Thread: President Donald Trump

I'd root her tho'

Yes indeed, nice visage too.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

So you think it's right that 580,000 hick farmers in Wyoming have the same political power as 39 million people in California?

Wyoming has 3 electoral college votes and California 55 so not exactly equal but not as disproportionate as you are trying to make out.

I think that given the way America is set up the electoral college system is as good as they can get at trying to give more equal representation to all voters.


In Australia we have electoral districts that have their boundaries reviewed to try and maintain more even populations in each district, with the idea being to make everyone's vote equal.
I don't see how this could be done in America as the County boundaries are set and each state has more individual power than the states in Australia.

So I think the people who set up the system in the US were pretty damn clever because it still works today when the place is vastly different than it was 200 years ago.

yes in the house of reps that is correct but australia is massively imbalanced across states in the senate

^^ Australia and USA seem to both love good old Gerry Mander, if they can get away with it.

Originally Posted by Ukan Kizmiaz

yes in the house of reps that is correct but australia is massively imbalanced across states in the senate

It depends on what the Senate is there for. It is a house of review and each state has equal numbers of Senators so that each state has supposedly the same representation.
The Lower house is where there is meant to be elected representatives that are elected on a equal value votes as per population numbers.
The Senate members are also elected for 6 year terms and with only half facing election with each House of Representatives election it is supposed to balance out wild swings in voter sentiment. I think it works quite well.
My main objection to the Aussie system is that the Prime Minster is chosen by the elected parliamentarians of the governing party. So the voters don't get a real say the party powerbrokers are the ones who do.

Originally Posted by TheRealKW

Indeed, he still has some 70 odd days to make a mess.

And then we will not go away, we will be holding rallys, start another birther movement. et al.

I bet any 'rallies' he holds in the future will have an entrance fee.
Other ex presidents have speaking engagements.

He's already demanding money to fund the court cases.

What a fraud. He aint a billionaire.

Originally Posted by sabang

Every time I look at her photo, I realise that is not her real face I am looking at. The wonders of plastic surgery, especially if daddy can afford a good one.

Yeah, then not pay the doc.

....... any anyone else stupid enough to do any work for him.

Jimmuh says hi donald.




Go join him on the peanut farm for a mint julep- you are the only two living one term Presidents!

Originally Posted by ootai

Wyoming has 3 electoral college votes and California 55 so not exactly equal but not as disproportionate as you are trying to make out.

Wyoming has two senators.

California has two senators.

Senators control who goes to the SCOTUS.

I think perhaps my point sailed over your head.

Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai (President Donald Trump)
I am a progressive voter , and I understand the frustration when a candidate wins the popular vote but loses the Electoral College , but the system was designed so that exactly this thing could happen, and when it does it is working as it was designed.
The US is a very large place with many different and diverse populations, If there was no Electoral College candidates will only concentrate in Urban , large population areas ignoring the rest, and the concerns of small populations would go totally unrepresented.
Taxation without representation
Did we not have a revolution and gained our independence from England exactly for that reason?



So you think it's right that 580,000 hick farmers in Wyoming have the same political power as 39 million people in California?

The highest legal authority in the country is predominately right wing * because of this, despite them not having a statistical mandate.

* Added: For at least a generation.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Wyoming has two senators.

California has two senators.

Senators control who goes to the SCOTUS.

I think perhaps my point sailed over your head.

harrybarracuda

I did miss the point that you were talking about the SCOTUS because you were replying to another posters comment which was not talking about the SCOTUS.
You did quantify what you were talking about by saying "the highest legal authority" but I missed the importance of that bit, my bad!
I didn't realise that each state had the same number of Senators but I did or do know that the Senate has to agree to whomever gets to replace a deceased member of the SCOTUS.
It seems to me that the current members die at the wrong time for the Democrats or it would be stacked that way instead.
From what I understand the status quo has been maintained re the House of Reps is controlled by the Democrats and the Senate will still be controlled by the Republicans only the White House role has changed in this election. So maybe things will not be that much different after all.

Originally Posted by ootai

It seems to me that the current members die at the wrong time for the Democrats or it would be stacked that way instead.
From what I understand the status quo has been maintained re the House of Reps is controlled by the Democrats and the Senate will still be controlled by the Republicans only the White House role has changed in this election. So maybe things will not be that much different after all.

The major problem is that the constitution is so vague that it allows for abuse. There is a "rule" that the sitting president nominates SCOTUS judges and the Senate considers them and approves/rejects them. The Republicans decided to abuse this rule to stop Obama's nomination even being considered, claiming it was "too close to the election". Then they threw that out of the window when RBG died. The Dems are partially to blame for that because they abolished the rule allowing nominations to be fillibustered.

These things need to be tested in court and laws written to stop them being misused by either side.

You're right though, without the senate, all Biden can really do is Executive Orders.

McConnell being the c u n t that he is will block anything unless he gets his pound of flesh out of it.

Just noticed this gem.

The President tweeted so many baseless claims about having the election stolen from him that his Twitter feed contained more warnings than actual text.

Dumb shit.

A BRITISH punter has lost $5million after betting on Donald Trump to defeat Joe Biden in the US presidential election.

The former banker, who is based offshore, used a private bookies registered on the Caribbean island Curacao to place his risky gamble - believed to be the largest political punt ever made.

British punter LOSES $5million after gambling on Donald Trump to beat Joe Biden in '''largest political wager ever made'''

Originally Posted by TheRealKW

He's already demanding money to fund the court cases.

What a fraud. He aint a billionaire.

...nor a decent/savvy businessman, as has been mystically promoted for a couple decades.

Less to examine his highly questionable character and unreasoned ethos.

Will be interesting to follow this theatre in the coming months as the insurmountable debts come due and the handful of criminal/civil charges being laced toward him and all associated.

Heh, wot makes you think I have that much to gamble?
And wot on earth makes you think I would bet it on trump?

Trump - first presidential candidate to lose the popular vote twice

^ What a winner!!

With lyrics, Losing my Religion ...

'losing my religion' is a common expression in the american south for losing one's temper....and the lyrics to that song are about unrequited love.

nice try, newbie dave.

It also happens to be a great song, I would prefer not wasted on trump.

Originally Posted by TheRealKW

America has just had almost 1400 sad days

Well counted

I take it you aren't american

Originally Posted by Ukan Kizmiaz

I'd root her tho'

You'd root anything