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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    My wife works at a policy centre that is connected with Covid-19 as an adjunct, so we watch the NZ PM's daily broadcasts, as she is working from home.

    The massive difference between how Ardern and her Minister of Health address the nation and reporters is simply immense to how Trump does his daily self-congratulatory vomit is astounding
    It's particularly odd and dangerous.
    It's all [and only] about him.
    Creating everything political.
    Denial and delusion are his favourite pastimes.


    .....all the while, Rome is burning big time.

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    Trump turns against WHO to mask his own stark failings on Covid-19 crisis

    Trump suspends WHO funding as global deaths pass 125,000

    Dishonest decision to pull funding from World Health Organisation will endanger public health.
    Donald Trump’s declared suspension of funding of the World Health Organisation in the midst of a pandemic is confirmation – if any were needed – that he is in search of scapegoats for his administration’s much delayed and chaotic response to the crisis.


    The US is the WHO’s biggest donor, with funding over $400m a year in both assessed contributions (membership fees) and donations – though it is actually $200m in arrears.


    Theoretically the White House cannot block funding of international institutions mandated by Congress. But the administration has found ways around such constitutional hurdles on other issues – by simply failing to disburse funds or apply sanctions, for example.


    The funding could be formally rescinded, but that would require Senate approval, or “reprogrammed” by being diverted to another purpose that the White House could argue is consistent with the will of Congress.


    “Whatever form it takes, this is a deeply shortsighted and dangerous decision - at any time, let alone during a ... pandemic,” said Alexandra Phelan, assistant professor at the Center for Global Health Science and Security at Georgetown University.


    “It’s a bizarre decision that would be profoundly detrimental to global public health,” said Gavin Yamey, the director of Duke University’s center for policy impact in global health. “He’s trying to distract from his own errors that have led to the worst government response to Covid-19 on Earth.”


    Public health officials generally agree that the WHO’s response to the pandemic has not been perfect, but much improved on the organisation’s lambasted performance in the face of the Ebola outbreak in 2014, and immeasurably better than how the US has handled Covid-19.


    The WHO first raised the alert over the Wuhan outbreak on 5 January, and beginning on 7 January it was briefing public health officials from the US and other national governments on the outbreak in regular teleconference calls. On 9 January the WHO distributed guidance to member states for their own risk assessment and planning.


    Trump and his supporters have focused on a 14 January WHO tweet reporting the findings of preliminary Chinese studies suggesting “no clear evidence” of human-to-human transmission.


    While the WHO was obliged to report on the latest findings of a member state at the source of the outbreak, its officials told their counterparts in technical briefings on 10 and 11 January, and briefed the press on 14 January, that human-to-human transmission was still a strong possibility given the experience of past coronavirus epidemics and urged suitable precautions.


    Yamey said it was ridiculous to point to a single tweet early in the pandemic as the fixed position of the WHO. “The whole point of science is that we have initial hypotheses and initial ideas, and we update those ideas as more and more data emerges,” he said.


    On 23 January the WHO updated its account of the coronavirus threat, confirming human-to-human transmission and warning that the global risk was high. One week later it formally declared a global emergency.


    Announcing the cut in funding on Tuesday, Trump accused the WHO of failing to send its experts to the source of the outbreak to gather samples. That failure decisively set back the effect to contain the pandemic, he claimed.


    In fact Beijing blocked a WHO delegation from visiting Wuhan in the first weeks of the outbreak. The WHO director general, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, had to fly to Beijing to meet Xi Jinping on 29 January to negotiate entry and information sharing. A WHO team was allowed to visit Wuhan on 22 February. Tedros has been criticised for his flattery of Xi and the Chinese response, in the face of Beijing’s obstructionism and cover-up attempts. His defenders said that such diplomacy was the price for entry.


    Trump did more than his own fair share of Xi flattery. On 24 January, the president tweeted “China has been working very hard to contain the coronavirus … The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency.”


    The claim that the delay in the WHO acquiring samples crippled the international response is also false. Chinese scientists publicly released the genetic sequence of Covid-19 on 11 January.


    By early February the WHO was in a position to distribute a Covid-19 test worldwide, but the US government opted not to have it fast-tracked through approval. The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) instead produced its own test at about the same time, but it was flawed and had to be recalled. US testing would be set back more than six weeks compared to the rest of the world.


    While virtually no testing was under way in the US throughout February, Trump assumed the consequently low number of confirmed US cases meant that his country had somehow escaped. “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA,” he boasted on 24 February, nearly a month after the WHO declaration of emergency. “We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health [Organisation] have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”


    Trump’s turn against the WHO only gathered pace over the past week, as more and more reports emerged of the administration’s own complacent and dysfunctional response.


    The impact of a block on US funds is likely to mitigated by other countries, who have almost unanimously expressed confidence in the WHO, stepping up their own financial backing. The UK, for example, has announced £200m in new funding for international efforts to contain and combat the pandemic, of which £65m is earmarked for the WHO.


    How well Trump’s scapegoating of the WHO will play in the US election is impossible to predict, but on the world stage it will undoubtedly be seen as yet another step in an accelerating US abdication of leadership on the world stage.

    Trump turns against WHO to mask his own stark failings on Covid-19 crisis | US news | The Guardian

    IT SEEMS HE REALLY MEANT IT WHEN HE SAID HE TAKES NO RESPONSIBILITY. For anything EVER!

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    God almighty what a monumental prick.

    The Washington Post reports that Donald Trump’s name will be added to to $1,200 relief checks being sent to 70 million Americans – and that this “unprecedented” decision will “slow their delivery by several days.”

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    that press conf with the video clip was legend

    the face of the journalists, they must have been in total shock, or maybe not

    loved the following questioning, that was epic TV reality, awesome shit, Trump surpassed his best performance to date

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post

    btw, no need to ask.....of course his daughter and son-in-law are members of the advisory group.
    brilliant

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    baldy orange cunto just forgets what he says as soon as it leaves his empty head. The PACs shouldn't have too much trouble picking him to pieces.


    The more immediate news from the briefing was Trump’s announcement that they would withhold funding from the World Health Organization until a review of the organization is completed.

    He blamed the WHO for being too slow to respond to the coronavirus and for being too willing to accept China’s word about how it had spread in Wuhan. In a now infamous Jan. 14 tweet, the WHO wrote, “Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China.”

    Obviously, that was false.
    Trump said that the WHO “willingly took China’s assurances at face value … and they defended the actions of the Chinese government, even praising China for its so-called ‘transparency.’ I don’t think so.”

    He added, “The WHO’s reliance on China’s disclosures likely caused a twentyfold increase in cases worldwide and it may be much more than that.”


    But
    the president’s criticism of the WHO quickly generated questions of why he, too, praised China for its transparency, including a Jan. 24 tweet in which he wrote, “China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!”

    At the briefing, Bloomberg’s Jordan Fabian and later CNN’s Kaitlan Collins and later queried the president about this, but Trump didn’t directly address why he once gave credit to Beijing.

    https://deadline.com/2020/04/coronavirus-donald-trump-cnn-msnbc-1202908596/

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    Page not found | The Guardian

    A really good read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Page not found | The Guardian

    A really good read.
    A Donald Trump brain scan ?


    Bastard you

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    don't seem to be able post the link for some reason.

    Three months after the coronavirus arrived in the US, and more than 23,000 deaths later, the president thinks he has figured out what ails us


    Donald Trump has identified the enemy. Three months after the coronavirus arrived in the United States, and more than 23,000 deaths later, our president has put his finger on what ails us.

    It is not, as he may have said many times, invisible. It is not even a very brilliant virus that has outsmarted the world’s antibiotics. It is, in fact, the media.

    I warned of Trump’s attack on science. But I never predicted the horror that lay ahead | Ariel Dorfman
    Yes, you know who you are, you viral agents of destruction. Because of you, our valiant commander-in-chief was forced to spend the bulk of his so-called media briefing on Easter Monday taking the fight against the pandemic to where it really needs to be waged: with reporters.

    Hospitals may be at breaking point, and the economy may be in a depression. But our brave American hero devoted precious White House resources to the most urgent task of all: rebutting a New York Times investigation into how he frittered away all those months since China lost control of the virus in Hubei.

    Donning his own N95 mask of truth, our nation’s very stable genius commanded the lights be dimmed inside the White House briefing room and for the video to roll.

    How he demonstrated his courage by banning travel from China at the end of January, even though 40,000 still managed to enter the country!

    How he skipped over the entire month of February to jump to all the many big numbers and other things he said in March!

    Abandon hope, all ye who enter the briefing room!
    Except for Paula Reid of CBS who pointed out – frankly a little too often – that Trump didn’t use the time after his China “travel ban” to do, well, anything.

    “You’re so disgraceful,” Trump shot back with the kind of rapier-like rejoinder that makes him a modern-day Cyrano.

    When Reid pressed on with her pesky questions about what he was doing for the entire month of February, Trump promised to give her “the list”.

    “Look, look, you know you’re a fake,” he said with a flourish. “The people are wise to you. That’s why you have a lower approval rating.”


    Allow us, Mr President, to save you the time of coming up with your list of all the many bold and – dare we say it – quite brilliant things you said and did in February, as the virus was spreading across America.

    For the first half of the month, you said the warm weather would cause the virus to go away. For the second half, you said it was very much under control. By the end of the month, you said the numbers of cases “within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero”. Oh yes, and you predicted that “one day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear”.

    And so, like a miracle, our historic leader – he won’t call himself historic, but many people tell him he is – has made the month of February vanish from our collective memory. Because, quite frankly, what has February ever done for America? It doesn’t even have 30 days.

    Monday was a day for kicking some rebuttal. The briefing began with Dr Anthony Fauci, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases director responsible for protecting millions of American souls, expressing regret for his choice of words in a TV interview on Sunday.

    Fauci may be the only man standing between us and a catastrophically large death toll. But his main job right now is to protect one man’s ego – or else his words won’t penetrate that man’s exceptionally thick cranium.

    What on earth did Fauci say to hurt our president’s feelings so much? Just the blindingly obvious: that an earlier shutdown would have saved lives. “I mean, obviously, if we had, right from the very beginning, shut everything down, it may have been a little bit different,” he explained to CNN’s Jake Tapper. “But there was a lot of pushback about shutting things down back then.”

    That was so Sunday. By Monday, America’s greatest living immunologist said that was a poor choice of words, and he bristled when reporters suggested he wasn’t rolling back his words voluntarily. “Everything I do is voluntary,” he snapped. “Please. Don’t even imply that.”

    While Fauci was visibly steamed, Trump was visibly swaggering.
    His shoulders shimmied at the mere mention of his “travel ban”. His spirits soared at his staff-made video showing Democratic governors thanking him for his support.

    The resurrection of Trump’s ego was an Easter miracle only matched by some guy in the Bible whose ratings were a lot worse

    Never mind the recovery of Boris Johnson. The resurrection of Trump’s ego was an Easter miracle only matched by some guy in the Bible whose ratings were a lot worse.

    “We could give you hundreds of clips like that. We have them,” he said, like a hostage-taker playing with our hopes. “I had some clips from Anthony that were really good.” Specifically, our courageous commander-in-chief had some clips of the good doctor saying he had saved “a lot of lives” with his so-called travel ban.

    So what if he retweeted some random supporter who used the hashtag #FireFauci? “That’s somebody’s opinion,” Trump said, unconvincingly, while also saying, unconvincingly, that he wasn’t firing him. “Not everybody’s happy with Anthony. Not everybody’s happy with everybody.”

    Not everybody is safe in their homes at night. Not everybody gets in their car without it blowing up.

    And not everybody spends all their free time searching for something nice to retweet about himself. Even if it comes from random callers on C-Span.


    It may possibly be the case – and we must be careful in our diagnosis without full testing capabilities – that this president is a microscopically small virus inhabiting the body of a very large nation.

    What other kind of organism would claim to have “total authority” over his own country? Only a mutant life form relying on that non-existent line in the constitution that says, as he put it, “when someone is president of the United States, the authority is total”.

    We could wait for the massed ranks of the Republican party, and all the many judges it has recently confirmed to lifetime appointments, to condemn such brazenly un-American sentiments. After all, these are the same people who claimed that Obamacare was unconstitutional.

    Or we could just sit back and admire the brilliance of this virus who has outsmarted the world’s constitutional conservatives, its medical scientists and the deviant media.

    Is it bold? Absolutely. Is it leadership? We’ll get back to you in November.
    “If we stop testing right now we’d have very few cases, if any.” Donald J Trump.

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    I've just seen an exchange on FB where one person was pointing out Trump's failings over coronavirus and the comments he made downplaying it and another person flat-out denying that and blaming it on a conspiracy from the media / elites. That's the power of Trump: he can tell baldfaced lies and with the minimal of gaslighting effort have his supporters repeat them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    God almighty what a monumental prick.

    The Washington Post reports that Donald Trump’s name will be added to to $1,200 relief checks being sent to 70 million Americans – and that this “unprecedented” decision will “slow their delivery by several days.”
    Colbert: "That legally makes you a porn star".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    God almighty what a monumental prick.

    The Washington Post reports that Donald Trump’s name will be added to to $1,200 relief checks being sent to 70 million Americans – and that this “unprecedented” decision will “slow their delivery by several days.”

    Brilliant marketing.

    He's being a cvnt to the recipients for whom the delay in the arrival will cause distress.

    Who gives a fuck? Certainly not the POTUS

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    I've just seen an exchange on FB where one person was pointing out Trump's failings over coronavirus and the comments he made downplaying it and another person flat-out denying that and blaming it on a conspiracy from the media / elites. That's the power of Trump: he can tell baldfaced lies and with the minimal of gaslighting effort have his supporters repeat them.
    don't be ridiculous, Trump alone or his staff couldn't change a lightbulb in the WH, what makes you think they could have fixed this from the start?

    it was going to be a shitshow from day 1, so at least he is entertaining us with his best performance. The truth is irrelevant here, everyone is wrong.

    Wonderboy Press Darling Obama would have fucked up the same, and wouldn't have saved anyone with a big cheque like Trump did !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly
    don't be ridiculous, Trump alone or his staff couldn't change a lightbulb in the WH, what makes you think they could have fixed this from the start?
    Nice non-sequitur. Who said anything about fixing it from the start. Not denying, lying, and trying to pass the buck would've been a better start.

    Trump is more concerned with his TV ratings and turning media sessions into mini-campaign rallies.

    Meanwhile people are dying, if you think that's something to troll over then fill yer boots I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Not denying, lying, and trying to pass the buck would've been a better start.
    every leaders have lied and tried to blame someone else from the start, so not sure how Trump is different

    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Trump is more concerned with his TV ratings and turning media sessions into mini-campaign rallies.
    and you seem surprised by this, the whole point of his presidency was to demonstrate how every POTUS for the last 30 years have been PR stunts and Press clowns

    Obama was particularly good in that regard, and Hillary would have been a superb contender as another PR ass clown

    Trump is making it so obvious, you are missing the point

    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Meanwhile people are dying, if you think that's something to troll over then fill yer boots I guess.
    People will be dying regardless of Trump clown show or not, so again you are being ridiculous. He can't do anything, and his staff can't either. Actually nobody can do anything to stop people dying from this, so maybe you should go to Church and pray to vent your frustration

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    every leaders have lied and tried to blame someone else from the start, so not sure how Trump is different


    and you seem surprised by this, the whole point of his presidency was to demonstrate how every POTUS for the last 30 years have been PR stunts and Press clowns

    Obama was particularly good in that regard, and Hillary would have been a superb contender as another PR ass clown

    Trump is making it so obvious, you are missing the point


    People will be dying regardless of Trump clown show or not, so again you are being ridiculous. He can't do anything, and his staff can't either. Actually nobody can do anything to stop people dying from this, so maybe you should go to Church and pray to vent your frustration
    Would you like a banana, Butters?



    It's all you trolling is worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    did you just look at yourself in the mirror again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    every leaders have lied and tried to blame someone else from the start, so not sure how Trump is different
    You are not sure?
    I'll tell you then, every leader is not lying 10 times every day, every leader is not lying every time they open their mouth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    don't be ridiculous, Trump alone or his staff couldn't change a lightbulb in the WH, what makes you think they could have fixed this from the start?
    So, how the clever administration of the states should know what to do and manage properly when they do not get an advice from the stooopid leader?

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    how Ardern and her Minister of Health address the nation and reporters
    Is this the health minister that took a trip to the beach and got demoted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    You are not sure?
    I'll tell you then, every leader is not lying 10 times every day, every leader is not lying every time they open their mouth.
    are you sure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    So, how the clever administration of the states should know what to do and manage properly when they do not get an advice from the stooopid leader?
    can you try in English?

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    I could try in French but it would not result much better for you to get it that it was meant as tongue-in-cheek...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonTurd
    the whole point of his presidency was to demonstrate how every POTUS for the last 30 years have been PR stunts and Press clowns
    I realize this goes without saying, but (as usual) you make absolutely no sense.
    One minute, you’re telling us how great he is, and how perfect he’s handling things, the next, it’s a “shit show.”



    Quote Originally Posted by DragonTurd
    you are missing the point
    No, I think everyone gets the point. You desperately want to come across as insightful, intelligent, and relevant, and time after time, you fail, miserably. I would say, stop making a fool of yourself, but it’s quite obvious you have no shame, and just to stupid to understand.
    Last edited by beachbound; 17-04-2020 at 01:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    did you just look at yourself in the mirror again?




    Another zinger!

    How does he do it?


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