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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    ....but yeah you're fucked.
    Long time coming.
    Yet, been quite apparent for a few generations.

    Been fucked for some time.
    And not recognized.

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    Turtlehead got cornered, so now we have another ridiculous baldy orange cunto lie.

    Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said on Thursday he was mistaken in claiming that the Obama administration had failed to leave a pandemic playbook for the Trump White House.

    “I was wrong,” McConnell said in an evening interview with Fox News’ Bret Baier. “They did leave behind a plan. So, I clearly made a mistake in that regard.”

    McConnell had claimed during a Monday campaign event for President Donald Trump that the current White House had not been briefed by the previous administration on preparing for a pandemic at the scale of the novel coronavirus. He also slammed former President Barack Obama for criticizing Trump’s coronavirus response (Obama had privately told former aides that it was an “absolute chaotic disaster”), saying Obama “should have kept his mouth shut.”

    “We want to be early, ready for the next one, because clearly the Obama administration did not leave to this administration any kind of game plan for something like this,” McConnell said on Monday during a virtual interview with Lara Trump, the president’s daughter-in-law and campaign adviser.

    But POLITICO
    had reported in March the existence of a document, written by Obama officials that laid out how the incoming Trump administration should respond if faced with a pandemic. The 69-page document contained hundreds of recommendations for dealing with many of the problems plaguing the nation’s coronavirus response — from shortages of personal protective equipment to the need for unified public guidance on the crisis.


    Speaking to reporters on Thursday afternoon, White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany said that the “Obama-Biden plan that has been referenced was insufficient,“ and said the Trump administration had prepared its own pandemic report and exercises last year.

    “In other words, the Obama-Biden paper packet was superseded by a President Trump-style pandemic preparedness response plan,“ McEnany said.

    “Which was much better,“ Trump followed up. “We were given very little when we came into this administration.“
    And of course we know they did nothing of the kind.

    McConnell says he was wrong on Obama pandemic playbook - POLITICO

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    And scientists within their fields are confounded by the disconnected politics [professional and layman] at play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    And scientists within their fields are confounded by the disconnected politics [professional and layman] at play.
    it's almost like a dylan lyric....if dylan had a stroke.

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    Dylan was the name of a rabbit on a kid's tv programme of the seventies in the UK called 'The Magic Roundabout'.

    He talked like he was permanently stoned, though of course as kids we just thought it was a generalised 'flower power' way of talking and that he was just a kind of dozy layabout.

    Dylan was very, very much like jeff.

    President Donald Trump-dylan11024x768-jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    And scientists within their fields are confounded by the disconnected politics [professional and layman] at play.
    Except mycologists.

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    Trump is special, but he's not particularly original. Here's some perspective:


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Speaking to reporters on Thursday afternoon, White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany said that the “Obama-Biden plan that has been referenced was insufficient,“ and said the Trump administration had prepared its own pandemic report and exercises last year.
    Didn't she say she wasn't going to lie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbound View Post
    This may very well be the dumbest comment ever made.
    and then along comes the fat belgian boiler room fluffer to prove you wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    you guys should stop testing, get exposed like everyone else, because this is the only way out

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    This is fake but the thing about it is you actually have to check to make sure in the first place because, well, because Trump.

    The other thing about it is that fact checking is a one way street with Trump / Trumptards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    why are you just making of nonsense?

    in the map below, the blue states were won by biden in the primary contests:
    It's not like he was convincing early on with more than one opponent, was it ?

    And not 'nonsense' Ray. I told you already, that I don't know shit.

    It's 'gut feeling'. Don't you have one ?
    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    couldn't "lure voters out to turn up for biden", eh?
    How many turned up ?
    You tell me

    In your presidential elections 40% + can't be bothered to show up

    Could it be that the candidates aren't liked much ?
    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    or maybe you think that sanders, warren, bloomberg, buttigieg and klobuchar all dropped out and endorsed biden because....no...never mind....i'm not even going to try and discern what it is you're trying to say.
    I'm sure they are all thrilled with endorsing him, and only ran , so it wouldn't look like a coronation at the convent. Cunning
    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    democrats already control the house, and the odds of the dems winning the senate and not the white house are extremely limited....bordering on infinitesimal.
    assuming you have a point.....what is it?
    They'll have to win the House again, and not having Biden on the ballot in the senate elections must be a plus

    Many republican senators up for election ?
    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    and for what it's worth, not sure why you keep using "you"....i'm not on the ballot and don't work for the DNC.
    You had me fooled there

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    I don't know shit.
    President Donald Trump-giphy-gif

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    In contrast to my post above this however is a real tweet and a burn of a reply:


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    No? Hmmm, let me try that again...


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    ^ Touche' Joe Kennedy III

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    Trump downplays the need for coronavirus vaccine ...It will go away at some point



    Key Points

    • President Trump said the U.S. will overcome the coronavirus crisis with or without an effective vaccine, saying that the disease will ďgo away at some pointĒ either way.
    • ďIf we donít, weíre going to be like so many other cases where you had a problem come in, itíll go away at some point, itíll go away,Ē Trump said.
    • Trumpís remarks downplaying the need for a vaccine came at an event unveiling his administrationís beefed-up efforts to fast-track the development and distribution of a vaccine for Covid-19.


    Coronavirus vaccine: Trump downplays need, says disease will '''go away'''

    Trump, just step back, let the grown-ups speak and FFS
    ďSomeone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time agoĒ

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    . . . and people have a meltdown over a Biden gaffe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    Trump is special, but he's not particularly original. Here's some perspective:

    Dubya was far from eloquent, and had his fair share brain farts, but he had no problem laughing at himself.
    Trump is a thin skinned, petty little man, who continually talks out of his ass.

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    So proud of my fellow Americans.


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    Does Donald Trump Want to Be Re-Elected?

    The presidentís inattention to the coronavirus doesnít suggest someone desperate to win in November.

    By Jonathan Bernstein
    May 15, 2020, 6:33 PM GMT+7
    https://www.bloomberg.com/asia



    Nowhere man. Photographer: Doug Mills/Pool/Getty

    Itís becoming more and more obvious that President Donald Trump has simply stopped dealing with the coronavirus pandemic, and has no particular plan for confronting its economic fallout, either. In both cases, heís pretty much substituted wishful thinking for action. The Atlanticís David Graham had a good item about this disengagement earlier in the week, followed by one from Ezra Klein arguing that ďthe White House does not have a plan, it does not have a framework, it does not have a philosophy, and it does not have a goal.Ē

    What surprised me was political scientist Lee Drutmanís conclusion, based on Kleinís article, that ďthe debate over what to do has polarized with depressing haste, because Ďwinningí in Washington is not defeating the virus, but winning the next election.Ē I argued a bit with Drutman on Twitter about this, but itís worth a longer discussion. My basic sense is that Trump isnít nearly concerned enough with winning re-election, and that the current catastrophe is in part a consequence of that.

    Thereís no way to know whatís really in the presidentís mind. But we can compare his actions with what a president determined to be re-elected would probably do. A lot of Trumpís critics have claimed that heís deliberately risking American lives by boosting the economy to improve his chances in November. And itís true that he seems concerned mainly with re-opening businesses these days. But there are at least two reasons to doubt that this preference is due to the election. For one, public-health experts and economists broadly agree that opening too soon will be a disaster. For another, even if there is a trade-off, thereís no particular reason to think that restoring jobs at the cost of more illness and death will be a good electoral deal for Trump.

    At any rate, the evidence that Trump has an economic plan is just as weak as the evidence that heís engaged in dealing with the coronavirus.
    What I think is more likely is that Trump simply isnít finding this aspect of the presidency very much fun. You might remember when President George H.W. Bush declared that he didnít like broccoli: ďAnd I havenít liked it since I was a little kid and my mother made me eat it. And Iím president of the United States, and Iím not going to eat any more broccoli!Ē Trump acts this way about doing most of the mundane jobs of the presidency. Thus his newly invented scandal, ďObamagate.Ē

    As the New Yorkerís Susan Glasser points out: ďFor Trump, spending the week attacking Obama, no matter what the subject, is the political equivalent of retreating to his bedroom and hiding under the blanket. Itís his safe space, his comfort zone.Ē Except itís not so much a political equivalent as it is a retreat from politics altogether, along with the duties and responsibilities of his office.

    A politician who desperately wanted re-election wouldíve been hard at work, from the moment he or she was alerted to the danger, attempting to contain the pandemic and limit the economic damage, and would persevere no matter what the setbacks, never wavering in an effort to produce the policy results that might lead to a big win in November. Such presidents might sacrifice the long term for the short term, as Lyndon Johnson did in goosing the economy in 1964, or Richard Nixon did in 1972. But they would never just give up when things went wrong.

    Thatís not this president. Thatís not Donald Trump.
    Majestically enthroned amid the vulgar herd

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    World looks on in horror as Trump flails over pandemic despite claims US leads way

    A few snippets from a good article.

    As the death toll rises, Trump’s claims to global leadership have became more far-fetched. He told Republicans last week that he had had a round of phone calls with Angela Merkel, Shinzo Abe and other unnamed world leaders and insisted “so many of them, almost all of them, I would say all of them” believe the US is leading the way.

    None of the leaders he mentioned has said anything to suggest that was true.
    “Post-truth communication techniques used by rightwing populism movements simply do not work to beat Covid-19,”
    Esmir Milavić, an editor at Bosnia’s N1 TV channel, told viewers this week: “The White House is in utter dysfunction and doesn’t speak with one voice.”

    Milavić said: “The vice-president is wearing a mask, while the president doesn’t; some staffers wear them, some don’t. Everybody acts as they please. As time passes, White House begins to look more and more like the Balkans.”
    After Trump’s disinfectant comments, Beppe Severgnini, a columnist for Italy’s Corriere della Sera, said in a TV interview: “Trying to get into Donald Trump’s head is more difficult than finding a vaccine for coronavirus. First he decided on a lockdown and then he encouraged protests against the lockdown that he promoted. It’s like a Mel Brooks film.”
    In several countries, the local health authorities have felt obliged to put out statements to counter “health advice” coming from the White House,
    The Nigerian government put out a warning that there is no “hard evidence that chloroquine is effective in prevention or management of coronavirus infection” after three people were hospitalised from overdosing on the drug in Lagos.
    You know things are bad when the NIGERIANS are warning against your advice.

    World looks on in horror as Trump flails over pandemic despite claims US leads way | US news | The Guardian
    Worth a read.
    Last edited by Cujo; 16-05-2020 at 10:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    There’s no way to know what’s really in the president’s mind
    hamberders and golf

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    he president’s inattention to the coronavirus doesn’t suggest someone desperate to win in November.
    In the world of "I do not care what the facts are" the "coronavirus" is not about coronavirus. It's about much more...(that has nothing to do with the coronavirus)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    In the world of "I do not care what the facts are" the "coronavirus" is not about coronavirus. It's about much more...(that has nothing to do with the coronavirus)
    Share with us what it's all really about



    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    You know things are bad when the NIGERIANS are warning against your advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Didn't she say she wasn't going to lie?
    A bit rhetorically moot, as that's what they do.
    Their specialty.

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