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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Biden did look weak and incapable of strong sentences and Trump was a big-mouth prick. His supporters love that about him.

    From my few minutes it's clear who is stronger. Sadly

    This is how I saw it also.


    Why doesn't the moderator have a simple microphone switch to stop the interruptions.

    Fair to both sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    Why doesn't the moderator have a simple microphone switch to stop the interruptions.
    Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Disagree. Being a loud-mouth blabbering fool isn't strong.
    Not to people like you and me and most others here but for both his followers and those who simply vote republican it's enough

    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Trump has zero command of literally any issue and refuses to condemn white supremacists and his answer to everything is to shout more lies.

    This debate isn't going to win him any more voters.
    Does he need them when Biden did look weak, as much as I hate to admit it

    Quote Originally Posted by Headworx View Post
    That's what I was trying to say, but you did it better and with less words..
    I iz a cunning linguist

    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    What is Biden supposed to do? That was not in anyway a debate. No point having the other two.
    Yup - get rid of the debates if the orange moron can lie, insult, obfuscate, interrupt, lie more etc . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    So the president of the US told a white supremacist group to 'stand down and stand by'
    It was "stand back and stand by", but yeah, he did exactly that and they heard him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    It was "stand back and stand by", but yeah, he did exactly that and they heard him.
    Right you are, and damn quickly too:





    Remember when people used to try to argue that the president of the US wasn't a racist douche-nozzle?

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    i heard or read this other day ( can't remember where), but it's pretty fucking frightening....

    if trump loses, he's going to be out of office and almost certainly facing several investigations and very expensive trials....and quite possibly being convicted of serious crimes.
    he has (literally) hundreds of millions of dollars in personal debt coming due in the next few years....does anyone doubt that he would sell america's secrets to foreign powers for cash?
    i don't.
    there have been rumors that the intelligence community has been holding back from sharing sensitive information with him....let's hope it's true.

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    ...there was no reason to have this "debate": the result was predictable and embarrassing for all involved. I imagine few voters were swayed from their opinions one way or the other by "persuasive argumentation". The event succeeded as spectacle and nothing more...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...there was no reason to have this "debate"
    There's always a reason. And it always boils down to the almighty dollar. 'tis the best show in town...

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    TV's Debates, Election Coverage Spur Advertiser Rush to Politics - Variety

    The debates may give advertisers of all stripes something they have not had in some time – a massive TV audience…

    NBC, CBS and ABC have all sold out their commercial inventory around the first debate, according to people familiar with the matter – as has Fox News Channel. “We are virtually sold out for the remaining three debates,” says Collins. “We have a unit here or there, but we are fast approaching sell-out in those debates as well.” ABC has also sold out commercial inventory around its coverage of the vice-presidential debate on October 7, according to one of these people, and is almost sold out of ad time in the debates slated to take place on October 15 and October 22. NBC is almost sold out of its election-night inventory on both broadcast and cable, one of these people said.

    The 90-minute debates themselves run commercial free. But there will be hours of coverage around the them, both on TV and in other video venues.

    No matter how critical the issues, buyers caution that most media companies aren’t seeing a surge in overall ad dollars. Even so, the networks have been able to increase their rates above what they sought in 2016, executives said. In 2016, the broadcast networks were able to charge between $150,000 and $200,000 for a 30-second spot in coverage around the presidential debates, according to Standard Media Index, a tracker of ad spending. Meanwhile, the cable networks sought prices ranging from $40,000 to $103,000.

    Fox News Channel is expected to take in more than $1.15 billion in advertising, according to Kagan, a market-research firm that is part of S&P Global Intelligence, up 8.2% from the approximately $1.07 billion it secured in 2019. MSNBC is expected to capture $601 million this year, down 3.1% from the $620 million it took in last year. And CNN is seen securing $608 million, this year, up 5.2% from the $578 million it captured last year, Kagan says.

    The coronavirus may have taken a chunk of money away from everyone. Estimates released by Kagan prior to the pandemic called for Fox News to win $1.32 billion in advertising in 2020; for MSNBC to secure $723 million; and for CNN to take in $773.1 million.

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    Got a good look at the utter ridiculousness of your man Trump there aye bowie.

    And you'll still vote for him...

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    done and dusted - ballots on a slow boat to Port Newark - registered in the battleground state of Pennsylvania so a weighted ballot

    1 in 440k in my county - bound to be the tie breaker

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    I just wonder how many republican lawmakers made the decision after the debate to "f___ that guy" . There have to be some that have a bit of spine left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thailazer View Post
    I just wonder how many republican lawmakers made the decision after the debate to "f___ that guy" . There have to be some that have a bit of spine left.
    Sadly, i do not think that will be shown to be correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    done and dusted - ballots on a slow boat to Port Newark - registered in the battleground state of Pennsylvania so a weighted ballot

    1 in 440k in my county - bound to be the tie breaker
    Cool.

    It's not like his grossly childish display and yet again refusal to condemn white supremacists and instead directly appeal to them because he's a racist would've been enough to dissuade you anyways.

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    Actually, as a resident of Thailand I have very little, actually no concern with who wins. People hang their hats on the talking head aka potus - the folks who control the game are the 535 congressman and senators, add the President and VP for 537. And not a one of them loses any sleep over the little guy. If they did, what exists would not be allowed.

    Its congress that runs the USA. POTUS is just a talking head. Yes, he may have veto power but a super majority overrides.


    Who wins, who loses - I don't really care. The impact on me is minimal, realistically non-existent. Really a good place to be in.

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    Trump has had a huge impact in the USA. He has divided us into the left and right, democratic and republican, racist and non-racist. He said he would not personally wear a mask and millions followed him causing untold death. He put oil tychoons in charge of the EPA, idiots in charge of education, and fired hundreds of state department employees that had decades of knowledge of world affairs. The USA is in the worst state I have ever seen it, and it is all due to the hand of Trump.


    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    Actually, as a resident of Thailand I have very little, actually no concern with who wins. People hang their hats on the talking head aka potus - the folks who control the game are the 535 congressman and senators, add the President and VP for 537. And not a one of them loses any sleep over the little guy. If they did, what exists would not be allowed.

    Its congress that runs the USA. POTUS is just a talking head. Yes, he may have veto power but a super majority overrides.


    Who wins, who loses - I don't really care. The impact on me is minimal, realistically non-existent. Really a good place to be in.
    Press On Regardless

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    Actually, as a resident of Thailand I have very little, actually no concern with who wins. People hang their hats on the talking head aka potus - the folks who control the game are the 535 congressman and senators, add the President and VP for 537. And not a one of them loses any sleep over the little guy. If they did, what exists would not be allowed.

    Its congress that runs the USA. POTUS is just a talking head. Yes, he may have veto power but a super majority overrides.


    Who wins, who loses - I don't really care. The impact on me is minimal, realistically non-existent. Really a good place to be in.
    Again, cool story, but you still voted for the racist petulant baby: even mailed in an absentee ballot for him.

    So you clearly do care on some level.

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    I voted as it is not only a privilege but a responsibility. If you shirk your responsibility and do not vote you do not have the right to voice an opinion.

    As far as the Trump presidency - he is a failure as a politically correct taking head. But, he is the talking head of the republican party - and, they, the republican party did not want him - now they are stuck with him, the republican party is very happy there are term limits for the presidency, although they would never admit it.

    My vote, although cast for Trump, was more a vote for the status quo. NOT the status quo of protests and riots, but the status quo of the money machine, aka the economy, but, actually the financial markets (quite different from the economy). My vote is for my wallet. All that matters to me is my family which is supported by my wallet, my nest egg, which is invested in and supported by the financial markets. A single example - the shortest bear market in history.

    Biden has said he will eliminate the Trump Tax Cuts. That will disrupt the financial markets. Possibly a significant disruption that could cost me, and my family, considerable cash. Speaking only for myself - there is a reason I cast my vote for the talking head of the republican party Donald Trump. That is the reason. I did briefly considered the democrats talking head and decided to vote for the status quo.

    But, once again - as a Thailand resident the winner of the 2020 US presidential election will have very little impact on myself or my family. I have stacked the deck to the best of my ability to minimize the elections impact on myself.

    The world will continue to turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    I don't really care
    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    I voted as it is not only a privilege but a responsibility. If you shirk your responsibility and do not vote you do not have the right to voice an opinion.

    As far as the Trump presidency - he is a failure as a politically correct taking head. But, he is the talking head of the republican party - and, they, the republican party did not want him - now they are stuck with him, the republican party is very happy there are term limits for the presidency, although they would never admit it.

    My vote, although cast for Trump, was more a vote for the status quo. NOT the status quo of protests and riots, but the status quo of the money machine, aka the economy, but, actually the financial markets (quite different from the economy). My vote is for my wallet. All that matters to me is my family which is supported by my wallet, my nest egg, which is invested in and supported by the financial markets. A single example - the shortest bear market in history.

    Biden has said he will eliminate the Trump Tax Cuts. That will disrupt the financial markets. Possibly a significant disruption that could cost me, and my family, considerable cash. Speaking only for myself - there is a reason I cast my vote for the talking head of the republican party Donald Trump. That is the reason. I did briefly considered the democrats talking head and decided to vote for the status quo.

    But, once again - as a Thailand resident the winner of the 2020 US presidential election will have very little impact on myself or my family. I have stacked the deck to the best of my ability to minimize the elections impact on myself.

    The world will continue to turn.
    Clearly.

    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    he is a failure as a politically correct taking head
    He's a failure as a man, a human being, and a president.

    He's a racist wannabe dictator who has divided the country and made the US a laughingstock. He's a criminal and a fraud and a cheat.

    That's what you support.

    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    My vote, although cast for Trump, was more a vote for the status quo. NOT the status quo of protests and riots, but the status quo of the money machine, aka the economy, but, actually the financial markets (quite different from the economy). My vote is for my wallet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    Biden has said he will eliminate the Trump Tax Cuts. That will disrupt the financial markets.
    It will stabilize overheated markets, not disrupt them. In fact, the markets have been in perpetual disruption since 2018 as a result of an economy in shambles.



    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    ... could cost me, and my family, considerable cash.
    If it does, good. You and your types have it coming.

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    ^^ Is this an example of a legitimate discussion devolving into the deep dark abyss of name calling? Yes, it is

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    Harden up precious, if the shoe-fits.

    There are 200,000+ and counting Americans dead and you've voted for an abomination of a man... Because economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elche View Post
    overheated markets,
    4 signs the stock market is overheating
    by Jesse Solomon @JesseSolomonCNNJuly 1, 2014: 12:10 AM ET

    We've been hearing about this overheated market for a long, long, long time. I made a decent return playing the tortoise, not the hare.

    Thing is - let the professionals handle your money - Diversification, Diversification, Diversification.


    The current PE ratio of the S&P 500 is around 20. Lets say that after this coronacrisis ordeal that after 1 year the PE ratio has risen to 25. That's still a yield of 4%, which is pretty good if you consider that a 10 year treasury bond yields 0.6%. If anything the stock market was overvalued in the past e.g. back in 2005 when 10 year treasury yielded 4% and the S&P had a PE of 20 (Yield of 5%), which isn't that much more compared to the 10 hear treasury yield.

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