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    Wow. This idiot just goes from terrible to...indescribable.

    Trump brags about how his press briefings about a deadly pandemic that is killing Americans get ratings comparable to "The Bachelor" or "Monday Night Football"
    https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1244399817960361985/video/1

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    He's just an atrocious human being.

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    ^ ^^ Yep ... he's being a total, self-interested, self-obsessed, blowing one own's trumpet ... DICK

    ... and that's a very small trumpet indeed

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    We (the USA) are going to be open by Easter ... pack 'dem Churches to the rafters!


    Umm ... Mr President ... we can't do that.

    Damm the torpedoes, FULL STEAM AHEAD.

    But, Mr President, thousands may die if we proceed with that attitude.


    Don't care ... the Cure can't be worse then the Cause.
    Anyway, I've got a re-election agenda to consider!


    But, Mr President, if thousands, even worse, tens of thousands people die and that bad man Biden pins it to you, you may, as impossible as it seems given your obvious popularity, you may, just may, not be re-elected.

    What! ... OK ... change of tact ...


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    Trump extends social distancing guidelines through April 30 to keep US coronavirus death toll below 100,000



    Key Points

    • President Donald Trump on Sunday extended the national social distancing guidelines to April 30, walking back his previous remarks that he wanted the country to reopen for business by Easter.
    • “Nothing would be worse than declaring victory before the victory has been won,” Trump said at an evening press briefing after suggesting that the coronavirus death rate would likely peak in two weeks.
    • Public health experts had warned that loosening restrictions by Easter, on April 12, would result in unnecessary death and economic damage.
    • Trump said the administration is working to keep the projected death toll below 100,000.


    Coronavirus: Trump extends social distancing guidelines through April 30
    “Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago”

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    Ruh Roh Rudy's being a retard again. Trying to get back in baldy orange cunto's favour no doubt.

    Rudy Giuliani had a Twitter post deleted over the weekend and his account temporarily blocked after he spread "COVID19 misinformation".

    Giuliani, Donald Trump's personal attorney and the former Mayor of New York City, claimed that the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine has been proven to safeguard against coronavirus, something experts say is not the case.

    "Hydroxychloroquine has been shown to have a 100% effective rate treating COVID-19 yet Democrat Gretchen Whitmer is threatening doctors who prescribe it," Giuliani tweeted.


    "If Trump is for something - Democrats are against it. They're okay with people dying if it means opposing Trump".

    According to Fox News, Giuliani copied the tweet from conservative youth activist Charlie Kirk, with the media outlet reporting that Twitter had confirmed that the post was taken down and both accounts were temporarily locked due to a violation of its user rules regarding the spread of COVID-19 misinformation.

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2020/03/coronavirus-rudy-giuliani-has-twitter-account-temporarily-blocked-for-spreading-covid-19-misinformation.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Ruh Roh Rudy's being a retard again. Trying to get back in baldy orange cunto's favour no doubt.
    And in the meantime millions of halfwit inbreds will have read it and believed it

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    I see the usual anti-Trump tards are in full steam this morning,

    hydroxychloroquine is not COVID mis-information, it's being tested and early tests have proved to be good, and it has just been approved here for the fight against COVID

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    COVID-19 Daily: New Hydroxychloroquine Data, Dire PPE Shortages

    Here are the latest coronavirus stories Medscape's editors around the globe think you need to know about today:

    More Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) Data

    The same French researchers who created buzz over a potential treatment for COVID-19 released new data that they say bolsters the idea that HCQ with azithromycin is effective in battling the virus.

    The uncontrolled study of 80 patients found a significant decrease in viral load, but it failed to convince skeptics who want to see studies that include a comparator group.

    The new data are "complementary," said Benjamin Davido, MD, a French infectious diseases expert, but they do not provide new information or new statistical evidence. He told Medscape France that he personally believes in HCQ, but it would be "a shame to think that we have found the fountain of youth and to realize, in four weeks, that we have the same number of deaths."

    Perry Wilson, MD, provided further context by describing data from the earlier French study as "equivocal at best," arguing for complete transparency about what is known and what is not.

    "If we want to use hydroxychloroquine, that is a reasonable choice, but we need to tell the public the truth: We're not too sure it will work, and it may even be harmful," he said.

    COVID-19 Daily: New Hydroxychloroquine Data, Dire PPE Shortages

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    Well apparently it's really bad for people with heart conditions.

    And the sort of people that listen to the bald orange idiot are like that couple that mixed up their Koi Carp aquarium cleaning solution and drank it, killing one of them.

    Stupid baldy should not be spouting off about things he doesn't understand.

    Wait for empirical evidence, not quotes off Fox News retards.

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    Cool

    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    "If we want to use hydroxychloroquine, that is a reasonable choice, but we need to tell the public the truth: We're not too sure it will work, and it may even be harmful," he said.
    If it's the same cloroquine we ate in the 80's, I can't remember it as harmful.
    Useless too
    They wouldn't dare give it to americans before it's tested

    Too many jewish lawyers holding their breath.
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Well apparently it's really bad for people with heart conditions.
    Wasn't told that, as far as I remember
    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    And in the meantime millions of halfwit inbreds will have read it and believed it
    Yep; we can shout all we want. They do not read TD, watch that other propaganda channel MSNBC or .....

    They listen to Hannity, Limbaugh, Trump and their TV pastor.

    And they probably believe in the Harmagedon too. Comes in handy

    Just forget it. Many americans are a different specie

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    If Trump Can’t Do the Job, Other People Need To

    The president is more hindrance than help, so leaders in and out of government have to plan around him.


    MARCH 30, 2020

    Beyoncé had left the stadium in triumph. Her sultry renditions of “Crazy in Love” and other hits had culminated in the surprise onstage reunion of Destiny’s Child. But just a few minutes later, during the third quarter of Super Bowl XLVII in New Orleans in 2013, half the lights went out in the Superdome. For 34 minutes, the stadium plunged into semidarkness, complete mayhem headed off only by backup systems that kicked in to keep the stadium and 71,000 spectators in half light.

    A disaster, of sorts—or at least it could have been. While the world watched a half-dark stadium, those of us who plan for worst-case scenarios saw the glory of a stadium in half light. Imagine the alternative, we thought. What had staved off a worse outcome? A fail-safe system—a set of mechanisms that activates when something goes wrong—had felt the stresses caused by some electric disruption that was turning the lights off in the Superdome. The fail-safe system had prevented a cascade of other losses.

    Today, as a global pandemic sweeps across 50 states, and COVID-19 case counts spiral upward, America’s fail-safe mechanisms are being strained like never before. The United States has crashed, and the arrival of a novel coronavirus is only one of the causes. The other is that command of the American effort against the pathogen fell to a president unprepared for the challenge and overwhelmed by the demands of his office. The situation is legitimately grounds for despair; we are in the half dark. But some lights are still on, thanks to the sheer grit of those—the governors and mayors, the public- and private-sector experts and operations managers, the corporate CEOs and nonprofit officials—now serving as a counterweight to a president unmoved by what is happening to the United States.

    All of these people surely wish the president would act differently. But they also know they cannot change him. They have no time to spare, and they know what they must do—individually and collectively—to minimize the damage.

    Donald Trump likes to portray himself and his administration as victims of some unknown and unprecedented invasion. Yet while this virus is new, crisis management is not. Ideally, America’s pandemic response would be coordinated by the federal government based on emergency plans, training efforts, and simulation exercises created in the aftermath of previous public-health crises, such as SARS, H1N1, and Ebola. The basic approach to managing a pandemic—recently validated by other countries that appear to have gotten past the peak of their coronavirus outbreak—is to identify and treat people who are infected, send a surge of resources to the hardest-hit places, and buy time for mitigation measures to bring down the infection rate. The relevant plans all envision a strong federal role in supporting state and local responses.

    In a variety of ways, Trump has explicitly ignored this well-established national guidance. He continues to look for the easy exit—the nonexistent vaccine, the miracle treatment. His administration circulates fanciful numbers about the availability of tests. He abandons international cooperation because of his insistence that our allies call COVID-19 the “Wuhan virus.” He disdains scientists and seeks advice from A-Rod. He seeks vengeance against governors who do not praise him lavishly. Most of his supposed contributions are utter madness. On Saturday, the president tweeted bizarrely about imposing a quarantine in New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut. Before he backed off later in the day, officials in those states wasted hours trying to figure out what on Earth he might have meant.

    Fail-safes exist not to fix the underlying problem, but to limit losses. Amid all the disorganization and dysfunction, people are working purposefully to save lives. As Trump promised a quick treatment to solve our woes, a primary adviser—Anthony Fauci, the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases—immediately stepped in to quash the speculation and urge citizens to take shelter instead. As Trump floated an Easter deadline for the end of Americans’ isolation, governors extended social-distancing rules into May. “Yeah, no,” Charlie Baker, the Republican governor of Massachusetts, said Friday. “We’re not going to be up and running by Easter. No.” (Yesterday, Trump finally gave up that pretense.)

    As Trump pretends he is a war president—but only belatedly invokes the Defense Production Act to get a single company, GM, to manufacture a single commodity in the months to come—the leaders of companies such as 3M and China’s Alibaba work through the logistics of getting supplies to those who need them. As Trump says that the states need to take the lead during a national catastrophe that hurts them all, the Federal Emergency Management Agency and the military quietly move medical assets to prepositioned areas, based on long-standing emergency-management principles that require no presidential authorization.

    As Trump touts dubious remedies, private laboratories are showing signs of tremendous progress in both high-volume testing capacity and future treatments. As Trump leads press conferences whose apparent purpose is to draw attention to himself, a nation turns its focus to Governor Andrew Cuomo of New York, whose daily situational-awareness reports highlight the urgency of the effort and offer the public a reminder of what hands-on leadership looks like.

    Trump is now the distraction in chief. The individuals and agencies who are tuning him out and going on with their jobs aren’t quite a “deep state”—the supposedly nefarious national-security bureaucrats whom Trump believes are out to get him—but their efforts do have the feel of an apparatus rushing into a vacuum. This alternative to national leadership is not ideal, and if Trump were suddenly to step up, great. But he won’t, so a hodgepodge of federal bureaucrats, state and local leaders, private companies, and average citizens will keep on planning around his deficiencies.

    Because of Trump, the damage that the United States suffers will be worse than it had to be. Yet while the chaos that he engenders is harmful, it is not dispositive. The stadium is still half-lit.
    After the Super Bowl in 2013, Beyoncé and her flashy stage show were blamed for the Super Bowl blackout, but it wasn’t her fault. An investigation showed that an electrical device that had been installed specifically to prevent a power outage had, ironically, caused one instead. That insufficiently tested device had failed, but banks of lights stayed on because the standard backup apparatus was ready. The outcome was not ideal, but sometimes the backup system is the only protection you’ve got.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/americas-fail-safe-systems-are-holdingfor-now/609016/

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Too many jewish lawyers holding their breath

    go ahead and expand on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peaches View Post
    More Trump devotees are going to succumb to the Coronavirus than
    never Trumper’s.

    Why ?

    Cause, the world’s greatest snake oil salesman is feeding his flock
    poisonous information , simple as that.

    And to be blunt, Donald J Trump is going to be responsible for
    thousands ,and thousands of unnecessary deaths in the US of A.

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    ^
    on a related note, apparently people in the c suite at fox news are concerned about being sued for spreading misinformation.

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    I think even Vlad will be saying "Try not to make it so fucking obvious, you fucking bald orange moron!".

    Donald Trump is suggesting the United States should treat Germany more like an enemy because the two countries were adversaries in World War II as the president again lobbied for closer US-Russian relations.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-germany-coronavirus-ww2-enemy-allies-russia-putin-a9435906.html?fbclid=IwAR1lVjoVbhXiBezm6rcJiEUw3hm h-F2QP9SXZwAU08NC5HfPfNVOZto2drc

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    And have a look how presidunce baldy is solving this:


    Five years ago, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services tried to plug a crucial hole in its preparations for a global pandemic, signing a $13.8 million contract with a Pennsylvania manufacturer to create a low-cost, portable, easy-to-use ventilator that could be stockpiled for emergencies.

    This past September, with the design of the new Trilogy Evo Universal finally cleared by the Food and Drug Administration, HHS ordered 10,000 of the ventilators for the Strategic National Stockpile at a cost of $3,280 each.

    But as the pandemic continues to spread across the globe, there is still not a single Trilogy Evo Universal in the stockpile.

    Instead last summer, soon after the FDA’s approval, the Pennsylvania company that designed the device — a subsidiary of the Dutch appliance and technology giant Royal Philips N.V. — began selling two higher-priced commercial versions of the same ventilator around the world.

    “We sell to whoever calls,” said a saleswoman at a small medical-supply company on Staten Island that bought 50 Trilogy Evo ventilators from Philips in early March and last week hiked its online price from $12,495 to $17,154. “We have hundreds of orders to fill. I think America didn’t take this seriously at first, and now everyone’s frantic.”
    Yeah guess what....

    Last Friday, President Donald Trump invoked the Defense Production Act to compel General Motors to begin mass-producing another company’s ventilator under a federal contract. But neither Trump nor other senior officials made any mention of the Trilogy Evo Universal. Nor did HHS officials explain why they did not force Philips to accelerate delivery of these ventilators earlier this year, when it became clear that the virus was overwhelming medical facilities around the world.

    An HHS spokeswoman told ProPublica that Philips had agreed to make the Trilogy Evo Universal ventilator “as soon as possible.” However, a Philips spokesman said the company has no plan to even begin production anytime this year.

    Instead, Philips is negotiating with a White House team led by Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, to build 43,000 more complex and expensive hospital ventilators for Americans stricken by the virus.
    Taxpayers Paid Millions to Design a Low-Cost Ventilator for a Pandemic. Instead, the Company Is Selling Versions of It Overseas. — ProPublica

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    It took them a while, but it looks like Republicans have found their excuse for Trump’s piss poor response to the coronavirus crisis.

    McConnell claims impeachment ‘diverted the attention’ of Trump administration from coronavirus response


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mcconnell-claims-impeachment-diverted-the-attention-of-trump-administration-from-coronavirus-response/2020/03/31/6cd84128-736f-11ea-a9bd-9f8b593300d0_story.html
    Last edited by beachbound; 01-04-2020 at 05:07 AM.

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    ^ and half the population will eat it up as though it were gospel

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    Baldy on Feb. 19: “I think the numbers are going to get progressively better as we go along.” Four days later, he pronounced the situation “very much under control,” and added: “We had 12, at one point. And now they’ve gotten very much better. Many of them are fully recovered.”

    2nd Apr:

    More than 6.6 million people filed jobless claims in the week ended 28 March, the Department of Labor said.
    That is nearly double the week earlier, which was also a new record.

    Coronavirus: US jobless claims hit 6.6 million as virus spreads - BBC News

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    US facing hunger crisis as demand for food banks soars

    Wrong Thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Wrong Thread
    Maybe not...

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    President Donald Trump-11_105-jpg

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    Worth a look.
    Lots of good information including the methods low case count countries like Taiwan and finland are using

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    Donald Trump fires intelligence watchdog who sparked impeachment process

    How the Guardian saw it ...

    Donald Trump has fired the inspector general for the intelligence community who handled the whistleblower complaint that led to his impeachment, prompting fierce criticism from Democrats.

    The US president chose a Friday night, with America consumed by the coronavirus pandemic, to tell the House of Representatives and Senate intelligence committees of his decision to dismiss Michael Atkinson.

    In a letter, Trump claimed it was “vital” that he had confidence in the appointees serving as inspectors general, and “that is no longer the case with regard to this inspector general”.

    Donald Trump fires intelligence watchdog who sparked impeachment process | US news | The Guardian

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    How Fox News saw it ...

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