Thread: President Donald Trump

Originally Posted by raycarey

they read something on the interwebs and suddenly they consider themselves constitutional scholars

Harry does his best

Originally Posted by raycarey

high profile national republicans are already breaking with trump and his childish tantrum....more will follow suit this weekend.

Indeed and it will grow.

Originally Posted by helge

Where did I say that he wouldn't ?

Show me that and ..then call me a moron.

Come on, Snub you little liar

Originally Posted by raycarey

he read something on the interwebs

Yes, where else ?

This U.S. Senate: President Pro Tempore is probably as accurate as HarryHotAir

Originally Posted by raycarey

and now considers himself a constitutional scholar.

Don't be stupid, just curious as I said

Originally Posted by helge

Ah, the Speaker of the House

Do they have 'Presidents Pro Tempore' there also ?


Or did you fall in love with that titel ?

You are confusing the line of succession with the arrangements for an expired term. That is because you are a fucking moron who can't read.

Originally Posted by raycarey

he read something on the interwebs and now considers himself a constitutional scholar. :rolleyees:

high profile national republicans are already breaking with trump and his childish tantrum....more will follow suit this weekend.

Well Ray, here's a fucking clue, if you don't know what you're talking about, go and do some research, you fucking wanker.

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take a moment to check the posts i replied to, harry. but for all intents and purposes it applies to you as well.

anyway....

On Nov. 6, more than two dozen CEOs of major U.S. corporations took part in a video conference to discuss what to do if Trump refuses to leave office or takes other steps to stay in power beyond the scheduled Jan. 20 inauguration of former Vice President Joe Biden. On Saturday Biden was declared the election winner by The Associated Press and other news organizations.


During the conference, which lasted more than an hour, the CEOs agreed that Trump had the right to pursue legal challenges alleging voter fraud.


But if Trump tries to undo the legal process or disrupts a peaceful transition to Biden, the CEOs discussed making public statements and pressuring GOP legislators in their states who may try to redirect Electoral College votes from Biden to Trump, said Yale Management Professor Jeffrey Sonnenfeld, who convened the meeting.

Top CEOs met to plan response to Trump'''s election denial

Here's the best bit: If they really wanted to start a fight, they could pick Hillary Clinton.

In the absence of an election by January, Trump’s time as president will end on January 20, 2021. Article II of the Constitution provides that a president is elected to serve a four-year term, and Trump’s four years will be up on that date. Without a new electoral mandate, he’s out.

Who, then, steps into the Oval Office if no election has been held, and the states don’t fill the gap with their own electors? Not Vice President Mike Pence; his term also expires on January 20. So the presidency and vice-presidency would both be vacant.

Now things get weird. By statute, the person next in line for the presidency is the speaker of the House. But in a world with no election, the speakership would be just as vacant as the vice presidency. Just as Trump’s term will end on January 20, the current term of every member of the House of Representatives will end on January 3. The House of Representatives would have no members and couldn’t elect a speaker.

Who’s next? The answer, by statute, is the president pro tempore of the Senate. That office would not be vacant. Only 35 Senate seats are up for election in November; the other 65 Senators are now serving terms that extend beyond 2021. So even without an election, there would still be a Senate, though it would have only 65 members.
The next critical question, of course, is who that president pro tempore would be. By Senate practice stretching back to the 19th century, the most senior member of the majority party is selected as president pro tem. Today, it’s Iowa’s Chuck Grassley. If there is no election this fall, however, Grassley would no longer be in the majority party. Of the 65 Senators whose terms continue past 2021, and who would therefore compose the Senate after January 3 in the absence of a new election, 35 are Democrats.

So, by default, the Democrats would control the Senate. To be clear, exactly 18 Democrats could control the Senate, since they’d make up a voting majority of the caucus.

By the usual rules—most senior member of the majority party—the president pro tem, and thus the president of the United States, would be Vermont’s Pat Leahy.

But the pro tem process isn’t a law. It’s just a tradition. And in a world this bizarre, where there’s no election, no president and no House, there’s no reason to assume the Senate Democrats would follow tradition. Legally, they can pick whomever they like. And if what they are really picking is the president of the United States, rather than a ceremonial officer, they might want to exercise some actual choice. They could elect President Amy Klobuchar or President Elizabeth Warren.

But would they? Neither the Constitution nor any statute restricts the choice of president pro tem to a current member of the Senate. (Similarly, the House of Representatives can decide to elect a speaker who is not a member of the House.) So the Senate Democrats could choose anyone at all with the constitutional qualifications to be president—that is, any natural-born U.S. citizen over the age of 35 other than Barack Obama, George W. Bush or Bill Clinton. If they were in a mood to right historic wrongs, they could choose Hillary Clinton. Or for that matter, Al Gore.

The most logical choice, though, would be Joe Biden. He is, after all, the person whom the Democratic Party will have named as its choice for president. He will have campaigned for the office, and he’ll have a transition team ready to go. He also happens to have good relationships with many of the 35 people making the choice.
So in the end, if no election is held this fall, and the process unfolds legally, the logical result isn’t that Trump stays in office. It’s that on January 3, Joe Biden becomes president pro tem of the Senate, and 17 days later, in the absence of a better claimant, Chief Justice John Roberts swears him in as president of the United States.

Postpone the Election? That Could Mean President Biden - POLITICO

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Biden doesn't need to be sworn in because if the election is not "decided" by then, a President Pro Tempore will be appointed. It will be a Democrat.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

And then a President Pro Tem is appointed from the majority party in the House.

The Senate, not the House.

Originally Posted by helge

The president pro tempore (or, "president for a time") is elected by the Senate and is, by custom, the senator of the majority party with the longest record of continuous service.

Did you even read this Harry? Which party has the Senate majority?

Originally Posted by raycarey

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take a moment to check the posts i replied to, harry. but for all intents and purposes it applies to you as well.

Apologies. I was confused by you saying he read something.

Originally Posted by pickel

Did you even read this Harry? Which party has the Senate majority?

At that point, the Democrats.

Of the 65 Senators whose terms continue past 2021, and who would therefore compose the Senate after January 3 in the absence of a new election, 35 are Democrats.

What ever happened to the Vice president in this conversation?

Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai

What ever happened to the Vice president in this conversation?

He is also out of a job come Jan 20th.

Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai

What ever happened to the Vice president in this conversation?

The President Pro Tempore shall help the rest of the Senate finding the fill in.

Ain't that right, Harry

^ further ...

Trump plans to distribute the vaccine for free everywhere in the US except New York

Mr Trump says the vaccine won't be made available in New York State because, according to him, "for political reasons the governor decided ... to take his time on the vaccine."

I knew Trump was bad news 4 years ago. Now I have more respect for the ass juice on a stripper's pole than I do for Trump. At least the ass juice was left by someone that worked for a living.

Originally Posted by thailazer

I knew Trump was bad news 4 years ago. Now I have more respect for the ass juice on a stripper's pole than I do for Trump. At least the ass juice was left by someone that worked for a living.

I've never considered ass juice before.

But it's an apt comparision.

How I hope that this thread soon disappears into the mists of history.

Originally Posted by Shutree

How I hope that this thread soon disappears into the mists of history.

I'm sure his escapades post presidency will ensure continuatitty

Ah fuck I must have misheard him.

Originally Posted by panama hat

Would that ass-juice be similar to the nose juice our dog leaves on the car windows, I'm talking consistency not odour, of course

No. Dog drool is a wonderful thing. Like strippers do, we have to wipe the ass juice of Trump off of our democracy at this point before the next dance.

Originally Posted by David48atTD

He says his administration has "initiated the single greatest mobilisation in US history

All you can do is laugh at him. Poor guy. He has always been over compensating for his many personal and social short comings as he always spouts that what ever he does is always the "biggest in US History". He needs to get over himself.

I know if I owned Twitter I'd ban his account. Let him go post on Instagram or Tik Tok.