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    Quote Originally Posted by thailazer View Post
    Our petulant president walks out of an interview! Hopefully his feeling that he is losing is spot on...

    Trump cuts short "60 Minutes" interview and tweets at Lesley Stahl - CBS News
    Look forward to seeing the interview.

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    ...nope, definitely not...

    Have you ever watch a legal deposition? I suppose it's probably helpful to have a general interest in the law.

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    Trump Records Shed New Light on Chinese Business Pursuits

    President Trump and his allies have tried to paint the Democratic nominee, Joseph R. Biden Jr., as soft on China, in part by pointing to his son’s business dealings there.

    Senate Republicans produced a report asserting, among other things, that Mr. Biden’s son Hunter “opened a bank account” with a Chinese businessman, part of what it said were his numerous connections to “foreign nationals and foreign governments across the globe.”

    But Mr. Trump’s own business history is filled with overseas financial deals, and some have involved the Chinese state. He spent a decade unsuccessfully pursuing projects in China, operating an office there during his first run for president and forging a partnership with a major government-controlled company.

    And it turns out that China is one of only three foreign nations — the others are Britain and Ireland — where Mr. Trump maintains a bank account, according to an analysis of the president’s tax records, which were obtained by The New York Times. The foreign accounts do not show up on Mr. Trump’s public financial disclosures, where he must list personal assets, because they are held under corporate names. The identities of the financial institutions are not clea

    The Chinese account is controlled by Trump International Hotels Management L.L.C., which the tax records show paid $188,561 in taxes in China while pursuing licensing deals there from 2013 to 2015.

    The tax records do not include details on how much money may have passed through the overseas accounts, though the Internal Revenue Service does require filers to report the portion of their income derived from other countries. The British and Irish accounts are held by companies that operate Mr. Trump’s golf courses in Scotland and Ireland, which regularly report millions of dollars in revenue from those countries. Trump International Hotels Management reported just a few thousand dollars from China.

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    In response to questions from The Times, Alan Garten, a lawyer for the Trump Organization, said the company had “opened an account with a Chinese bank having offices in the United States in order to pay the local taxes” associated with efforts to do business there. He said the company had opened the account after establishing an office in China “to explore the potential for hotel deals in Asia.”

    “No deals, transactions or other business activities ever materialized and, since 2015, the office has remained inactive,” Mr. Garten said. “Though the bank account remains open, it has never been used for any other purpose.”


    Mr. Garten would not identify the bank in China where the account is held. Until last year, China’s biggest state-controlled bank rented three floors in Trump Tower, a lucrative lease that drew accusations of a conflict of interest for the president.

    ImageTrump Tower in Manhattan had a lucrative lease agreement until last year with China’s largest state-controlled bank.
    Trump Tower in Manhattan had a lucrative lease agreement until last year with China’s largest state-controlled bank.Credit...Dave Sanders for The New York Times
    China continues to be an issue in the 2020 presidential campaign, from the president’s trade war to his barbs over the origin of the coronavirus pandemic. His campaign has tried to portray Mr. Biden as a “puppet” of China who, as vice president, misread the dangers posed by its growing power. Mr. Trump has also sought to tar his opponent with overblown or unsubstantiated assertions about Hunter Biden’s business dealings there while his father was in office.

    “He’s like a vacuum cleaner — he follows his father around collecting,” Mr. Trump said recently, referring to Mr. Biden’s son. “What a disgrace. It’s a crime family.”


    In a misleading claim amplified by surrogates like his son Donald Trump Jr. and his lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani, the president has said the younger Mr. Biden “walked out of China” with $1.5 billion after accompanying his father on an official trip in 2013. Numerous news articles and fact-checking sites have explained that the huge figure was actually a fund-raising goal set by an investment firm in which Hunter Biden obtained a 10 percent stake after his father left office. The firm did receive financial backing from a large state-controlled bank, but it is not clear the fund-raising target was ever met, and there is no evidence Hunter Biden received a large personal payout.

    As for the former vice president, his public financial disclosures, along with the income tax returns he voluntarily released, show no income or business dealings of his own in China. However, there is ample evidence of Mr. Trump’s efforts to join the myriad American firms that have long done business there — and the tax records for him and his companies that were obtained by The Times offer new details about them.

    As with Russia, where he explored hotel and tower projects in Moscow without success, Mr. Trump has long sought a licensing deal in China. His efforts go at least as far back as 2006, when he filed trademark applications in Hong Kong and the mainland. Many Chinese government approvals came after he became president. (The president’s daughter Ivanka Trump also won Chinese trademark approvals for her personal business after she joined the White House staff.)
    Trump Records Shed New Light on Chinese Business Pursuits - The New York Times

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    Why do so many republicans support Biden? Simple, donald trump is unamerican, you can't make America great by destroying it.
    I challenge any trump supporter to listen to this very short (2.3 minutes),video and comeback with a coherent argument against it.
    The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cisco999 View Post
    Have you ever watch a legal deposition?
    Have you ever clock a legal ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    Why do so many republicans support Biden? Simple, donald trump is unamerican, you can't make America great by destroying it.
    I challenge any trump supporter to listen to this very short (2.3 minutes),video and comeback with a coherent argument against it.
    Thanks, that was interesting. I am starting to hear more voices saying American first, republican second. Wonder how that will translate for others in the privacy of their voting booth.

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    ^ Or ... I'm a registered Republican ... but fuck Trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    Thanks, that was interesting. I am starting to hear more voices saying American first, republican second. Wonder how that will translate for others in the privacy of their voting booth.
    This is a powerful one, former RNC Chair Michael Steele:



    I think a lot of the GOP know that -- whether they voice it or not -- they've fucked themselves having become the party of Trump and there's accounting to be paid. Some of the gutless worms are even trying to put some distance between themselves and Trump already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    Thanks, that was interesting. I am starting to hear more voices saying American first, republican second. Wonder how that will translate for others in the privacy of their voting booth.
    I would hope more of us, than not, are reasonable. Because if we are not ,then trump is simply a symptom and we are all in deep doodoo.
    I am optimistic. I think that many , even some in this forum, have invested so much intellectual integrity in trump, they are unwilling to publicly concede the obvious, but in the privacy of the voting booth, along with their conscience they will do the right thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thailazer View Post
    Our petulant president walks out of an interview! Hopefully his feeling that he is losing is spot on...

    Trump cuts short "60 Minutes" interview and tweets at Lesley Stahl - CBS News

    Apparently he twattered about her not wearing a mask. Irony alert!

    And he's threatening to release his "own version" of the interview.

    Which would be classic baldy orange cunto dumbfuckery when they have the original.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    Why do so many republicans support Biden? Simple, donald trump is unamerican, you can't make America great by destroying it.
    Spot on and a great post. It should be pointed out that these guys are not just off the street, but they are GOP insiders. They will be the ones who reshape the GOP after the orange moron.

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    The New York Times recently revealed that Donald Trump paid no personal income tax to the IRS in 10 of the 15 years before he won the presidency. But the newspaper has now revealed that from 2013 to 2015 he paid almost $200,000 in taxes to China, where he still maintains a bank account and spent years pursuing business deals – a potentially major conflict of interest for a president who has fought both of his election campaigns on a promise to stand up to Beijing
    Trump did pay taxes – in China | First Thing election special | US news | The Guardian

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    Trump will end his presidency as he began it: Whining

    As the Donald Trump parenthesis in the republic’s history closes, he is opening the sluices on his reservoir of invectives and self-pity. A practitioner of crybaby conservatism — no one, he thinks, has suffered so much since Job lost his camels and acquired boils — and ever a weakling, Trump will end his presidency as he began it: whining.


    His first day cloaked in presidential dignity he spent disputing photographic proof that his inauguration crowd was substantially smaller than his immediate predecessor’s. Trump’s day of complaining continued at the CIA headquarters, at the wall commemorating those who died serving the agency. His presidency that began with a wallow in self-pity probably will end in ignominy when he slinks away pouting, trailing clouds of recriminations, without a trace of John McCain’s graciousness on election night 2008:

    “Sen. [Barack] Obama has achieved a great thing for himself and for his country. I applaud him for it, and offer my sincere sympathy that his beloved grandmother did not live to see this day — though our faith assures us she is at rest in the presence of her Creator and so very proud of the good man she helped raise. . . . And my heart is filled with nothing but gratitude . . . to the American people for giving me a fair hearing before deciding that Sen. Obama and my old friend, Sen. Joe Biden, should have the honor of leading us for the next four years.”

    Just 12 years separate the nation from this tradition of political competition bounded by banisters of good manners. Subsequently, the Republican Party has eagerly surrendered its self-respect. And having hitched its wagon to a plummeting cinder, the party is about to have a rendezvous with a surly electorate wielding a truncheon. The party picked a bad year to invite a mugging, a year ending in zero: Approximately 80 percent of state legislative seats will be filled this year, and next year the occupants, many of them Democrats wafted into office by a wave election, will redraw congressional districts based on the 2020 Census.

    After Democrats controlled the House for 40 years (1954-1994), control of it changed under four presidents (Bill Clinton in 1994, George W. Bush in 2006, Obama in 2010, Trump in 2018). Trump’s legacy might include a decade of Democratic control of the House.

    Political prophecy is an optional folly, but occasionally, as now, it might be useful by encouraging eligible voters to take the trouble to participate in a historic correction. It is not yet probable, but is not highly improbable, that Joe Biden can become the first candidate in 32 years to capture more than 400 electoral votes (George H.W. Bush, 426 in 1988). He can do this by carrying some Trump 2016 states where Biden is either leading or within the margin of polling error — Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Iowa, Ohio and Texas.

    Texas is the most important red state: Without its electoral votes (38 today; probably 41 in 2024), the Republican path to 270 is dauntingly narrow. Trump’s 52 percent in Texas in 2016 was the lowest Republican total in 24 years (when Bob Dole split the anti-Clinton vote with Ross Perot). With seven of the nation’s 15 fastest-growing cities (El Paso is almost the size of Boston; San Antonio is twice the size of Seattle), Texas illustrates the Republican Party’s understandable antipathy toward that which it exists to persuade: the electorate. Texas’s Republican governor, with the elastic scruples of his party, has ordered (this is being litigated) that each of the state’s 254 counties shall have only one drop-off site for absentee ballots — one for Loving County (population 169), one for Harris County (Houston, population 4.7 million, 70 percent non-White), one for Brewster County, whose size (6,192.3 square miles) could hold Connecticut with room remaining for more than half of Rhode Island.

    The GOP’s desire — demonstrated in myriad measures in many states — for low voter turnout is prudent: As the nation becomes more urban, suburban, diverse and secular, the Republican Party becomes more fixated on rural and small-town White voters. Thirty-six percent of Americans lived in rural areas in 1950; in 1990, 25 percent did; today, 17.5 percent do. Now, the rural population, 60 million, is about what it was in 1945. Since then, the urban population has almost tripled.

    Analyst Charlie Cook asks: “In 2016, 87 percent of Trump’s vote came from whites. For congressional Republicans in the 2018 midterms, it was 86 percent. Is this sustainable?” You have to admire Republicans’ jaunty, if suicidal, wager that it is.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...eb14a12a1bdf30

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    And he's threatening to release his "own version" of the interview.
    ... slagging her. I still can't believe how such a lowly creature, living in a fantasy bubble, made it into the highest office in the country. There is a swath of Americans who are unfit for a democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elche View Post
    I still can't believe how such a lowly creature, living in a fantasy bubble, made it into the highest office in the country. There is a swath of Americans who are unfit for a democracy.
    Everybody gets a same chance... (as was proven by GWB...)

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    Watching this video, I wonder how many less conservatives we will soon have...... The only one wearing a mask was Borat!


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    in case you were wondering how much of a liar he is....

    in 2009, Libyan dictator Colonel Muammar el-Qaddafi paid Trump $150,000 to stay at one of Trump's properties. Although Qaddafi's stay was canceled after neighbors objected, Trump told Face the Nation that he still received the money, and in 2011, Trump told CNN that he charitably donated all of the money.

    However, according to The New York Times, Trump's 2009 tax returns only reported $22,796 in business and personal cash gifts that year.
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    When Trump announced his intention to run for president in 2015, he had claimed to have made over $102 million in charitable donations over the last half-decade. But his tax records from 2010 to 2014 showed only $735,238 in cash donations and nearly $47 million in land easements and other non-cash gifts. A land easement is a charitable tax break property owners receive when they don't develop certain properties.
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    The Post's December 2016 article said that Trump had made most of his charitable donations to the Donald J. Trump Foundation. Of the $7.8 million in Trump's charitable donations identified by the Post at that point, $5.5 million, about 70 percent, went to his own foundation.


    As of 2016, the foundation's largest donation of $264,631 went to renovating a fountain outside Trump's Plaza Hotel. Trump had also used the foundation's funds to pay for lawyers in legal disputes and for two portraits on himself hanging at his resorts, the publication reported.


    The Trump Foundation disbanded in 2018 after then-New York state attorney general, Barbara Underwood, accused it of "functioning as little more than a checkbook to serve Mr. Trump's business and political interests," and of engaging in "a shocking pattern of illegality"
    Donald Trump Claims He Donated $150K from Qaddafi in 2009, But Tax Returns Only Show $23K to Charity: Report

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    So it seems that in the last 15 years, baldy orange cunto has paid more money to silence porn stars than he has in taxes.

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    Forbes Estimates China Paid Trump At Least $5.4 Million Since He Took Office, Via Mysterious Trump Tower Lease

    President Donald Trump, who declared “I don’t make money from China” in Thursday night’s presidential debate, has in fact collected millions of dollars from government-owned entities in China since he took office. Forbes estimates that at least $5.4 million has flowed into the president’s business from a lease agreement involving a state-owned bank in Trump Tower.


    The Industrial and Commercial Bank of China signed a lease for space in 2008, years before the president took office, paying about $1.9 million in annual rent. Trump is well-aware of the deal. “I’ll show you the Industrial Bank of China,” he told three Forbes journalists touring Trump Tower in 2015. “I have the best tenants in the world in this building.”


    Trump moved from the skyscraper to the White House in 2017, but he held onto ownership of the retail and office space in the building, through his 100% interest in an entity called Trump Tower Commercial LLC. That put him in an unusual position, given that government-owned entities in China hold at least 70% of the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China. Suddenly, a routine real estate deal became a conduit for a foreign superpower to pay the president of the United States.

    MORE Forbes Estimates China Paid Trump At Least $5.4 Million Since He Took Office, Via Mysterious Trump Tower Lease

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Forbes Estimates China Paid Trump At Least $5.4 Million Since He Took Office, Via Mysterious Trump Tower Lease

    President Donald Trump, who declared “I don’t make money from China” in Thursday night’s presidential debate, has in fact collected millions of dollars from government-owned entities in China since he took office. Forbes estimates that at least $5.4 million has flowed into the president’s business from a lease agreement involving a state-owned bank in Trump Tower.


    The Industrial and Commercial Bank of China signed a lease for space in 2008, years before the president took office, paying about $1.9 million in annual rent. Trump is well-aware of the deal. “I’ll show you the Industrial Bank of China,” he told three Forbes journalists touring Trump Tower in 2015. “I have the best tenants in the world in this building.”


    Trump moved from the skyscraper to the White House in 2017, but he held onto ownership of the retail and office space in the building, through his 100% interest in an entity called Trump Tower Commercial LLC. That put him in an unusual position, given that government-owned entities in China hold at least 70% of the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China. Suddenly, a routine real estate deal became a conduit for a foreign superpower to pay the president of the United States.

    MORE Forbes Estimates China Paid Trump At Least $5.4 Million Since He Took Office, Via Mysterious Trump Tower Lease
    Holy xit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    So it seems that in the last 15 years, baldy orange cunto has paid more money to silence porn stars than he has in taxes.
    Politics is a strange game when we worry more about who he is is fucking instead of what he is fucking up. They say you get the politicians you deserve and the electoral college appears to me, as an outsider, to be one of the problems.
    Trump IMO is indicative of the many problems facing US society today. If Trump is the disease I doubt Biden is the cure. In four years time the right will be saying Biden's done nothing and the left will say at least he's not Trump. The status quo will be maintained just a little more quietly. I hope I am wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    Politics is a strange game when we worry more about who he is is fucking instead of what he is fucking up. They say you get the politicians you deserve and the electoral college appears to me, as an outsider, to be one of the problems.
    Trump IMO is indicative of the many problems facing US society today. If Trump is the disease I doubt Biden is the cure. In four years time the right will be saying Biden's done nothing and the left will say at least he's not Trump. The status quo will be maintained just a little more quietly. I hope I am wrong.
    Unless Bidden wins with a wide margin that indicates that trump was an aberration, I am afraid trump is a symptome
    .The disease is a significant part of American culture I am afraid.
    Biden is IMO a first step, where we go from there is anyone's guess.

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    LMAO Error 404

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    LMAO Error 404

    It is a democrat set up spoof site.

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