Thread: President Donald Trump

Originally Posted by Cujo

I wonder if they'll pay.


Trump says US may seek damages from China over virus

as predicted, and might possibly go to full scale war over this

was the virus manufactured on the top of things? well, if it was, the first thing in the design would be to "hide" your design track to make it look natural

if that's the case, then China was definitely looking for a world reaction and possibly a takeover of the world

was is a Trump commercial war that triggered China? possibly, and China was hurting more than it lead us to believe

Originally Posted by raycarey

anyway.....

back to trump....

i read recently that despite the risk to their health and well being, he's making the west point graduates come back to campus so he can have a photo op....which only goes to prove that trump only cares about trump.


and btw, if the economy stays the in the shitter through the summer and he finally realizes he has no chance of re-election, i would wager there is a considerable chance that he tries to figuratively burn every government institution to the ground to prevent the biden administration from succeeding.

They had their foot on his throat.

.......Don’t let him squirm out of it. ( foot in mouth )....... Press down harder.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

as predicted, and might possibly go to full scale war over this

was the virus manufactured on the top of things? well, if it was, the first thing in the design would be to "hide" your design track to make it look natural

if that's the case, then China was definitely looking for a world reaction and possibly a takeover of the world

was is a Trump commercial war that triggered China? possibly, and China was hurting more than it lead us to believe

There are two parts to that, being created in a lab and deliberately released as a weapon, or even accidentally released and then acted upon after recognising its potential.

Anything is possible and we'll never know the answer to both parts, though it doesn't feel right to weaponise a virus that does most damage to the elderly and infirm. Switch what's needed so that it sweeps through populations killing young, strong, healthy people, and we might have been at war last month.

Originally Posted by jabir

There are two parts to that, being created in a lab and deliberately released as a weapon, or even accidentally released and then acted upon after recognising its potential.

Anything is possible and we'll never know the answer to both parts, though it doesn't feel right to weaponise a virus that does most damage to the elderly and infirm. Switch what's needed so that it sweeps through populations killing young, strong, healthy people, and we might have been at war last month.

in any battlefield, it's better to wound than kill, it weakens your opponents and keep them busy

the old and obese are an easy target for a manufactured virus,

MARCH: “I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it… Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”



APRIL: “Supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked but you’re going to test it. Supposing you brought the light inside of the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you’re going to test that too. Sounds interesting. And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. And is there a way we can do something, by an injection inside or almost a cleaning? It would be interesting to check that. That you’re gonna have to use medical doctors with.”

Originally Posted by DragonTurd

in any battlefield, it's better to wound than kill, it weakens your opponents and keep them busy

Tell us more, General Schwarzkopf.

Originally Posted by DragonTurd

as predicted, and might possibly go to full scale war over this

was the virus manufactured on the top of things? well, if it was, the first thing in the design would be to "hide" your design track to make it look natural

if that's the case, then China was definitely looking for a world reaction and possibly a takeover of the world

was is a Trump commercial war that triggered China? possibly, and China was hurting more than it lead us to believe

Alex Jones? Is that you?

Jury still out folks which is madder. The loons who support trump, or the retarded fools who think Clunton would have been any better. Then there is raist Bidens flag wavers. Worst of all, the Bernie fools who have been sold down the right, yet again....

Trump... he's an arsehole. But then they all are. Has the trust fund philander launched a "Countdown to President Biden" thread yet?

Originally Posted by pseudolus

retarded fools who think Clunton would have been any better

Yep, Clunton would have really screwed things up.

Originally Posted by panama hat

Nah, the jury came back...

I’ll be willing to bet they never even left the courtroom, before they reached their verdict.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Jury still out folks which is madder. The loons who support trump, or the retarded fools who think Clunton would have been any better. Then there is raist Bidens flag wavers. Worst of all, the Bernie fools who have been sold down the right, yet again....

Trump... he's an arsehole. But then they all are.

It's very telling that people are forced into hypothetical and ultimately meaningless and irrelevant comparisons to judge Trump instead of just judging him on his own actions.

It's just turd-polishing and excuse making. His legacy is going to be on how low the bar was set for him and still managing to fuck it up.

^
What he said.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

It's very telling that people are forced into hypothetical and ultimately meaningless and irrelevant comparisons to judge Trump instead of just judging him on his own actions.

It's just turd-polishing and excuse making. His legacy is going to be on how low the bar was set for him and still managing to fuck it up.

I think there's little doubt that baldy orange cunto will be remembered as the worst president in US history.

He's managed to fuck up pretty well everything he's touched.

Bush Jr. must be delighted.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I think there's little doubt that baldy orange cunto will be remembered as the worst president in US history.

He's managed to fuck up pretty well everything he's touched.

Bush Jr. must be delighted.

...and just think of the size of current presidential fuck-ups necessary for Bush2 to look good...amazing the Republicans are still a national party...

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Bush Jr. must be delighted.

Longing for his press appearances once a month with the questions of the guy (what was his name?) who no journos knew but never gave a chance to the 1st Lady of press Helen Thomas...
50 Years of Tough Questions and ‘Thank You, Mr. President’ - The New York Times

Originally Posted by tomcat

...and just think of the size of current presidential fuck-ups necessary for Bush2 to look good...amazing the Republicans are still a national party...

Yes, you would think a couple of pointless wars and an economic meltdown would be hard to beat, but this bald orange wanker said "Hold my beer...."

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I think there's little doubt that baldy orange cunto will be remembered as the worst president in US history.

He's managed to fuck up pretty well everything he's touched.

Bush Jr. must be delighted.

Trump didn't start and lose 2 wars in a row, GW Bush still hold that sad record

he is going to come across as a much better POTUS than Obama, the lazy black President

the guy is gold, all the shit you throw at him, he will spit it back to you

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Trump didn't start and lose 2 wars in a row, GW Bush still hold that sad record

he is going to come across as a much better POTUS than Obama, the lazy black President

the guy is gold, all the shit you throw at him, he will spit it back to you

The lazy black President.

Where were we ? ........ Oh , that’s right KKK starched white hood.

Originally Posted by peaches

The lazy black President.

Lazy ? Don't know, but out-lazied in a tremendous way by his successor

Black or half black, and his successor is orange

Originally Posted by peaches

KKK

Are you serious ?

Originally Posted by helge

Lazy ? Don't know, but out-lazied in a tremendous way by his successor

Black or half black, and his successor is orange


Are you serious ?

Yes.......Imperial Wizard

Three months in -- after a million infections, nearly 60,000 US deaths and a potential economic depression -- it's still unclear whether President Donald Trump grasps the gravity of the coronavirus crisis.The man who said he knew more about ISIS than the generals and claimed to have stunned dumfounded aides with his scientific acuity prides himself on a mystical instinct to make right calls.

Yet Trump's leadership in the worst domestic crisis since World War II has consistently featured wrong, ill-informed and dangerous decisions, omissions and politically fueled pivots.

"Many very good experts, very good people too, said this would never affect the United States," Trump told CNN's Jim Acosta on Tuesday. "The experts got it wrong. A lot of people got it wrong and a lot of people didn't know it would be this serious."

Such comments are typical of Trump's consistent habit of blaming others for his own poor judgments. For the record, senior Centers for Disease Control and Prevention official Nancy Messonnier warned on February 27 that it was inevitable the disease would reach the US and could be "bad."

The President's deflections on Tuesday are typical of his wider political method of evading responsibility by bending the truth and of creating distractions. They play into what is apparently his most pressing concern -- massaging his own reputation. Such tactics helped him ride out the Russia scandal and impeachment.

But in the depths of the current disorientating times, the deeper liabilities of the President's political approach are being exposed. A hostility to details, a resistance to accepting the advice of experts and for learning the messy intricacies of a crisis that interrupted his own narrative in election year. Bolstering such an impression, the Washington Post reported for instance that multiple references to the threat from the novel coronavirus were embedded into Trump's classified briefings. Either he didn't read them or he chose to ignore them.

Trump's initial failure was to downplay the seriousness of the crisis. But his management of the situation ever since then has raised questions about the extent to which the President has appreciated the multi-front challenge facing the United States and the world.

Humanity is facing three crises at the very least -- medical, economic and social -- that will cause financial and geopolitical reverberations for years. Yet Trump says he sees "light at the end of the tunnel" and acts as if America is nearly home free.

Doubts about the seriousness of the administration's response were also revealed in a more trivial, yet still telling, episode on Tuesday when Vice President Mike Pence flouted CDC guidance and chose not to wear a facemask during a visit to the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota. Pence explained that he is frequently tested for Covid-19 so was unlikely to be an asymptomatic carrier of the disease.

But he missed a chance to set an example to the rest of the country.

Trump's comments contradict his own experts

Trump's comments on injecting disinfectant last week were ridiculed. But they were a sign of something more than the usual Trumpian storm. They were remarks of a President who often appears unprepared, riffs on intricate issues and hasn't done the homework to master details of a complicated emergency.

Similarly, Trump urged governors on Monday to seriously consider reopening schools, CNN reported. But he didn't appear to have considered implications of millions of kids gathering, spreading the virus and infecting older, more vulnerable family members in a manner that could fuel the pandemic. His comment was consistent with an apparent conclusion that the worst of the pandemic has passed and that the virus, which scientists say is lying in wait for reopening, is simply gone.

Even if the looming clutch of state openings do not cause a second spike in the virus, public health experts fear that in the absence of a vaccine it will return with a vengeance later in the year. Not Trump.
"I think what happens is it's going to go away. This is going to go away. And whether it comes back in a modified form in the fall, we'll be able to handle it," he said in remarks that may again amount to underestimating a potential threat.

One of Trump's top medical experts, Dr. Anthony Fauci, who has been far less enthusiastic than Trump about the lackluster US testing effort appears far less optimistic.
"If by that time we have put into place all of the countermeasures that you need to address this, we should do reasonably well. If we don't do that successfully, we could be in for a bad fall and a bad winter," Fauci said on Tuesday during an Economic Club of Washington webinar.

The President is again pushing aggressively for states to get back to business quickly -- despite balking at Georgia's aggressive plan last week.

"Many States moving to SAFELY & QUICKLY reopen!" Trump tweeted on Tuesday, showing little appreciation of the huge gamble with health and lives governors are taking without the safety net of a blanket testing program Trump has declined to provide.

The terrible choice facing political leaders


A wrenching national conversation is needed, ideally led by the President, about the relative impact of the pandemic and the job destroying lockdowns ordered to stop its spread. Political leaders must consider what level of infection and ultimately death is acceptable in a modern society in order to protect basic levels of economic viability. These are crushingly difficult issues that no official expected to face when they ran for office.

But there is no sign that Trump is about to engage on that issue with the public whose confidence will be needed to make any economic rebound sustainable. Every world and local leader is facing these agonizing choices. But given US power, influence and historic leadership of the Western world, a special burden of responsibility is often seen to rest on the shoulders of the man in the Oval Office.

Any normal President who made a prediction that a miracle would sweep a pandemic away, only to see it infect a million Americans over a couple of months, would be politically shattered. President George W. Bush's failures over Hurricane Katrina look trivial by comparison. Yet Trump is protected in his bubble of unknowingness by a conservative media machine that attacks anyone who contradicts his comments.

Misleading over tests

The administration's questionable commitment to addressing the nuts and bolts of the emergency have been evident in its repeated promises and failures to scale up the kind of massive testing effort that could help pry open the economy without the risk of a major resurgence.

Trump appears to have convinced himself that the lack of tests that his own experts and governors say are needed to trace and isolate new infections to stop a resurgence are mere distractions.

"There are big believers in testing, and then there are some governors that don't feel as strongly about it at all," Trump, said Monday.

Such comments make it seem unlikely the President has read the multiple think tank studies or expert opinions that millions of tests per day are needed to beat the pandemic or is interested in guidance that contradicts his pre-cooked view of the pandemic being close to its end.

Trump prefers to boast about the true fact that the US has tested more people than any other nation, which he did again early Wednesday morning.

"The only reason the U.S. has reported one million cases of CoronaVirus is that our Testing is sooo much better than any other country in the World. Other countries are way behind us in Testing, and therefore show far fewer cases!," Trump tweeted.

But his sincerity is undermined by the reality that other smaller countries have tested far more people per capita. The US has tested 16.4 tests per 1,000 people, according to the a new Organization of Economic Cooperation and Development report, below the OECD member average of 23.1 tests per 1,000 people and trails Spain and Italy. America does, however, lead the UK and France.

The President's forecasts for the economy also don't seem to appreciate the depth of the slide. His predictions of "spectacular" growth in the next few quarters and an economy that will take off like a "rocket" sit uneasily with warnings by a top adviser, Kevin Hassett, that the country could be heading for Great Depression levels of unemployment.

There is also debate about the President's observance of another aspect of his role as head of state -- his willingness to console the country at a time of mourning. Trump usually mentions those who died and says they will not be forgotten during his scripted remarks at the start of press conferences. But he most often talks about the dead in terms of what he says are lower than projected final death toll models after the pandemic. And he has taken to arguing that his efforts -- which were belated -- might have saved a million lives.

There are no guarantees another president of either party would have done a better job in this time of testing than the unconventional Trump.

But it's almost certain that he or she would have made a far greater show of mastering the details and would -- even for their own political protection if nothing else -- have done far more to prepare the country for the trial ahead.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/29/polit...nce/index.html

Not exactly a revelation....


Donald Trump has 'dangerous mental illness', say psychiatry experts at Yale conference.

Donald Trump has 'dangerous mental illness', say psychiatry experts at Yale conference | The Independent

Originally Posted by beachbound

Not exactly a revelation....


Donald Trump has 'dangerous mental illness', say psychiatry experts at Yale conference.

Donald Trump has 'dangerous mental illness', say psychiatry experts at Yale conference | The Independent

I don't think it would be dangerous if he wasn't President and you saw him in the street. You'd just think he was another retard that needs Social Services help to do basic tasks.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I don't think it would be dangerous if he wasn't President

I hear he was a real asshole as a builder.

He really shouldn't have been allowed to breed

Originally Posted by beachbound

Not exactly a revelation....


Donald Trump has 'dangerous mental illness', say psychiatry experts at Yale conference.

Donald Trump has 'dangerous mental illness', say psychiatry experts at Yale conference | The Independent

below is not a defense of trump but relates to anyone that receives an "armchair diagnosis"


"APA Calls for End to 'Armchair' PsychiatryWASHINGTON, D.C. — Today, the American Psychiatric Association (APA) reiterates its continued and unwavering commitment to the ethical principle known as "The Goldwater Rule." We at the APA call for an end to psychiatrists providing professional opinions in the media about public figures whom they have not examined, whether it be on cable news appearances, books, or in social media. Armchair psychiatry or the use of psychiatry as a political tool is the misuse of psychiatry and is unacceptable and unethical.


The ethical principle, in place since 1973, guides physician members of the APA to refrain from publicly issuing professional medical opinions about individuals that they have not personally evaluated in a professional setting or context. Doing otherwise undermines the credibility and integrity of the profession and the physician-patient relationship. Although APA's ethical guidelines can only be enforced against APA members, we urge all psychiatrists, regardless of membership, to abide by this guidance in respect of our patients and our profession.


A proper psychiatric evaluation requires more than a review of television appearances, tweets, and public comments. Psychiatrists are medical doctors; evaluating mental illness is no less thorough than diagnosing diabetes or heart disease. The standards in our profession require review of medical and psychiatric history and records and a complete examination of mental status. Often collateral information from family members or individuals who know the person well is included, with permission from the patient.


"The Goldwater Rule embodies these concepts and makes it unethical for a psychiatrist to render a professional opinion to the media about a public figure unless the psychiatrist has examined the person and has proper authorization to provide the statement," said APA CEO and Medical Director Saul Levin, M.D., M.P.A. "APA stands behind this rule."


The President is about to undergo his annual physical examination, and APA has confidence that his physician will follow the standard of care in examining all systems, which includes an age-appropriate medical and mental health evaluation. If mental health concerns are raised, the standard of care would result in the examining physician seeking consultation from an experienced psychiatrist who would approach the consultation with objectivity and within the physician-patient confidential relationship.


APA is ready to make recommendations from among our 37,000 psychiatrist members, physicians who have the knowledge, training, expertise, discretion, and objectivity to perform a thorough and apolitical evaluation. Using psychiatry for political or self-aggrandizing purposes is stigmatizing for our patients and negatively impacts our profession.


For further information on the Goldwater Rule, go here.


American Psychiatric Association


The American Psychiatric Association, founded in 1844, is the oldest medical association in the country. The APA is also the largest psychiatric association in the world with more than 37,000 physician members specializing in the diagnosis, treatment, prevention and research of mental illnesses. APA’s vision is to ensure access to quality psychiatric diagnosis and treatment.

APA Calls for End to 'Armchair' Psychiatry