Thread: President Donald Trump

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

You've named three other people one of whom isn’t a leader in the sense being discussed. No wonder you keep posting such absolute bollocks with a limited outlook as that.

We are all born ignorant but it takes effort to remain so and you are working very, very hard Butters. Take a break!

now you are being your stubborn self again, and fail to see facts because they are "questioning" your rigid idea of the world

I note your nice deflection to address the similarity in leadership, I take it as a big win since you fail to address it properly

meanwhile in the real world, Trump will get re-elected and continue his daily shitshow, without consulting you or take your inputs into consideration

actually no global leaders will take your inputs into consideration

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

actually no global leaders will take your inputs into consideration

I hope the two of you are equals on that particular point

^^...so much complete and utter shit.

Dunno why anyone bothers with him.

Originally Posted by helge

I hope the two of you are equals on that particular point

well, I fully support Trump and his leadership, so don't look at me for a different input. Ask Ant

Originally Posted by cyrille

Dunno why anyone bothers with him.

and yet, you can't help but reply, boring dumbo

zzzzz

Originally Posted by cyrille

Dunno why anyone bothers with him.

Put him on ignore ages ago.

Just spouts absolute drivel *all the time*.

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

I have no faith in polls.Just like the the polls that said he would loose the last election.

so why is this poll correct?

This really shouldn’t need to be explained, but…

First of all, the Pew Research Center is about as non-partisan as you’re going to get. Secondly, comparing the two polls is ridiculous. Asking people’s opinion about a current event, is a lot different than asking people what they think may, or may not happen in a future event.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Put him on ignore ages ago.

Just spouts absolute drivel *all the time*.

poor little snowflake, got owned too many times to take it anymore

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

and yet he will be re-elected,

all global leaders have been slow in their reaction, and they all try to justify themselves, but the pointing fingers will hit the shitfan once everyone is back to normal

You don't know that for sure, butterball. If he does get re-elected then the US people are as stupid as I think they are.

Originally Posted by beachbound

65% of Americans think he’s dropped the ball, and he’s sweating bullets.
He spent the entire press conference tonight trying to convince viewers he was on top of things. Poll: 65% of Americans say Trump was too slow to address coronavirus - Axios

Yup, I saw that wreck on TV. He's so great..the US is doing so much and he had the audacity to say that there aren't many cases in the US.
He has the biggest ego on the planet and is in total denial. Sure folks, let us open the economy on May 1st and commit mass suicide.. ffs.

Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe

Yup, I saw that wreck on TV. He's so great..the US is doing so much and he had the audacity to say that there aren't many cases in the US.
He has the biggest ego on the planet and is in total denial. Sure folks, let us open the economy on May 1st and commit mass suicide.. ffs.

If it's only trumpanzees it's no loss and great business for the funeral homes.

Trump on hydroxychloroquine: "What do you have to lose? And a lot of people are saying that, and are taking it."

What's the harm in a buffoon and his sycophants pushing unqualified medical advice and what have you got to lose? Well your life for one thing:

More deaths, no benefit from malaria drug in VA virus study

More deaths, no benefit from malaria drug in VA virus study

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

what have you got to lose?

Yup, I'm suffocating so ah ain't gonna try it, might hurt my heart.

FO Ant - your intelligence, or lack there of is showing.

Originally Posted by bowie

Yup, I'm suffocating so ah ain't gonna try it, might hurt my heart.

FO Ant - your intelligence, or lack there of is showing.

Uh ohes triggered Trumptard alert!

The subject was your giant orange douchebags reckless pushing of a dangerous drug not your butthurt over me, bowie.

Or are you not intelligent enough to tell the difference?

Originally Posted by beachbound

Worth a watch ... was even toe tapping by the end

An interesting read / perspective:

We Are Living in a Failed State

The coronavirus didn’t break America. It revealed what was already broken.


When the virus came here, it found a country with serious underlying conditions, and it exploited them ruthlessly. Chronic ills—a corrupt political class, a sclerotic bureaucracy, a heartless economy, a divided and distracted public—had gone untreated for years. We had learned to live, uncomfortably, with the symptoms. It took the scale and intimacy of a pandemic to expose their severity—to shock Americans with the recognition that we are in the high-risk category.

The crisis demanded a response that was swift, rational, and collective. The United States reacted instead like Pakistan or Belarus—like a country with shoddy infrastructure and a dysfunctional government whose leaders were too corrupt or stupid to head off mass suffering. The administration squandered two irretrievable months to prepare. From the president came willful blindness, scapegoating, boasts, and lies. From his mouthpieces, conspiracy theories and miracle cures. A few senators and corporate executives acted quickly—not to prevent the coming disaster, but to profit from it. When a government doctor tried to warn the public of the danger, the White House took the mic and politicized the message.

...[snip]

The Coronavirus Revealed America’s Failures - The Atlantic

Originally Posted by panama hat

the Dem plans must sound much, much better

Yup, they sounded better, but, the truth of the matter was the Affordable Care Act was far from affordable. All it did was required insurance companies to accept preexisting conditions, which they then covered by passing on the cost to all by increasing premiums.

Speaking from experience - real numbers - 58/59yo male, 53yo female, ACA premiums USD $1,200/mo. with a USD $15k deductible. So, if either party gets sick they have for pay USD $29k out-of-pocket BEFORE the insurance company has to pay one cent.

Affordable??? depends upon how far you can stretch your imagination - the numbers above is/are the cheapest of the quotations I received. I received four quotations. And, to further expand, this insurance plan required me to use Doctors and hospitals in the next county over - more than an hours drive away.

Originally Posted by panama hat

Possibly the most important thing to come out of the covid-19 issue is the realisation by many Americans that relying on work-related healthcare is an exercise in futility, especially as many companies work on some sort of Delaware employment contract - no wrongful termination - so, adios and kiss your health cover good bye.

You'd think so yes but then you need to remember that a significant proportion of Americans thought that a black man trying to give them affordable healthcare was a socialist/commie/Marxist/Mooslim plot to take over the country.

These are not smart people.

Originally Posted by bowie

Yup, they sounded better, but, the truth of the matter was the Affordable Care Act was far from affordable. All it did was required insurance companies to accept preexisting conditions, which they then covered by passing on the cost to all by increasing premiums.

Oh my fucking word, that must be SOCIALISM!

And let's not forget that the Republicans have basically sabotaged it from the get go.

You lot swallow anything don't you?

How Republicans quietly sabotaged Obamacare long before Trump came into office | Salon.com

Did Republicans Sabotage Obamacare Implementation? - Econlib

12 ways the GOP sabotaged Obamacare | healthinsurance.org

And baldy orange cunto and McConnell are still trying to sabotage it now.

It's almost like they want people who are sick and can't afford health care to die.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Oh my fucking word, that must be SOCIALISM!

And let's not forget that the Republicans have basically sabotaged it from the get go.

You lot swallow anything don't you?

How Republicans quietly sabotaged Obamacare long before Trump came into office | Salon.com

Did Republicans Sabotage Obamacare Implementation? - Econlib

12 ways the GOP sabotaged Obamacare | healthinsurance.org

And baldy orange cunto and McConnell are still trying to sabotage it now.

It's almost like they want people who are sick and can't afford health care to die.

simple solution. Rename it "Trumpcare".....(with his name on it he will ignore the screeching conflict with his avowed political views - or may not even see a conflict in the first place)

Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe

Yup, I saw that wreck on TV. He's so great..the US is doing so much and he had the audacity to say that there aren't many cases in the US.
He has the biggest ego on the planet and is in total denial. Sure folks, let us open the economy on May 1st and commit mass suicide.. ffs.

Should be quite obvious to most everyone that there are deep sociopathic and psychotic traits at work.
Some might suggest a closer reflection of the culture.

...Quarantined Americans Who Do Nothing But Eat and Watch TV Realize They Could Be President

Well, actually the Affordable Care Act is still in effect.

However, the two vehicles that were to fund most of it, the Cadillac Tax and the Individual Mandate are dead - Trump killed the individual mandate after good ole McCain showed his childish side with his grandiose thumbs down HaHa gotcha gesture. As far as the Cadillac Tax - well, perhaps you Dems can explain how The Democratic-led House of Representatives has overwhelmingly voted to repeal a tax on high-cost health insurance plans under Obamacare known as the "Cadillac tax." The 419-6 vote is a signal of bipartisan unity against a key provision of the Affordable Care Act.

Now, as far as our do nothing repubs - for all the caterwauling they did throughout Obamas administration and the campaigning leading up to the elections - paraphrasing Trumps word - Trump said he expected the repubs to have their plan on his desk for signature on day one. Naught but a bunch of bullshit artists. They delivered squat - because they have squat.

But - the truth of the matter is the medicos, pharmas and insurance companies have all american politicians in their pockets - the system is set up and maintained by expert financiers (best money can buy) to soak every last penny out of the american public provided under the guise of the very best medical care money can buy - it truly is the worlds best con game.

And, they'll play both sides against each other in a most grandiose show and the american public, dems and repubs, accept it, because... They Can Not Fix It... it has grown for too long and is deeply ingrained - tear down and rebuilt...