1. #28601
    Chinese spy
    sabang's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Last Online
    Today @ 05:08 PM
    Location
    BackinOz
    Posts
    32,686
    Every time I look at her photo, I realise that is not her real face I am looking at. The wonders of plastic surgery, especially if daddy can afford a good one.

  2. #28602
    Member
    Ukan Kizmiaz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Last Online
    13-01-2021 @ 05:11 PM
    Posts
    971
    I'd root her tho'

  3. #28603
    Chinese spy
    sabang's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Last Online
    Today @ 05:08 PM
    Location
    BackinOz
    Posts
    32,686
    Yes indeed, nice visage too.

  4. #28604
    Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 08:26 PM
    Posts
    762
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    So you think it's right that 580,000 hick farmers in Wyoming have the same political power as 39 million people in California?

    Wyoming has 3 electoral college votes and California 55 so not exactly equal but not as disproportionate as you are trying to make out.

    I think that given the way America is set up the electoral college system is as good as they can get at trying to give more equal representation to all voters.


    In Australia we have electoral districts that have their boundaries reviewed to try and maintain more even populations in each district, with the idea being to make everyone's vote equal.
    I don't see how this could be done in America as the County boundaries are set and each state has more individual power than the states in Australia.

    So I think the people who set up the system in the US were pretty damn clever because it still works today when the place is vastly different than it was 200 years ago.

  5. #28605
    Member
    Ukan Kizmiaz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Last Online
    13-01-2021 @ 05:11 PM
    Posts
    971
    yes in the house of reps that is correct but australia is massively imbalanced across states in the senate

  6. #28606
    Chinese spy
    sabang's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Last Online
    Today @ 05:08 PM
    Location
    BackinOz
    Posts
    32,686
    ^^ Australia and USA seem to both love good old Gerry Mander, if they can get away with it.

  7. #28607
    Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 08:26 PM
    Posts
    762
    Quote Originally Posted by Ukan Kizmiaz View Post
    yes in the house of reps that is correct but australia is massively imbalanced across states in the senate
    It depends on what the Senate is there for. It is a house of review and each state has equal numbers of Senators so that each state has supposedly the same representation.
    The Lower house is where there is meant to be elected representatives that are elected on a equal value votes as per population numbers.
    The Senate members are also elected for 6 year terms and with only half facing election with each House of Representatives election it is supposed to balance out wild swings in voter sentiment. I think it works quite well.
    My main objection to the Aussie system is that the Prime Minster is chosen by the elected parliamentarians of the governing party. So the voters don't get a real say the party powerbrokers are the ones who do.

  8. #28608
    Hansum Man! panama hat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Last Online
    Today @ 05:07 PM
    Location
    Way, Way South of the border now - thank God!
    Posts
    26,507
    In Oz we vote for the party and know who the leaders are. If the leaders are not performing they get changed.
    If the voters don't like the new choice the party suffers at the next election.
    Nothing wrong with that.

  9. #28609
    En route
    Cujo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Last Online
    Today @ 04:47 PM
    Location
    Reality.
    Posts
    31,474
    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    Indeed, he still has some 70 odd days to make a mess.

    And then we will not go away, we will be holding rallys, start another birther movement. et al.
    I bet any 'rallies' he holds in the future will have an entrance fee.
    Other ex presidents have speaking engagements.

  10. #28610
    Thailand Expat TheRealKW's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2019
    Last Online
    @
    Posts
    5,619
    He's already demanding money to fund the court cases.

    What a fraud. He aint a billionaire.

  11. #28611
    Thailand Expat peaches's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 07:30 PM
    Location
    issan
    Posts
    1,093
    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Every time I look at her photo, I realise that is not her real face I am looking at. The wonders of plastic surgery, especially if daddy can afford a good one.
    Yeah, then not pay the doc.

    ....... any anyone else stupid enough to do any work for him.

  12. #28612
    Chinese spy
    sabang's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Last Online
    Today @ 05:08 PM
    Location
    BackinOz
    Posts
    32,686
    Jimmuh says hi donald.




    Go join him on the peanut farm for a mint julep- you are the only two living one term Presidents!

  13. #28613
    Thailand Expat harrybarracuda's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Last Online
    @
    Posts
    72,402
    Quote Originally Posted by ootai View Post
    Wyoming has 3 electoral college votes and California 55 so not exactly equal but not as disproportionate as you are trying to make out.
    Wyoming has two senators.

    California has two senators.

    Senators control who goes to the SCOTUS.

    I think perhaps my point sailed over your head.

  14. #28614
    Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 08:26 PM
    Posts
    762
    Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai (President Donald Trump)
    I am a progressive voter , and I understand the frustration when a candidate wins the popular vote but loses the Electoral College , but the system was designed so that exactly this thing could happen, and when it does it is working as it was designed.
    The US is a very large place with many different and diverse populations, If there was no Electoral College candidates will only concentrate in Urban , large population areas ignoring the rest, and the concerns of small populations would go totally unrepresented.
    Taxation without representation
    Did we not have a revolution and gained our independence from England exactly for that reason?



    So you think it's right that 580,000 hick farmers in Wyoming have the same political power as 39 million people in California?

    The highest legal authority in the country is predominately right wing * because of this, despite them not having a statistical mandate.

    * Added: For at least a generation.



    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post

    Wyoming has two senators.

    California has two senators.

    Senators control who goes to the SCOTUS.

    I think perhaps my point sailed over your head.

    harrybarracuda

    I did miss the point that you were talking about the SCOTUS because you were replying to another posters comment which was not talking about the SCOTUS.
    You did quantify what you were talking about by saying "the highest legal authority" but I missed the importance of that bit, my bad!
    I didn't realise that each state had the same number of Senators but I did or do know that the Senate has to agree to whomever gets to replace a deceased member of the SCOTUS.
    It seems to me that the current members die at the wrong time for the Democrats or it would be stacked that way instead.
    From what I understand the status quo has been maintained re the House of Reps is controlled by the Democrats and the Senate will still be controlled by the Republicans only the White House role has changed in this election. So maybe things will not be that much different after all.

  15. #28615
    Thailand Expat harrybarracuda's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Last Online
    @
    Posts
    72,402
    Quote Originally Posted by ootai View Post
    It seems to me that the current members die at the wrong time for the Democrats or it would be stacked that way instead.
    From what I understand the status quo has been maintained re the House of Reps is controlled by the Democrats and the Senate will still be controlled by the Republicans only the White House role has changed in this election. So maybe things will not be that much different after all.
    The major problem is that the constitution is so vague that it allows for abuse. There is a "rule" that the sitting president nominates SCOTUS judges and the Senate considers them and approves/rejects them. The Republicans decided to abuse this rule to stop Obama's nomination even being considered, claiming it was "too close to the election". Then they threw that out of the window when RBG died. The Dems are partially to blame for that because they abolished the rule allowing nominations to be fillibustered.

    These things need to be tested in court and laws written to stop them being misused by either side.

    You're right though, without the senate, all Biden can really do is Executive Orders.

    McConnell being the c u n t that he is will block anything unless he gets his pound of flesh out of it.

  16. #28616
    Thailand Expat harrybarracuda's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Last Online
    @
    Posts
    72,402
    Just noticed this gem.



    The President tweeted so many baseless claims about having the election stolen from him that his Twitter feed contained more warnings than actual text.

  17. #28617
    Thailand Expat harrybarracuda's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Last Online
    @
    Posts
    72,402
    Dumb shit.

    A BRITISH punter has lost $5million after betting on Donald Trump to defeat Joe Biden in the US presidential election.

    The former banker, who is based offshore, used a private bookies registered on the Caribbean island Curacao to place his risky gamble - believed to be the largest political punt ever made.
    British punter LOSES $5million after gambling on Donald Trump to beat Joe Biden in '''largest political wager ever made'''

  18. #28618
    ความรู้ลึกลับ HuangLao's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2017
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    สุโขทัย
    Posts
    9,054
    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    He's already demanding money to fund the court cases.

    What a fraud. He aint a billionaire.
    ...nor a decent/savvy businessman, as has been mystically promoted for a couple decades.

    Less to examine his highly questionable character and unreasoned ethos.

    Will be interesting to follow this theatre in the coming months as the insurmountable debts come due and the handful of criminal/civil charges being laced toward him and all associated.

  19. #28619
    Hansum Man! panama hat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Last Online
    Today @ 05:07 PM
    Location
    Way, Way South of the border now - thank God!
    Posts
    26,507
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    The former banker, who is based offshore
    . . . sabang . . .

  20. #28620
    Chinese spy
    sabang's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Last Online
    Today @ 05:08 PM
    Location
    BackinOz
    Posts
    32,686
    Heh, wot makes you think I have that much to gamble?
    And wot on earth makes you think I would bet it on trump?

  21. #28621
    Guest Member S Landreth's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    left of center
    Posts
    8,117
    Trump - first presidential candidate to lose the popular vote twice




  22. #28622
    Thailand Expat
    aging one's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Last Online
    @
    Posts
    19,492
    ^ What a winner!!

  23. #28623
    Thailand Expat David48atTD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2016
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    Palace Far from Worries
    Posts
    11,911


    With lyrics, Losing my Religion ...


  24. #28624
    Thailand Expat raycarey's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Last Online
    @
    Posts
    15,054
    'losing my religion' is a common expression in the american south for losing one's temper....and the lyrics to that song are about unrequited love.

    nice try, newbie dave.

  25. #28625
    Chinese spy
    sabang's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Last Online
    Today @ 05:08 PM
    Location
    BackinOz
    Posts
    32,686
    It also happens to be a great song, I would prefer not wasted on trump.

Page 1145 of 1183 FirstFirst ... 145645104510951135113711381139114011411142114311441145114611471148114911501151115211531155 ... LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •