this forum. They want to tear down the global establishment. What it will be replaced with if they succeed is the question. Bannon has said that one of the goals is to create jobs by putting displaced Americans to work rebuilding the infrastructure. And the way this will be financed is by running up the debt. An new strategic alliance with Russia. The destruction of NATO. Isolationism. An end to globalism. These are real goals of this movement. The post truth label that has emerged is Authoritarianism. Liberals are Authoritarians. It is an attempt at creating a false reality where objective truth is lost. The only thing that matters is the tyranny of the loudest voices.
    What you call destruction, I call reform. Certain aspects of the reform are exaggerated to stoke fear. The enemy is some sections of the liberal elites who reduce everything to skin colour, sex and sexual orientation, in their bizarre ideology enforced through pc, the heterosexual white male is the new nigger or Jew, and is the scapegoat for all the ills of the world.

    It's strange nasty stuff, and needs to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by koman View Post
    “law and order”, seen by some liberals as a coded phrase for discriminatory policing of minorities

    Well of course it must be, I mean WTF else could law and order mean?....

    The idea that Jeff Sessions might become attorney general is a genuine threat to our country and the lives and safety of people of colour, Muslim Americans, women and working families.”...

    So, somehow "women" and "working families" are now minorities subject to persecution? Yessir, roundup all them there women and working families up and load em in the cattle trucks.
    How the fuck do you read that to mean he considers women and working families as 'minorities'?
    You are coming across as more and more retarded by the day.
    (having started as a seemingly balanced poster)

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    Longway please dont look.

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    ^ no need to ask, I wouldn't bother after reading your previous post. Talk about retarded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longway
    What you call destruction, I call reform
    I call you and you're subversive movement a threat to democracy. It needs to be wiped out.
    Add koman to the list of imbeciles who buy into this garbage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by koman View Post
    “law and order”, seen by some liberals as a coded phrase for discriminatory policing of minorities

    Well of course it must be, I mean WTF else could law and order mean?....

    The idea that Jeff Sessions might become attorney general is a genuine threat to our country and the lives and safety of people of colour, Muslim Americans, women and working families.”...

    So, somehow "women" and "working families" are now minorities subject to persecution? Yessir, roundup all them there women and working families up and load em in the cattle trucks.
    How the fuck do you read that to mean he considers women and working families as 'minorities'?
    You are coming across as more and more retarded by the day.
    (having started as a seemingly balanced poster)
    If you look carefully Mr. Dog, I was actually posing a question; not making a statement. That's why there is a ? at the end of the sentence. The statement to which I was responding is so fucking stupid and inflammatory it deserves nothing less than a sarcastic response.

    Let's try another another tack......"the lives of "women" and "working families" are now going to be in danger because Jeff Sessions might become AG. That is what the article claims.

    Does a clever dog like you not see/smell a bit of nonsensical political bullshit here? The hysterical rhetoric coming out of the leftist press/media these days is truly astonishing. Can't wait to see what they come up with when Donald and his team actually starts to do something....or nothing as the case may be.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    Add koman to the list of imbeciles who buy into this garbage.
    Is this like a promotion, or a vote of confidence?

    I have to say that I may not qualify for this honor, because I really don't know what "garbage" I'm supposed to have bought into. I have not actually bought into anything in particular, but I supposed it's hard to see that while viewing the world and it's events through a one inch diameter tube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    it's hard to see that while viewing the world and it's events through a one inch diameter tube
    I feel for you but if you only read your own posts I suppose you could have that problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by longway
    What you call destruction, I call reform
    I call you and you're subversive movement a threat to democracy. It needs to be wiped out.
    Add koman to the list of imbeciles who buy into this garbage.
    First I wanted to destroy America, then I was a russian spy, now I am a threat to democracy.

    Watch out

    I have the russian navy seals on my side.


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