Thread: President Donald Trump

Originally Posted by RPETER65

How do you know the Thai government has blocked the site,seems a little strange that others in Thailand can get the site if it is blocked by the Thai government.

Because the page that comes up says that you mental dwarf

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by RPETER65

How do you know the Thai government has blocked the site,seems a little strange that others in Thailand can get the site if it is blocked by the Thai government.

Because the page that comes up says that you mental dwarf

I have never run across that.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by longway

^ he shifted focus to the leaks now, using the nazi meme, it is deliberate.

Yes, the first thing any dictator must do is take control of the press and discredit what's left where possible.

Do you really believe Trump will try to govern as a dictator,really?

Of course I do. He won't succeed at it, but like all good dictators he can't take criticism at all, and if he feels he has the power to do something about it he will.

Just another reason I take nothing you post seriously

Originally Posted by Humbert

Beside the point innit? The ship has sailed on who was responsible

the ship has sailed because after trump wasn't stopped by the recounts and trying to get electors to switch, the wa post put up a story with "leaks from the intel committee" that "russia hacked the u.s. election". and, since then this has been the narrative that the cia/us media (ny times, washington post, cnn) have been pushing. when in fact there was no such thing. clintons e-mails may have been hacked from her server but they were published by the FBI.

and the wikileaks docs didn't include any hillary's e-mails just some embarrassing emails from the dnc and podesta talking about how bernie won't be given a chance, etc.

of course the u.s. media is terrible at putting things in context, so the average joe (and congressman joe lewis) just think it's simple that russia hacked the u.s. election and come to conclusions like this:

Trump rips John Lewis as Democrats boycott inauguration - POLITICO

“I think the Russians participated in helping this man get elected, and they helped destroy the candidacy of Hillary Clinton,” Lewis told host Chuck Todd. Lewis said he does not view the "president-elect as a legitimate president” and won't attend his inauguration.

Originally Posted by longway

No, thats the reality, there is no hard evidence linking the russians to the hacking. You don't know that because you are in pluto beaming via lalaland.

like trump has said from the beginning, it's quite likely that russia is among many countries that looked at the dnc server, which could include china and allies like the u.k. and israel (this is all "normal" activity among spy agencies, apparently).

though, longway, like you've mentioned there has been no proof presented (even in closed, classified hearings, apparently) that it is russia who handed over the dnc/podesta emails to wikileaks.

instead the CIA waves a shiny object on the other side of the room (CIA reports that putin directed the hacking and now that putin has blackmail info on trump).

Emails were leaked, not hacked - Baltimore Sun

Hack: When someone in a remote location electronically penetrates operating systems, firewalls or other cyber-protection systems and then extracts data. Our own considerable experience, plus the rich detail revealed by Edward Snowden, persuades us that, with NSA's formidable trace capability, it can identify both sender and recipient of any and all data crossing the network.

Leak: When someone physically takes data out of an organization — on a thumb drive, for example — and gives it to someone else, as Edward Snowden and Chelsea Manning did. Leaking is the only way such data can be copied and removed with no electronic trace.

Because NSA can trace exactly where and how any "hacked" emails from the Democratic National Committee or other servers were routed through the network, it is puzzling why NSA cannot produce hard evidence implicating the Russian government and WikiLeaks. Unless we are dealing with a leak from an insider, not a hack, as other reporting suggests. From a technical perspective alone, we are convinced that this is what happened.

Lastly, the CIA is almost totally dependent on NSA for ground truth in this electronic arena. Given Mr. Clapper's checkered record for accuracy in describing NSA activities, it is to be hoped that the director of NSA will join him for the briefing with Mr. Trump.

^ the ship that has sailed is that trump will be president on 20 Jan. The special snowflake brigade is still in denial about that.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by longway

^ he shifted focus to the leaks now, using the nazi meme, it is deliberate.

Yes, the first thing any dictator must do is take control of the press and discredit what's left where possible.

Do you really believe Trump will try to govern as a dictator,really?

Of course I do. He won't succeed at it, but like all good dictators he can't take criticism at all, and if he feels he has the power to do something about it he will.

Just another reason I take nothing you post seriously

You don't take anything seriously enough, because you don't understand.

I'd ask Buttplug to explain it to you, he's glued to Chump's twatter feed and can tell you about all the assaults Trump has launched against his critics. He's a thin skinned narcissistic nancy boy who will do his best to block access to the WH press room for anyone who dares to criticise him.

He's already threatened to try and rein in the First Amendment, but you probably didn't notice that because you're senile.

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

Emails were leaked, not hacked - Baltimore Sun

Highly biased OPED piece short of facts long on speculation with no access to any classified material.
Trump received a classified breifing. He and his entire team acknowledge that the Russians hacked the DNC.
Enjoy the investigation and hearings.
You are in denial. Whoever you are.

Originally Posted by Humbert

Highly biased OPED

hacked vs. leaked was not the main point of my post.

Originally Posted by Humbert

You are in denial.

denial of what, pray tell?

my main point (in case you didn't notice) in that post was that this whole "russia hacked the u.s. election" is absolute nonsense.

that makes people come to conclusions like this:

“I think the Russians participated in helping this man get elected, and they helped destroy the candidacy of Hillary Clinton,” Lewis told host Chuck Todd. Lewis said he does not view the "president-elect as a legitimate president” and won't attend his inauguration.

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when in fact, this "hacking of the election by russia" is simply referring to:

1. some leaked dnc/podesta emails by wikileaks which any person with an average IQ can conclude does not equate to "hacking of the election" by russia or anyone.

2. the cia hasn't provided any proof (in open or classified briefings, apparently) that russia gave the emails to wikileaks. they've only provided proof that russia was looking at emails on the dnc server.

:teach:

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Yes, the first thing any dictator must do is take control of the press and discredit what's left where possible.

Do you really believe Trump will try to govern as a dictator,really?

Of course I do. He won't succeed at it, but like all good dictators he can't take criticism at all, and if he feels he has the power to do something about it he will.

Just another reason I take nothing you post seriously

You don't take anything seriously enough, because you don't understand.

I'd ask Buttplug to explain it to you, he's glued to Chump's twatter feed and can tell you about all the assaults Trump has launched against his critics. He's a thin skinned narcissistic nancy boy who will do his best to block access to the WH press room for anyone who dares to criticise him.

He's already threatened to try and rein in the First Amendment, but you probably didn't notice that because you're senile.

By rein in the first amendment you must be talking about holding the press accountable for spreading false news.

Well at least Donald is rounding up a few people for the inauguration.


https://twitter.com/nbcsnl/status/820494045365596162

Well at least Donald is rounding up a few people for the inauguration.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

By rein in the first amendment you must be talking about holding the press accountable for spreading false news.

Why must I? Because you are too dumb to read what's he's said in relation to the First Amendment?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by RPETER65

By rein in the first amendment you must be talking about holding the press accountable for spreading false news.

Why must I? Because you are too dumb to read what's he's said in relation to the First Amendment?

No because what I posted is basically what he said about the first amendment,you are just not bright enough to figure that out.

Originally Posted by Humbert

Michael Moore's latest takedown of the orange Jesus. Here’s why Congressman and civil rights legend John Lewis is right that Trump “is not a legitimate President”:

a bit too late, and he is a legitimate President, Moore is being silly over this. The popular vote has never been part of the system in a Presidential election.

He is right about Trump being a complete nutter, but that's what we need these days.

If he can't do the job right, we will invade the Trump Tower and burn him in his Pentahouse

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

He's already threatened to try and rein in the First Amendment

Link?

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

If he can't do the job right, we will invade the Trump Tower and burn him in his Pentahouse

Let the lynch mob rule...and thought the KKK was bad...

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Pentahouse

Nice place. All that gold. The Gold Codes he will have will fit in nicely.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by RPETER65

By rein in the first amendment you must be talking about holding the press accountable for spreading false news.

Why must I? Because you are too dumb to read what's he's said in relation to the First Amendment?

No because what I posted is basically what he said about the first amendment,you are just not bright enough to figure that out.

I don't give a fuck what you posted, I'm not talking about your shit am I?

Mother of God, learn to read you fucking moron.

Any links about Trump reining in the first amendment?

Originally Posted by Slick

Any links about Trump reining in the first amendment?

"President-elect Donald Trump vowed that reporters would be "happy" with his stewardship of the First Amendment under his presidency, despite past promises to make it easier to sue them.

"I think you’ll be happy, I think you’ll be happy,” Trump told New York Times reporters, editors and columnists gathered at the newspaper's Times Square headquarters on Tuesday.

On the campaign trail, Trump promised to "open up the libel laws," whose standards usually protect news organizations and their journalists, particularly when it comes to public figures. The United States has no federal libel laws.

"One of the things I'm going to do if I win, and I hope we do and we're certainly leading. I'm going to open up our libel laws so when they write purposely negative and horrible and false articles, we can sue them and win lots of money," Trump said in February. "We're going to open up those libel laws. So when The New York Times writes a hit piece which is a total disgrace or when The Washington Post, which is there for other reasons, writes a hit piece, we can sue them and win money instead of having no chance of winning because they're totally protected."

While it is unclear if he expanded on a possible change of opinion, Trump did say that someone told him such a legal shift could affect him personally.

"You know, you might be sued a lot more," Trump recalled of a conversation. "I said, 'You know, I hadn’t thought of that.'"

Trump to reporters: 'You'll be happy' with my views on the First Amendment - POLITICO

Originally Posted by Slick

Any links about Trump reining in the first amendment?

There are plenty. Learn how to use Google.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by RPETER65

By rein in the first amendment you must be talking about holding the press accountable for spreading false news.

Why must I? Because you are too dumb to read what's he's said in relation to the First Amendment?

No because what I posted is basically what he said about the first amendment,you are just not bright enough to figure that out.

I don't give a fuck what you posted, I'm not talking about your shit am I?

Mother of God, learn to read you fucking moron.

As I said,you are not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Beyond that your reasoning ability sucks. trump is calling out the media for publishing crap nothing less nothing more. The first amendment will be just fine, don't panic.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

There are plenty. Learn how to use Google.

I know, I just want to see what YOU GUYS are reading. Being all the 'fake news' shite being accused and thrown around nowadays from both sides.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

don't panic

No panic here.

Lèse majesté in Thailand, based on Thai Criminal Code section 112, making it illegal to defame, insult, or threaten the king, queen, heir-apparent, or regent, has been on the statute books since 1908. The punishment is three to fifteen years of imprisonment per count.[1] There is no legal definition, however, of what actions constitute a defamation, insult, or threat against the monarchy, and there is plenty of room for interpretation.

Former Supreme Court Justice Tanin Kraivixien interpreted the wording of the law as a blanket ban against criticism of royal development projects, the institution of royalty itself, the Chakri Dynasty or any previous Thai king.[2] There was a controversy whether criticism of members of Bhumibol's privy council also qualifies as lèse-majesté. The Supreme Court of Thailand decided in 2013 that the law also applies to any previous monarchs. Later that year, a man was found guilty of "preparing and attempting" to commit an act of lèse-majesté, even though the law states that the mere planning of such act is not an offence. In 2015, a man was sentenced for a "sarcastic" comment online about the King's dog,"