1. #27401
    Thailand Expat
    Headworx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    Jomtien
    Posts
    4,867
    Donald Trump has joined the chat.
    .
    .
    .
    Donald Trump has left the chat.

  2. #27402
    En route
    Cujo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Last Online
    Today @ 09:05 PM
    Location
    Reality.
    Posts
    30,883

    'Conmen, grifters and criminals': why is Trump's circle so at odds with the law?

    To live outside the law, Bob Dylan sang, you must be honest. It also helps, apparently, to stay as clear as possible from Donald Trump, whose inner circle of advisers has suffered steady attrition since 2017, through a series of encounters with the criminal justice system.


    On Thursday, the former White House strategist Steve Bannon became the latest Trump intimate to be taken into custody, when the Chinese-owned yacht on which he was sunburning was boarded by agents of the US Postal Service.


    Bannon was accused of defrauding people who gave tens of millions to a private fund which existed, Bannon claimed, to finance the construction of a wall on the border with Mexico. The real purpose of that fund and others, federal prosecutors say, was to cover the “luxury” lifestyle expenses of Bannon and his fellow defendants.


    “This entire fiasco is to stop people who want to build the wall,” Bannon declared outside a Manhattan courthouse, proclaiming his innocence.


    Depending on how – and whom – you count, Bannon was the seventh former close Trump adviser to be arrested, face charges, plead guilty or to be convicted of a crime since the 45th president took office.


    Former campaign chairman Paul Manafort (convicted: tax fraud, bank fraud) is in home confinement due to Covid-19; former adviser Roger Stone (convicted: obstruction, false statements) received a presidential commutation; former adviser Michael Cohen (guilty plea: campaign finance crimes, lying to Congress) is in home confinement; former national security adviser Michael Flynn (guilty plea: lying to the FBI) is awaiting a ruling on a request to dismiss charges; former adviser Rick Gates (guilty plea: lying to investigators) has completed a prison term; and former adviser George Papadopoulos (guilty plea: lying) has completed a prison term.


    When I see a swarm of conmen around one man, in this case Trump, experience suggests they recognize one of their own
    Patrick Cotter
    “I believe it unprecedented in any US administration for so many of the closest circle of persons around the president to have been shown to be conmen, grifters and base criminals,” said Patrick Cotter, a former federal prosecutor who was part of the team that convicted the Gambino family boss John Gotti, in an email.


    “While previous administrations had their share of those trying to personally profit and those willing to break the law to serve the political interests of the president, what is unique about the Trump administration is the large number of people in direct contact with the president, often for years, who are revealed to be out-and-out fraudsters for whom crime is apparently part of their lifestyle and character.”


    As his re-election campaign enters full swing, Trump has made an effort to brand himself as the president of “law and order”. But Trump himself has at times appeared to sail within dangerous distance of criminal legal hazards.


    During impeachment proceedings that straddled the turn of this year, Democrats and the Republican senator Mitt Romney voted to remove Trump for abuse of power.


    Donald Trump’s former campaign manager Paul Manafort arrives for an arraignment hearing on mortgage fraud charges in Manhattan in June 2019.
    Donald Trump’s former campaign manager Paul Manafort arrives for an arraignment hearing on mortgage fraud charges in Manhattan in June 2019. Photograph: Justin Lane/EPA
    Robert Mueller detailed nearly a dozen potential instances of obstruction of justice by Trump during the Russia investigation, though the special counsel did not propose criminal charges.




    Before that, Trump paid $2m in fines and closed his family’s “charity” foundation, admitting it had used donations to pay campaign and business expenses.


    The prosecutors in that case, in the New York state attorney general’s office, are currently investigating Trump’s banking and tax conduct, while federal prosecutors in New York – the ones bringing charges against Bannon – are also looking at alleged graft by Trump’s inauguration committee.


    The Manhattan district attorney is investigating Trump’s tax records, as are multiple congressional committees.


    Trump says he is a victim of a witch-hunt by politically motivated prosecutors. His critics say that in fact the full scope of Trump’s alleged criminal conduct is unknown because he is using the power of the presidency to block details from coming to light.


    Continued arrests of former associates could at some stage pose a threat to Trump himself, if one decided to cooperate with prosecutors against Trump, legal analysts have said. But past speculation about the dangers of such a “flipped” witness have not been borne out – in part perhaps because Trump has demonstrated a willingness to pardon his friends for their wrongdoing, decreasing any incentive to “flip”.


    Consider Trump’s clemency for Stone; the justice department’s efforts to drop the case against Flynn, which the courts have not yet granted; attorney general William Barr’s sudden removal of prosecutors seen as threatening to Trump; and Trump’s deployment of the might of the justice department to stop his tax records being handed to state authorities and Congress, in a case that reached the supreme court.


    Barr and Trump have denied using the levers of American justice to prosecute the president’s enemies and protect his friends. But evidence-heavy charging documents against figures in Trump’s orbit keep stacking up.




    US Senate report goes beyond Mueller to lay bare Trump campaign's Russia links
    Read more
    “Why this unprecedented situation?” said Cotter, now a Chicago-based officer with the Greensfelder law firm.


    “My almost 40 years working in criminal law has taught me that criminals of a particular type tend to associate with other criminals of the same type. There is a comfort level and mutual understanding in such associations.


    “So when I see a swarm of conmen buzzing around one particular man, in this case Trump, my experience suggests that it is because they recognize one of their own. And in selecting them to be his confidants, the president also recognized kindred spirits.”


    It just keeps happening. But it has not happened to Trump, yet.
    'Conmen, grifters and criminals': why is Trump's circle so at odds with the law? | Donald Trump | The Guardian

  3. #27403
    Thailand Expat AntRobertson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Last Online
    @
    Posts
    38,737
    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Yep but you have lemmings like deeks/boontard who swallow he tweets like gospil.
    At one point I thought there were valid reasons for supporting Trump. I'm convinced now that if you can't see him for what he is and his lies and how fundamentally unfit he is for office then you must either simply not care because you're an idiot or an outright racist and like his message of hate (or a combo of both).

  4. #27404
    En route
    Cujo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Last Online
    Today @ 09:05 PM
    Location
    Reality.
    Posts
    30,883
    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    I have only recently started following Trump on Twatter and the fucked thing about it is realizing I've only ever seen the tip of the iceberg in regards to his lies and insanity.

    He lies constantly, it just never ends, and the only pause is when he's whining about being the victim. He is truly deranged.
    I just don't get how any reasonable minded person can find his shit acceptable.

  5. #27405
    Thailand Expat AntRobertson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Last Online
    @
    Posts
    38,737
    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    I just don't get how any reasonable minded person can find his shit acceptable.
    It's legit baffling.

    Just now on Twatter he has claimed that the Dems took the word "God" out of the pledge at the DNC... It's something that's ridiculously easy to disprove but the Trumptards are completely up in arms over it.


  6. #27406
    En route
    Cujo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Last Online
    Today @ 09:05 PM
    Location
    Reality.
    Posts
    30,883
    Just like at a recent presser where someone straight up asked him if he regretted all the lies someone needs toask him straight up what church/faith he belongs to and what Church he attends.

  7. #27407
    En route
    Cujo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Last Online
    Today @ 09:05 PM
    Location
    Reality.
    Posts
    30,883



    Last edited by Cujo; 22-08-2020 at 09:00 PM.

  8. #27408
    En route
    Cujo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Last Online
    Today @ 09:05 PM
    Location
    Reality.
    Posts
    30,883
    I can't figure out whethere the title is ironic or trumptards actually find this trump being a dick funny.
    Is this a joke or is the poster serious?

    Last edited by Cujo; 22-08-2020 at 09:46 PM.

  9. #27409
    Thailand Expat harrybarracuda's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Last Online
    @
    Posts
    70,038
    President Donald Trump-wpnan200821-jpg

  10. #27410
    Hansum Man! panama hat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Last Online
    Today @ 05:38 PM
    Location
    Way, Way South of the border now - thank God!
    Posts
    24,560
    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Just now on Twatter he has claimed that the Dems took the word "God" out of the pledge at the DNC... It's something that's ridiculously easy to disprove but the Trumptards are completely up in arms over it.
    Don't we remember at the start of his presidency everyone was so busy fact-checking him but had to give up as he was lying so much that correcting his lies just fell too far behind his newest lies.

    People voting for him simply need their heads examined - he has done and achieved very little that benefits the population as a whole.

  11. #27411
    Thailand Expat
    Buckaroo Banzai's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Last Online
    Today @ 09:12 PM
    Location
    My couch
    Posts
    1,026
    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Don't we remember at the start of his presidency everyone was so busy fact-checking him but had to give up as he was lying so much that correcting his lies just fell too far behind his newest lies.

    People voting for him simply need their heads examined - he has done and achieved very little that benefits the population as a whole.
    I have said it many times. To me the fact that trump has some support is much scarier than trump. One way or another, if not this election the next, trump will be gone, but those who support him will remain. gumming up the wheels of democracy.
    How can everyone have an equal vote when some are so easily manipulated and so fundamentally misinformed? If there is such an easily manipulated resource wouldn't other trump attempt to use it for their own selfish interests also?
    George Will said it best IMO when he said " once a bell has been rung , it can not be unrung"
    The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up.

  12. #27412
    Hansum Man! panama hat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Last Online
    Today @ 05:38 PM
    Location
    Way, Way South of the border now - thank God!
    Posts
    24,560
    Well said

  13. #27413
    Hansum Man! panama hat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Last Online
    Today @ 05:38 PM
    Location
    Way, Way South of the border now - thank God!
    Posts
    24,560
    Trump arguing with himself


  14. #27414
    Thailand Expat David48atTD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2016
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    Palace Far from Worries
    Posts
    11,243
    ^ Made me smile.

  15. #27415
    Thailand Expat peaches's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Last Online
    Today @ 12:56 PM
    Location
    issan
    Posts
    1,059
    The POTUS, Donald J Trump......... NEVER stops whinging .

  16. #27416
    Thailand Expat
    Buckaroo Banzai's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Last Online
    Today @ 09:12 PM
    Location
    My couch
    Posts
    1,026
    Secret recording of trump's sister talking about him.
    Last edited by Buckaroo Banzai; 23-08-2020 at 09:31 PM.

  17. #27417
    Hansum Man! panama hat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Last Online
    Today @ 05:38 PM
    Location
    Way, Way South of the border now - thank God!
    Posts
    24,560
    What a guy . . .

  18. #27418
    En route
    Cujo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Last Online
    Today @ 09:05 PM
    Location
    Reality.
    Posts
    30,883
    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    Secret recording of trump's sister talking about him.
    Great stuff. I wonder how she feels about tapes secretely recorded of her speaking being made public.
    I imagine this could backfire if they decide to ignore the content and attack with indignation the fact that secretely recorded tapes have been made public.

  19. #27419
    In Uranus
    bsnub's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Last Online
    @
    Posts
    21,669

    Trump’s sister calls him a liar with “no principles” in secret recordings

    President Donald Trump’s sister, Maryanne Trump Barry, sharply disparaged the president and said she believed he paid a friend to take his SATs in audio recordings published by the Washington Post Saturday night.

    Trump “has no principles — none,” Barry said in the recordings provided to the Post. “It’s the phoniness of it all. It’s the phoniness and this cruelty. Donald is cruel.”

    Barry, a former federal judge, made the comments in a set of secret recordings in 2018 and 2019 by her niece, Mary Trump, who has emerged as a fierce critic of the president.

    Barry said that Donald Trump “doesn’t read,” that “he was a brat,” and that she did his homework for him, adding that she believes he paid a friend to take the standardized tests that allowed him to transfer from Fordham University to the University of Pennsylvania.

    The allegation that Trump cheated on a college entrance exam (which he denies) was one of the oft-questioned parts of a book by Mary Trump released earlier this year, in which she describes the dramatic inner workings of the Trump family and how it shaped the president’s psyche. The recordings with Barry, provided to the Post to substantiate the allegation, seem to be one of the underpinnings of her book.

    There’s more to the story, however: Mary Trump’s spokesperson told the Post she recorded her aunt to gather evidence supporting her claim that she was cheated out of a significant portion of her inheritance after her grandfather and family patriarch Fred Trump Sr. died in 1999.

    Barry, Robert Trump, and Donald Trump joined a lawsuit to prevent Mary from getting a larger inheritance, and she eventually settled the matter in 2001, after being told the estate was worth $30 million. She later came to believe it was worth around $1 billion and the family had lied about its value.

    In her book, Mary Trump said she became a major source in a 2018 New York Times investigation into the sprawling financial corruption of the larger Trump family, who amassed their wealth in part due to tax dodges.


    The Trump family has a long history of tax evasion and deceptive business practices

    The publication of Maryanne Trump Barry’s comments marks the first time a member of the family besides Mary Trump has been heard disparaging Donald Trump, and his history of deception. But Barry herself has been implicated in the Trump family’s shady financial activity.

    The 2018 Times investigation revealed a pattern of tax evasion that allowed Donald Trump to receive the current equivalent of at least $413 million from his father. Fred Trump, the family’s patriarch whose real estate business was the foundation of its wealth, further enriched the family by hiding millions of dollars of gifts through shell companies.

    As David Barstow, Susanne Craig, and Russ Buettner of the Times reported in 2018:

    Much of [the $413 million] came to Mr. Trump because he helped his parents dodge taxes. He and his siblings set up a sham corporation to disguise millions of dollars in gifts from their parents, records and interviews show. Records indicate that Mr. Trump helped his father take improper tax deductions worth millions more. He also helped formulate a strategy to undervalue his parents’ real estate holdings by hundreds of millions of dollars on tax returns, sharply reducing the tax bill when those properties were transferred to him and his siblings.

    The IRS didn’t catch on, and Fred Trump transferred more than $1 billion to his children. The Trumps paid only about $52.2 million in taxes, rather than the at least $550 million they could have been forced to pay.

    Barry was the co-owner of one of those shell companies used to draw cash from their father’s businesses by marking up purchases already made by employees rather than buying equipment for Fred Trump’s buildings, the Times reported, as it claimed to do. The millions of dollars siphoned through the company went — untaxed — to Barry, Donald Trump, and their other siblings.

    In 2018, a lawyer for Donald Trump denied the Times’s reporting, saying the allegations of “fraud and tax evasion are 100 percent false, and highly defamatory,” adding, “there was no fraud or tax evasion by anyone.” In Mary Trump’s book, Too Much and Never Enough, she said Barry denied a willing part in any scheme. “I met with Maryanne shortly after the article ran. She denied all of it. She was just a ‘girl,’ after all. When a piece of paper was put in front of her, she’d signed it. ... She seemed unconcerned that there would be any repercussions,” Mary Trump wrote.

    But after the Times’s investigation was published, a judicial conduct council launched an investigation into how Barry benefited from tax schemes and may have influenced actions taken by the family over the decades. The Times reported last year that Barry, now 83, retired 10 days after a court official told complainants that the investigation would get “the full attention” of the council, ending the investigation. (Barry was appointed as a federal judge by President Ronald Reagan. She complained in Mary Trump’s recordings that Donald Trump long held his “only favor” to her over her head: asking his lawyer Roy Cohn to push Reagan to appoint more female judges.)

    Donald Trump has claimed on the campaign trail to be a self-made billionaire, and he has built trust with many voters on the premise that his business expertise can benefit the country. But the Times’s reporting illustrates how Trump — who was earning $200,000 annually in today’s dollars by the age of 3 — was propped up by family wealth.
    The beneficiaries of the family scheme are now among the most powerful people in America. That will be on full display beginning Monday, when the Republican National Convention will convene with part digital, part in-person events throughout the week.

    Some of the key speakers at the convention will be members of the Trump family. In addition to the president, Donald Trump Jr., Melania Trump, Ivanka Trump, Eric Trump, and Tiffany Trump are all slated to appear, making it a true family affair.

    The real Maryanne Trump scandal is the Trump family’s money, not the secret recordings - Vox





  20. #27420
    Hangin' Around cyrille's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last Online
    @
    Posts
    21,000
    I see Kellyanne Conway is quitting the Trump camp.

    Supposedly because her kid/s have moved from school to university and this will take up huge amounts of her time.

    They were studying from home when 'at' School and will be studying from home when 'at' University, though.

    Might it be that she's been pondering the words 'Trump', 'complete' and 'meltdown' ?

  21. #27421
    Thailand Expat harrybarracuda's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Last Online
    @
    Posts
    70,038
    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    I see Kellyanne Conway is quitting the Trump camp.

    Supposedly because her kid/s have moved from school to university and this will take up huge amounts of her time.

    They were studying from home when 'at' School and will be studying from home when 'at' University, though.

    Might it be that she's been pondering the words 'Trump', 'complete' and 'meltdown' ?

    Daughter quitting twatter for "mental health" reasons?

  22. #27422
    Thailand Expat

    Join Date
    Nov 2017
    Last Online
    07-10-2020 @ 02:02 PM
    Posts
    1,640
    Seventy days until the election.

  23. #27423
    Thailand Expat
    crackerjack101's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2016
    Last Online
    Today @ 06:02 PM
    Posts
    5,570

  24. #27424
    Thailand Expat
    Buckaroo Banzai's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Last Online
    Today @ 09:12 PM
    Location
    My couch
    Posts
    1,026
    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    I see Kellyanne Conway is quitting the Trump camp.

    Supposedly because her kid/s have moved from school to university and this will take up huge amounts of her time.

    They were studying from home when 'at' School and will be studying from home when 'at' University, though.

    Might it be that she's been pondering the words 'Trump', 'complete' and 'meltdown' ?
    The rats leaving a sinking ship.

  25. #27425
    En route
    Cujo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Last Online
    Today @ 09:05 PM
    Location
    Reality.
    Posts
    30,883
    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    The rats leaving a sinking ship.
    Could be, maybe they see the righting on the wall.
    Mind You, George play's for the other team.

Page 1097 of 1140 FirstFirst ... 9759799710471087108910901091109210931094109510961097109810991100110111021103110411051107 ... LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •