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    Yet more clear obstruction of justice.

    Washington (CNN)In a fast-escalating crisis Friday night, Attorney General William Barr tried to oust Geoffrey Berman, the powerful US attorney for the Southern District of New York who has investigated a number of associates of President Donald Trump, but Berman defied him by refusing to step down.

    In an extraordinary statement sent roughly an hour after Barr said Berman was set to leave the office, Berman said he had learned of his purported exit from a press release.

    "I have not resigned, and have no intention of resigning, my position, to which I was appointed by the Judges of the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York. I will step down when a presidentially appointed nominee is confirmed by the Senate," Berman said. "Until then, our investigations will move forward without delay or interruption."

    The standoff opens up a fresh crisis at the Justice Department, places the leadership of the most prominent federal prosecutors office outside Washington in a precarious position and again raises questions about Barr's willingness to steer the department to suit Trump's political agenda.


    Berman's rebuttal came about an hour after
    the Department of Justice announced Trump intends to nominate Jay Clayton, the chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission, who has never been a prosecutor.
    Geoffrey Berman, powerful US attorney who investigated Trump associates refuses to step down after Barr tries to push him out - CNNPolitics

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    ^ More on this:

    June 19, 2020


    Tonight saw a Friday night news dump that will go into the history books.
    Trump tried to fire the US Attorney from the Southern District of New York, Geoffrey S. Berman, who has managed a series of cases against Trump and his allies, including Trump fixer Michael Cohen, Trump lawyer Rudolph Giuliani, and Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, who were indicted for funneling Russian money to Republican candidates for office. Berman is reported to be investigating Trump’s finances, among many other things.

    It happened like this: Attorney General William Barr issued a statement announcing that Berman would be stepping down and that Trump would nominate Jay Clayton to replace him. Clayton has never been a prosecutor. He is currently the head of the Securities and Exchange Commission, but before he took that position he was a lawyer who, among other things, represented Deutsche Bank. Deutsche Bank is the only bank that would work with Trump after his bankruptcies. It might have given him loans he did not repay, and the Russian money-laundering that landed the bank in legal trouble might have helped Trump.

    Legal analyst and Congressional staffer Daniel Goldman noted that this whole scenario was unusual. Normally, when a US Attorney leaves, that person’s deputy takes over. Bringing in a replacement from elsewhere meant that “Trump/Barr did not want anyone at SDNY running the office—likely because there was a serious disagreement.”

    But then things got crazier. Berman issued his own statement, saying “I learned in a press release from the Attorney General tonight that I was ‘stepping down’ as United States Attorney. I have not resigned, and have no intention of resigning, my position to which I was appointed by the Judges of the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York. I will step down when a presidentially appointed nominee is confirmed by the Senate. Until then, our investigations will move forward without delay or interruption. I cherish every day that I work with the men and women of this Office to pursue justice without fear or favor—and intend to ensure that this Office’s important cases continue unimpeded.”

    What’s Berman saying? Well, it might be that Trump’s preference for “acting,” rather than Senate-confirmed, officials has come back to bite him. Berman was not Senate-confirmed; he is an interim U.S. Attorney. By law, the Attorney General can appoint an interim U.S. Attorney for 120 days. At the end of that time, the court can appoint that person indefinitely.
    Berman was one of those interim appointees, put in place by Trump’s first Attorney General, Jefferson Beauregard Sessions.

    Berman’s appointment raised an outcry because he was handpicked by Trump. The U.S. Attorney for the SDNY oversees Manhattan and thus the president’s businesses and at least nine Trump properties. Trump went out of his way to take the unusual step of personally interviewing Berman, who donated $2,700 to the Trump campaign, served on the presidential transition team, and was a partner at the law firm where Trump’s lawyer Rudolph Giuliani is a member. Democrats vowed to block Berman’s nomination, but never got the chance because Sessions used the workaround so Berman would not come before the Senate.

    Now, this means that because Berman was appointed by the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York, not the president, he apparently cannot be removed except by the court, or, possibly, by the president… but not by Barr. Lawyers are fighting over who, exactly, can remove Berman, but that itself says that any challenge he files will land in the courts for months… likely until after the election.

    And that’s another notable thing about Berman’s statement. He suggests he is being fired because the administration wants to delay or interrupt an investigation, and his language suggests that both he and the administration know exactly what that investigation is. There are a number of reasons the SDNY might be examining the finances of the president or his family, but former National Security Advisor John Bolton suggested another reason in his forthcoming book: he apparently claims Trump assured Turkey’s autocratic leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan he would fill the SDNY with his own loyalists, which would enable him to do Erdogan a political favor.

    As Berman’s predecessor in the job, Preet Bharara tweeted, “Why does a president get rid of his own hand-picked US Attorney in SDNY on a Friday night, less than 5 months before the election?” President of the Center for American Progress Neera Tanden noted: “To attempt a Friday night massacre 5 months before an election means there’s a pretty big investigation they are trying to kill.”

    It seems worth noting that the Supreme Court is about to hand down a decision on whether Deutsche Bank and Trump’s accountants have to hand Trump’s financial records over to Congress and to the Manhattan district attorney, which might well spark legal trouble for the president in New York.
    Law professor Stephen Vladeck also asked us to keep in mind that Barr “out-and-out * lied * in a written statement—and in a context in which there could have been little question to him that Berman would publicly call him out for doing so… And he did it anyway.” “Something * really * stinks,” Vladeck concluded.
    Something else stinks about this crisis, too, and that is the Tulsa rally the president originally scheduled for tonight. Widespread objection to holding a Trump rally on Juneteenth—the historic celebration of Black freedom-- in Tulsa, where a race massacre destroyed the Black community of Greenwood in 1921, forced him to reschedule for tomorrow. But had the rally been held, with media focus on disturbances at it and on the spread of coronavirus there, it seems likely that Berman’s firing would not have gotten much attention.

    Indeed, it has seemed all day as if Trump was deliberately stoking trouble in Tulsa. He began today by tweeting a threat: “Any protesters, anarchists, agitators, looters or lowlifes who are going to Oklahoma please understand, you will not be treated like you have been in New York, Seattle, or Minneapolis. It will be a much different scene!” (Americans have a constitutional right to protest.)

    Then he made sure his supporters would be in the streets. In consultation with the Secret Service, the Tulsa police chief had asked Tulsa’s mayor to declare a curfew around the BOK Center where the rally will be held. He did so. But Trump pressured the mayor to rescind the curfew, which the mayor did. Trump tweeted "I just spoke to the highly respected Mayor of Tulsa, G.T. Bynum, who informed me there will be no curfew tonight or tomorrow for our many supporters attending the # MAGA Rally…. Enjoy yourselves - thank you to Mayor Bynum!”

    This crisis feels big. Trump and Barr know an investigation is out there barreling toward the president, and they are willing to take extraordinary steps, steps that undermine our democracy and threaten our citizenry, to stop it.
    Press On Regardless

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    This is brilliant. Barr, Berman is stepping down. Berman, uh no fuck you very much.

    But yet again, DOJ has been so fucking inept, you almost have to wonder if people there are not that happy being used as Trumps attack dog/bitch. Not Barr obviously, but those under him.

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    This is the WTF thing for me. Shouldn't people with relevant expertise be in the field be appointed to the relevant field????
    Trump would nominate Jay Clayton to replace him. Clayton has never been a prosecutor. He is currently the head of the Securities and Exchange Commission,

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    Normally yes. But the senate is controlled by lickspittle rebublicans.

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    The rally live



    Not one trumptard wearing a mask.QAnd apparently no black people would agree to stand behind him.

    And the lies, oh the lies.

    AND THE TRUMPTARDS ARE SWALLOWING IT.

    Oh fuck, he claps himself.

    OK, fuck that, I can't listen to the BS. I'll get the summary tomorrow.
    “If we stop testing right now we’d have very few cases, if any.” Donald J Trump.

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    Sorry, that was a previous rally. oops.
    Anyhoo

    John Bolton: judge declines to block tell-all Trump book
    John Bolton: judge declines to block tell-all Trump book | US news | The Guardian
    Let the games begin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thailazer View Post
    Tonight saw a Friday night news dump that will go into the history books.
    Trump tried to fire the US Attorney from the Southern District of New York, Geoffrey S. Berman, who has managed a series of cases against Trump and his allies, including Trump fixer Michael Cohen, Trump lawyer Rudolph Giuliani, and Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, who were indicted for funneling Russian money to Republican candidates for office. Berman is reported to be investigating Trump’s finances, among many other things.



    I normally don't read a wall of text, but this entire post by thailazer is an excellent read

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    he is such a fcuktard


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    ^ Yet he never gets pulled up on it and there are no consequences.

    One can ony hope that like any other wannabe dictoator he will be paraded to jail in handcuffs, his gelled hair a mess and a two week stubble adorning his by then whiter than white face

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    Smaller crowds in Tulsa for the snake oil salesman , blame someone.


    ....... that’s right, it’s the media’s fault

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    President Donald Trump-screen-shot-2020-06-21-12-a


    Social Darwinism will take care of a few more

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    President Donald Trump-screen-shot-2020-06-21-12-a


    Social Darwinism will take care of a few more
    Good grief.
    (They should listen to Trump and stop testing people then they wouldn't have these cases.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Not one trumptard wearing a mask
    There are permanently in many cities large gathering at peaceful and not so peaceful demonstrations BLM and statues removal, etc.

    It seems that the non-masks do not at all matter like the non-masks at other gatherings do... (how is called such standard?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    There are permanently in many cities large gathering at peaceful and not so peaceful demonstrations BLM and statues removal, etc.

    It seems that the non-masks do not at all matter like the non-masks at other gatherings do... (how is called such standard?)
    ^WTF, slow down and try and write something comprehensible.

    This may be of help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    ^WTF, slow down and try and write something comprehensible.
    I installed a Klondyke translator. Here ya go AO.

    Protestors and rioters not wearing masks either.

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    US President Donald Trump presses ahead with Tulsa rally after staffers test positive

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    President Donald Trump has pressed ahead with a comeback rally amid the coronavirus pandemic by declaring "the silent majority is stronger than ever before".

    But what was meant to be a show of political force was instead met with thousands of empty seats and new coronavirus cases among his campaign staff.


    Mr Trump tried to explain away the crowd size, blaming it on the media for declaring "don't go, don't come, don't do anything" while insisting there were protesters outside "doing bad things".

    News of the infections came just a short time before Mr Trump departed for Oklahoma.

    Mr Trump raged to aides that the cases were made public, according to two White House and campaign officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorised to speak publicly about private conversations.


    Donald Trump says he ordered slowdown in coronavirus testing in speech to Tulsa rally - ABC News
    “Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    It seems that the non-masks do not at all matter like the non-masks at other gatherings do... (how is called such standard?)
    introspection would tell you that stupidity crosses all political and class diviides

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    introspection would tell you that stupidity crosses all political and class diviides
    Yes but I think we can all agree that stupidity is more prevalent among Trump supporters than non trump supporters evidenced by the fact that...well, they support Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Yes but I think we can all agree that stupidity is more prevalent among Trump supporters than non trump supporters evidenced by the fact that...well, they support Trump.
    Well put.


    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    ^WTF, slow down and try and write something comprehensible.
    Klondyke is like chico without the invective and reasoning

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    So much winning!

    A US judge has rejected a request by President Donald Trump to stop the publication of a memoir by his former National Security Adviser, John Bolton.

    The justice department argued that the book had not been properly vetted.

    Washington DC District Court Judge Royce Lamberth said the government had "failed to establish that an injunction would prevent irreparable harm".
    John Bolton: Judge rejects Trump bid to ban ex-adviser's book - BBC News

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    sign language


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    You need to clean your nails, Baldrick.

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    Did K-pop fans and TikTok teens sabotage Trump’s Tulsa rally with ‘no-shows’?

    Trump had boasted nearly 1 million sign-ups for venue with 19,000 seats


    It seemed many were teens who reserved tickets with no plan to attend

    MORE Did K-pop fans and TikTok teens sabotage Trump’s Tulsa rally with ‘no-shows’? | South China Morning Post

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    ^Just saw some footage of the rally on the news, the highlight was him showing the attendees he could drink a guess of water using just one hand. I'm not even joking

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