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    The Episcopal bishop of Washington DC has said she is “outraged” after officers used teargas to clear a crowd of peaceful protesters from near the White House to make way for Donald Trump.


    Minutes after speaking in the Rose Garden about the importance of “law and order” to quell the unrest over the killing of George Floyd by Minneapolis police, Trump walked across the street to St John’s Episcopal church, where every American president since James Madison has worshipped.


    But not before police used teargas and force to clear the streets for Trump’s photo opportunity.
    Once he arrived at St John’s, Trump held up a Bible that read “God is love”, while posing in front of the church’s sign.


    The Right Rev Mariann Budde, the Episcopal bishop of Washington, told the Washington Post: “I am the bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington and was not given even a courtesy call, that they would be clearing [the area] with tear gas so they could use one of our churches as a prop.”


    Trump’s message is at odds with the values of love and tolerance espoused by the church, Budde said, before describing the president’s visit as an opportunity to use the church, and a Bible, as a “backdrop”.


    “Let me be clear, the President just used a Bible, the most sacred text of the Judeo-Christian tradition, and one of the churches of my diocese, without permission, as a backdrop for a message antithetical to the teachings of Jesus,” she told CNN.

    “We align ourselves with those seeking justice for the death of George Floyd and countless others. And I just can’t believe what my eyes have seen,” she added.


    “I don’t want President Trump speaking for St John’s. We so dissociate ourselves from the messages of this president,” she told the Washington Post. “We hold the teachings of our sacred texts to be so, so grounding to our lives and everything we do, and it is about love of neighbor and sacrificial love and justice.”


    Other religious leaders echoed her comments.


    Presiding Bishop Michael Curry, Primate of the Episcopal church, accused the president of using the church and Bible for “partisan political purposes”. He added: “For the sake of George Floyd, for all who have wrongly suffered, and for the sake of us all, we need leaders to help us to be “one nation, under God, with liberty and justice for all.”

    Father Edward Beck, a Catholic priest, tweeted: '“Has the Bible ever been used in a more disingenuous and exploitative way?”


    Bishop 'outraged' over Trump's church photo op during George Floyd protests | US news | The Guardian

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    ^ and that was the final nail in his coffin. He is not re-electable and it will be interesting to see how the republican party reacts between now and November.

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    Be interesting to see if he keeps to form and twitter attacks those that criticise him.
    How well he'll do if he attacks a bishop will be interesting to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    ^ and that was the final nail in his coffin. He is not re-electable and it will be interesting to see how the republican party reacts between now and November.
    Unfortunately there are still pathetic jesus wheezers who support him. Wankers.

    Trump'''s church visit appals local bishop: '''Everything he has said inflames violence''' | Stuff.co.nz

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    COVID death toll has passed 100k, the country is in turmoil, unemployment is at an all time high...




    ...and the POTUS is occupying himself by picking pointless fights with Twitter on Twitter and the WHO. He’s just showing what was said all along: he’s an empty suit, weak, and a conman who is unfit for office.

    In a sad week for America, Trump has fled from his duty (opinion) - CNN

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    ^This is what happens when you give a reality tv actor the keys to the White House.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headworx View Post
    ^This is what happens when you give a reality tv actor the keys to the White House.
    Exactly. How any one can support him at this point is beyond me*




    *Other than Dragonfly being a contrarian and turd-polishing as per**




    **And nobody takes that seriously anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    *Other than Dragonfly being a contrarian and turd-polishing as per**
    What do you think his European "friends" say when he tells them he is a Trump supporter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    What do you think his European "friends" say when he tells them he is a Trump supporter?
    I actually don't think he does.

    He just does here / online because he likes to take an opposite point of view from the majority. And logic. And facts. And...


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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    What do you think his European "friends" say when he tells them he is a Trump supporter?
    Friends . . . do the emaciated druggies he pays to blow count as friends?



    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    COVID death toll has passed 100k, the country is in turmoil, unemployment is at an all time high...
    He really loves the idea of commanding troops, cops, secret service . . . as he was such an utter failure in real life

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    Surprise! Trump’s tough man act didn’t do a thing. Curfew violations and rioting again last night.

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    Trump supporter Tucker Carlson last night on his show.


    “If you can’t keep a Fox News correspondent from getting attacked directly across the street from your house, how can you protect my family?” Carlson said on his show. “How are you going to protect the country? How are you trying?”


    He continued: “On Twitter the next morning, the president reassured America that he and his family were just fine. The federally funded bodyguards had kept them safe. He did not mention protecting the rest of the nation, much of which was then on fire. He seemed aware only of himself.”

    Fox News’ Tucker Carlson goes after Trump and Kushner over protests - POLITICO

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    ....and the show continues on.
    Untethered

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    ^^ also:

    "'No matter what,' they'll tell you," Carlson said of a handful of advisers around the president, "'our voters aren't going anywhere. The trailer parks are rock-solid. What choice do they have? They've got to vote for us.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Trump supporter Tucker Carlson last night on his show.


    “If you can’t keep a Fox News correspondent from getting attacked directly across the street from your house, how can you protect my family?” Carlson said on his show. “How are you going to protect the country? How are you trying?”


    He continued: “On Twitter the next morning, the president reassured America that he and his family were just fine. The federally funded bodyguards had kept them safe. He did not mention protecting the rest of the nation, much of which was then on fire. He seemed aware only of himself.”

    Fox News’ Tucker Carlson goes after Trump and Kushner over protests - POLITICO
    Well that's a start.

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    He continued: “On Twitter the next morning, the president reassured America that he and his family were just fine. The federally funded bodyguards had kept them safe. He did not mention protecting the rest of the nation, much of which was then on fire. He seemed aware only of himself.”
    Oh so now he's feeling threatened he's suddenly aware that Trump's a narcissistic and inept tosser who only cares about himself!?

    Fuck Carlson and all those that lent him legitimacy and excused his lies.

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    I’m wondering if he opened it, and read from “two Corinthians”?



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    Or how about James 5: 1-4

    “Now listen, you rich people, weep and wail because of the misery that is coming upon you. Your wealth has rotted, and moths have eaten your clothes. Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have horded wealth in the last days. Look! The wages you failed to pay the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbound View Post
    I’m wondering if he opened it, and read
    Don't be fucking silly.


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    Writing from a Birmingham jail, Martin Luther King Jr famously told his anxious fellow clergymen that his non-violent protests would force those in power to negotiate for racial justice. “The time is always ripe to do right,” he wrote.

    On an early summer evening, two generations later, Donald Trump walked out of the White House, where he’d been hiding in a bunker. Military police had just fired teargas and flash grenades at peaceful protesters to clear his path, so that he could wave a Bible in front of a boarded church.

    For Trump, the time is always ripe to throw kerosene on his own dumpster fire.


    In the week since
    George Floyd was killed by Minneapolis police officers, Trump has watched and tweeted helplessly as the nation he pretends to lead has reached its breaking point. After decades of supposedly legal police beatings and murders, the protests have swept America’s cities more quickly than even coronavirus.


    This is no coincidence of timing. In other crises, in other eras, there have been presidents who understood their most basic duty: to calm the violence and protect the people. In this crisis, however, we have a president who built his entire political career as a gold-painted tower to incite violence.


    We were
    told, by Trump’s supporters four years ago, that we should have taken him seriously but not literally. As it happened, it was entirely appropriate to take him literally, as a serious threat to the rule of law.

    During his 2016 campaign, he encouraged his supporters to assault protesters. “Knock the crap out of them, would you? Seriously, OK,” he said on the day of the Iowa caucuses. “I promise you I will pay for the legal fees.”

    Later in Las Vegas, he said the security guards were too gentle with another protester. “I’d like to punch him in
    the face,” he
    said.


    Sure enough, a protester was
    sucker-punched on his way out of a rally the following month.


    No wonder Trump was
    sued for incitement to riot by three protesters who were assaulted as they left one of his rallies in Kentucky. The case ultimately failed, but only after a judge ruled that Trump recklessly incited violence against an African American woman by a crowd that included known members of hate groups.


    So when he stood, as president, and
    told a crowd of police officers to be violent with arrested citizens, it wasn’t some weird joke or misstatement, no matter what his aides claimed afterwards. “When you see these thugs being thrown into the back of a paddy wagon, you just see ’em thrown in, rough, I said, ‘Please don’t be too nice.’


    “I have to tell you, you know, the laws are so horrendously stacked against us, because for years and years, they’ve been made to protect the criminal,” he added. “Totally made to protect the criminal. Not the officers. You do something wrong, you’re in more jeopardy than they are.”

    Trump was happily inciting police violence a year after charges were dropped against several Baltimore officers who somehow allowed Freddie Gray to die of severe neck injuries in the back of their paddy wagon.

    Then again, Trump took out a full-page ad calling for the death penalty for the five boys and young men wrongfully arrested as the Central Park Five in 1989. Just last year he
    refused to apologise for his racist incitement in that case.


    Trump can no more end today’s violence than he can manage a pandemic that has killed more than 100,000 Americans, or create the jobs that will rescue more than 40 million unemployed.


    Faced with a threefold crisis of racial, health and economic disasters, we have a three-year-old in the Oval Office.


    Our get-tough president started his day by telling the nation’s governors that the world was laughing at them – a recurring nightmare that he loves to project on to everyone else.


    “You have to dominate or you’ll look like a bunch of jerks,” he
    declared, speaking as something of a world-class jerk. “You have to arrest and try people,” he said of the protesters that he called “terrorists”.


    One of the Democratic governor-jerks decided to draw the line at Trump’s rhetoric. “I need to say that people are feeling real pain out there and we’ve got to have national leadership in calling for calm and making sure that we’re addressing the concerns of the legitimate peaceful protesters,”
    said JB Pritzker of Illinois, during a conference call between the president and state governors. “That will help us to bring order.”


    “OK well thank you very much, JB,” our infant-in-chief reportedly responded. “I don’t like your rhetoric much either because I watched it with respect to the coronavirus, and I don’t like your rhetoric much either. I think you could’ve done a much better job, frankly.”


    Yeah. And he probably smells too.


    Later in the day, Trump demonstrated to the world that he had learned precisely nothing in his three and a half years in charge of the world’s most diverse nation.


    “I am your president of law and order,” he
    said in the Rose Garden, as thousands of Americans protested against the nation’s agents of law and order. Trump said he would mobilise “all available federal resources, civilian and military, to stop the rioting and looting” to protect “your second amendment rights”.


    If you’ve missed all the protesters seizing weapons from NRA members, you’re not alone. That last bit was a call to arms for every vigilante to escalate the violence. We have somehow devolved from dog whistle to foghorn politics.


    There is no end of Republican arsonists who have happily torched their lifelong support for states’ rights and their diehard opposition to an all-powerful central government.


    Senator Tom Cotton from Arkansas
    tweeted that the protesters – he prefers to call them terrorists – should face combat troops on American streets. “Let’s see how tough these Antifa terrorists are when they’re facing off with the 101st Airborne Division,” he wrote of the Screaming Eagles, who actually killed real fascists in the D-Day landings.


    Never mind the actual law of the land that expressly
    prohibits the US military from domestic law enforcement, unless a state governor requests it.

    This is a president that cannot decide if he’s serious about shooting looters and protesters or just warning that they might get accidentally shot. “It was spoken as a fact, not as a statement,” Trump helpfully explained on Friday, before spending the weekend threatening them with “vicious dogs” and “ominous weapons”.

    That was a day before he
    said his administration “will always stand against violence, mayhem and disorder”.

    Confused? That’s the point of this endlessly corrupted story where the aggressor is a peace-loving victim, and the victim is a hateful aggressor.

    When he wrote his legendary letter, King was sitting in jail after marching in defiance of a ban against anti-segregation protests. The man who is now a national icon was jailed just one month before the city’s police chief set fire hoses and dogs on children who were also defying the ban.


    “More and more I feel that the people of ill will have used time much more effectively than have the people of good will,” King wrote. “We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the hateful words and actions of the bad people but for the appalling silence of the good people.”


    Trump has used his time in the White House far more effectively than anyone could have imagined. He ignored the dead and dying in Puerto Rico and brutalised the children at the border. He ignored the dead and dying in the pandemic and wants to brutalise the protesters in our cities.


    In five months, the good people can end both his hateful words and their own appalling silence.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ying-to-behold

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbound View Post
    I’m wondering if he opened it, and read from “two Corinthians”?
    Didn't he say about his favourite part of the bible that it was "all of it"? This was right after saying he couldn't decide which was better, the bible or his book - oh, the laughs that received from serious church-going folks . . .

    I think it is ridiculous for a president/leader to have to be/pretend to be religious, but to mock faith like that? Yet his inbred followers loved him for it where they would have pilloried others.

    Standing in front of a closed church, holding up a bible and pointing to it . . . good grief, who came up with that idea to placate the adoring hypocrites?
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Don't be fucking silly.

    That does sound kind of silly, doesn’t it?
    FFS, He was holding it upside down, for a while.


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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbound View Post
    That does sound kind of silly, doesn’t it?
    ...are evangelicals capable of cringe?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Didn't he say about his favourite part of the bible that it was "all of it"? This was right after saying he couldn't decide which was better, the bible or his book - oh, the laughs that received from serious church-going folks . . .

    I think it is ridiculous for a president/leader to have to be/pretend to be religious, but to mock faith like that? Yet his inbred followers loved him for it where they would have pilloried others.

    Standing in front of a closed church, holding up a bible and pointing to it . . . good grief, who came up with that idea to placate the adoring hypocrites?
    I think that last word, pretty much sums up any Trump supporters that are still hanging on.

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