Thread: Bilderberg 2016...

Originally Posted by chassamui

Originally Posted by Neo

Quote: Originally Posted by Neo View Post 20 posts in and he's already been owned by Fluke

Don't be ridiculous. Fluke couldn't own his own brain cell.

Correct. Even his attempt at trolling me on this thread has failed, not least because I am ignoring his tawdry existence on here, but will pop over to one of his little "ohhh whine whine whine the world doesn't understand me" efforts later on to annoy the fuck out of him.

So anyway, help me out here folk. Where can you see a list of scheduled appearances for US Selection politicians (and trump)? Lets have a look who is not on parade int he US and will be jetting to Germany for a visit.

here you go FLAKE - learn something. Even a dumb blonde gets it.

Spain had an election fairly recently - a complete fook up of course, with a caretaker government and PM.

"Albert Rivera, the leader of the pro-market group Ciudadanos, said that the questions over caretaker Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy’s integrity make it impossible to serve under him in any coalition after this month’s election."

Spain?s Rivera Won?t Govern With Rajoy Due to Graft Allegations - Bloomberg

Invited to this years Bildeberg is none other than PM in waiting Albert Rivera, corporatist, and the person who will definately sell out everything left in the nation to the elite to funnel money to the bankster.

WOooo hooo. NO wonder he got his invite, to get his order book full and private numbered seychelles account just as full as well.

Wonder how long it will be after BILDERBERG that he will be crowned?

Still want to see Boris slinking in there. They have to get him in as he will be crowned as PM soon.

Also, there will be a couple of blairite big wig MPs there as well, along with pedo Mandy who is always there.

Bilderberg 2016: The Elephant in the Lobby ? Transparency International UK

BILDERBERG 2016: THE ELEPHANT IN THE LOBBY



On Thursday of next week, at a luxury hotel in central Dresden, the doors of the annual Bilderberg policy conference will be flung open. Not to members of the press, mind. In fact, perhaps “flung” is overstating it. Gingerly, behind a battalion of armed police, private security and secret service bodyguards, the hotel door will be cracked ajar, and in will slide a handpicked few of the most senior corporate executives in the world: board members of transnational banks, chairmen of global energy companies, and the owners of vast industrial and media conglomerates.

Scurrying in behind the bank bosses and hedge-fund billionaires will be a clutch of extremely senior politicians from around Europe: Chancellors, PMs, party leaders and finance ministers. Last year, the President of Austria and the Prime Ministers of Holland and Belgium took part in the discussions. Our own esteemed Chancellor of the Exchequer, George Osborne, is a regular attendee, David Cameron himself was ushered inside in 2013, and Lord Mandelson is often to be found popping on a coveted white lanyard. This year, most notably, a hefty contigent from the German cabinet is due to attend.

Inquiries made by the left-wing Die Linke party prompted the German government to confirm that Chancellor Angel Merkel has been invited to the Dresden conference, along with five senior federal ministers: Wolfgang Schäuble (Finance); Ursula von der Leyen (Defence); Frank-Walter Steinmeier (Foreign Affairs), Sigmar Gabriel (Economic Affairs and Energy); and Peter Altmaier (Special Affairs, and in charge of German’s intelligence services).

On the table: the most pressing economic, military and strategic issues of the day. Around the table: the assembled heads of NATO, Deutsche Bank, Airbus, the IMF and Google. Stretching out before them: three days of intense, meticulously structured talks, with nothing but a laughably skeletal agenda released to the press. What the organisers deign to provide is scarcely better than nothing – a weedy list of brilliantly vague bullet points, like “current events” and “Africa”, as if that’s any sort of information at all. I’d be genuinely more impressed if their entire press release was a grainy photograph of the Clacton seafront. It would be intellectually more honest, and a great deal less irritating.

As for the politicians who attend: all those solemn trumpetings about a new age of transparency – quietly forgotten on the flight home. Just one example: George Osborne’s risible post-Bilderberg report to the public, in his quarterly transparency data, is the same two words each year: “general discussion”. That’s his summary of 3 days of meetings. Yeah, thanks for keeping us in the loop, George. That’s great. I almost feel like I was there in the room. You should write a novel.

I should say, not all the politicians in Germany are delighted by the prospect of the Dresden summit. The chairman of Die Linke in the Saxony parliament, Rico Gebhardt, has spoken out against the coming conference, stressing the fundamental incompatibility of “the democratic process” and this chronic level of “untransparency”. According to Gebhardt, “politics thrives on transparency and legitimacy” – but then you have to remember, even with so many politicians attending, and so many policies being thrashed out, Bilderberg isn’t really politics.

As Hannibal Lecter says, paraphrasing Marcus Aurelius: “of each thing, ask: what is it – in and of itself?” And Bilderberg I would have to say – in its very essence – is lobbying.

A three-day corporate-funded lock-in with a bunch of cherrypicked ministers and European Commissioners: no wonder the oil company CEOs and hedge-fund billionaires take time out of their boardrooms for Bilderberg. Technology, war, diplomacy, globalisation – these people don’t have a dry, academic interest in these subjects, like a professor of entemology is fascinated by the knee-joints of the centipede. They’re focused on these policy areas like a vampire on a neck-pulse. Whether it’s austerity or sustainability, foreign affairs or cyberspace, it’s all business. And business is everything.

Of course, some of the lobbying is ideological: there are people at Bilderberg for whom globalisation is nothing short of a religion and a European superstate is a tremendous, glittering utopia – a glorious stepping-stone towards a Pepsi future of globalised thought and consumption. But even for the old-school globalists like Henry Kissinger, David Rockefeller and Étienne Davignon, the grand vision of a globalised future is always underpinned by a kind of hawkish hunger for dollars. The twin goals of governance and greed are so entwined in a kind of Googlosophy of life that I couldn’t begin to unpick them.

What I can say is that for industrialists and ideologues alike, the annual Bilderberg conference is the Wimbledon Championships of the lobbying calendar. Although unlike Wimbledon, the BBC doesn’t send 300 journalists and cameramen to cover it. Or indeed, anyone at all.

Even after 60-odd years, the mainstream media still doesn’t quite know how to talk about Bilderberg. It hasn’t got the language. The problem, I suspect, is this: the lobbying at Bilderberg takes place at such a high level (Chairman to Chancellor, CEO to Prime Minister, bank boss to Nato Secretary-General) that the basic business going on behind closed doors is easily overlooked. It’s all so lofty and prime-ministerial, that you’re apt to forget what what the CEO of Titan Cement Co. is doing there in the first place.

Bilderberg has the pseudo-academic gloss of a conference, with policies passed off as “megatrends”, and a heady sprinkle of European royals for glitz, but at its root, it’s nothing more than good, old-fashioned corporate lobbying. What you’re seeing is the Anglo-American financial and industrial establishment doing business. It’s three days’ hard work. And you can be damned sure the Vice-Chairman of Blackrock and the CEO of JPMorgan Asset Management wouldn’t be there unless it was three days that paid.

In this context, it’s instructive to compare the Bilderberg summit with a similarly unpublic gathering: a little-known Brussels lobbying event called AMISA2, which was recently written about by the Corporate Europe Observatory research and campaign group.

AMISA2 takes the form of a monthly breakfast, attended by representatives from seventeen major corporations, and a special guest from the world of public policy (often, the European Commission).

There’s quite a considerable crossover in the corporations present at the two events. Five of the seventeen companies at AMISA2 have a senior executive who is currently on the steering committee of Bilderberg: ABB, Airbus, Bayer, Norsk Hydro and Google. Another four corporations have a director or CEO who has attended at least one Bilderberg conference: Dow, ExxonMobil, Michelin and Roche.

But here’s the difference: according to the Corporate Europe Observatory “only the head of a Brussels office can participate in AMISA2 breakfast meetings, so effectively that company’s top EU lobbyist.” At Bilderberg, it’s not the head of the Brussels office wearing the white lanyard, it’s the head of the company.

AMISA2 might attract the head of staff of a European Commissioner. At Bilderberg you’re more likely to bump into the President of the EC itself. There’s even an ex-EC President (Barroso) on the steering committee. And there’s the sheer scale of the event: at Bilderberg, it’s a three-day working conference with NSA snipers on the roof, not a plate of eggs with a hovering waitress.

And yet the AMISA2 breakfast is more obviously and understandably an example of “lobbying” in action. It’s compact enough to fit inside the concepts we have of undue influence and unaccountable corporate access to policymakers. Bilderberg is so big and brazen, so bursting with ministers and billionaires, that it confounds our ability to talk about it in the mundane and grubby terms of corporate lobbying. It’s the elephant in the lobby.

Wittgenstein said: “whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.” And when it comes to Bilderberg, mainstream journalists really need to learn how to speak about it, sensibly and accurately, so they can start reporting on it for what it is, with all the quiet, unhysterical disdain that it so richly deserves.

This year’s Bilderberg Conference is taking place in Dresden, June 9-12, at the Hotel Taschenbergpalais Kempinski. Charlie Skelton will be reporting on it for the Guardian, and tweeting from Dresden on @deyook.

Lobbying and paying off is surely the name of the game at the top of the food chain. A sad reality but never-the-less a reality.
China and Russia don't require these 'social' functions as the decisions to who plays on the playground and how the pie will be eaten are held firmly in hand at the top.

Pseu, I simply can't believe that you will not be attending alongside with Henry Kissinger.
I surely know you would have quite a bit to chat about. I'll betcha there'll be quite a bit of nice tail circulating nearby in order to greet, meet and make some new clients.

^ PLay the ball, not the player.

This is a balanced thread about bilderberg as you will not from the range of stuff I am posting on here.

It is not about lobbying though - if it were that simple, well lobbying is legal in the US and mostly in Europe (Brussels is all about lobbying). However, anyone who does not think there is something suspect about Bilderberg is someone who only reads the mainstream press and is dumb enough to fall for the CIA "call em conspiracy theorists to stop them asking questions" ruse which is documented.

Anyone know where a list of dates for Trump, Killary and Bernie are held? Lets see who disappears to Germany next week and then you will know who has been selected.

I assume that pseudo's big worry is that they put together their annual assassination target list and he's at the top of it.

Such is his level of delusion.

Newsflash pseudopuss: You really are completely irrelevant and your low self esteem is totally justified.

There are actually a whole lot of legitimate questions to be asked about this Bilderberg thingy. What the loons don't realise is there their witterings are actually a sideshow and distraction from this. And apparently they don't seem too concerned with the question of why this all powerful cabal who are meeting to influence world events don't have the wherewithal to conduct their meeting in secret and, in fact, appear to publicize and make a great deal of fuss and noise about it.

Actually the subject of the OP is credible.
Are these meetings privy to the masses...will they be recorded and disseminated to the outside world ?
In a nutshell, no.

I can only hark back to Neville Chamberlain's meeting with Herr Hitler and Chamberlain's glorified 1938 proclaimation of "peace for our time" once arriving back on British soil.
How many lives were cast into the abyss that followed with the ink from a quill...(and what was really discussed behind those closed doors.)

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

events don't have the wherewithal to conduct their meeting in secret and,

Try again. For decades is was secret, virtually no one knows about. Only now because the independent media is forcing the mainstream corporate media to mention it. Also, how many other Bilderberg meetings are there each year Ant, as they are so public about them all? There are 3 other main ones. You knew that? No.

50 soccer players have a meeting in a hotel, the press will be reporting it for a month before, during, and a month after. Do a Google NEws search right now, and you will see NO... ZERO stories about bilderberg or even mentioning it in the mainstream press in the last 2 months. None. This is 120-150 of the most powerful people in the world meeting in secret (as in,... what they say and talk about it secret, and corporate and senior politicians are discussing and making policy in private... in secret). Nothing in the press. NOTHING.

You're the LOON sunshine if you think this is a good thing, a normal thing, that they should be allowed to get on with this,if you think they are doing good work.

Originally Posted by PeeCoffee

Are these meetings privy to the masses...will they be recorded and disseminated to the outside world ?
In a nutshell, no.

George Osbourne reports each time he attends in two words "General Discussions".

That is it. Three days with the worlds most powerful and rich people, in secret, making policy decisions (which is PROVEN from leaked minutes of their meetings in the past) and all he says is "generel discussions".

Originally Posted by pseudolus

if you think they are doing good work.

And where did I suggest that I did.

You need to give up on trying to tell others what they do/don't think or do as a premise to trumpeting your own intellectually superiority because not only are you invariably wrong but it's just not that smart a thing to do.

^ yeah whatever Ant - not playing your game anymore. Discuss the subject in hand rather than your opinions of the messenger.

I'm curious (though off topic)...is that Sidney James in your avatar ?

Yes it is. Sid didn't hold much truck with Bilderberg I would assume. Not enough crumpet there. High proportion of these fuckers at Bilderberg are nonces and the rent boys going in and out of these places where their meetings are is legendary.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

^ yeah whatever Ant - not playing your game anymore. Discuss the subject in hand rather than your opinions of the messenger.

Too late to be playing the victim after casting out your usual mix of ad hominem and logical fallacies, pseudo. Just makes you look like a precious and whiny hypocrite.

For a genius you really aren't that smart.

^ yeah whatever Ant - not playing your game anymore. Discuss the subject in hand rather than your opinions of the messenger.

https://file.wikileaks.org/file/bild...eport-1958.pdf

Anyway, the leaked minutes of the 1958 meeting should hold interest to anyone with a passing fascination in NATO, Monetary union and the rights of individual nations to adopt monetary policy that favours its people rather than the global business community (they frown upon that). Also some insights into exactly how big the fraud was that we lovingly called the Cold War.

Remain or Brexit? Suspect remain. Herd is more malleable that way.

Originally Posted by chassamui

Remain or Brexit? Suspect remain. Herd is more malleable that way.

As the EU was cemented and directed from BD, as the leaks show, it is clear that they will be working for the Remain vote. However, I am waiting to see if Gove or Boris is going to Bilderberg as they will be responsible for crashing the country until such a point that the people cry to go back in, if they leave.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by pseudolus

^ yeah whatever Ant - not playing your game anymore. Discuss the subject in hand rather than your opinions of the messenger.

Too late to be playing the victim after casting out your usual mix of ad hominem and logical fallacies, pseudo. Just makes you look like a precious and whiny hypocrite.

For a genius you really aren't that smart.

Genius my arse.

He's an idiot.

nothing on netflicks harrynomates?

Why don't you try just once commenting on topic? Just once?

Fooking pathetic.

From a year ago

4 things we know about the secretive Bilderberg Group and 1 thing we'll never know | World | News | The Independent

4 things we know about the secretive Bilderberg Group and 1 thing we'll never know

The secretive meeting brings together big international business and top-level government



The Bilderberg Group has long been the subject of speculation. But what do we really know about the secretive international meetings between top politicians and bosses?

We know where the meetings are held



The location of the meetings is now public. Last year, the Danish capital of Cophenhagen was the venue of choice.

This year, the world's elites will travel to the Interalpen-Hotel Tyrol in the Austrian Alps.

We know who attends them



The group releases a list of attendees. From the UK this year George Osborne and Ed Balls are attending.

Other people going to the 2015 meet-up include José Barroso, the former EU Commission President, and executives from firms including Google, BP, Shell, and Deutsche Bank.

We know what's on the agenda
Prior to meetings the group releases broad subject areas for debate. This year, all we know is that they'll be discussing "Artificial Intelligence, Cybersecurity, Chemical Weapons Threats, Current Economic Issues, European Strategy, Globalisation, Greece, Iran, Middle East, NATO, Russia, Terrorism, United Kingdom, USA, US Elections".

A lot of these subjects hints are very broad-ranging. 'United Kingdom', for instance, could be a reference to the Brexit, the recent elections, or both.

We know they take security very seriously



The area around the meetings is put into complete lockdown. There is no need to rely on private security: national governments of host countries cooperate fully and provide police protection.

This year's summit starts on Thursday but already a zone around the Interalpen-Hotel Tyro has been established by Austrian police with security checks on vehicles entering and exiting the area.

Arrests have been made at previous meetings, including of journalists trying to find out what is going on.

But... we'll never know what was said

People who attend the events do not, as a rule, talk about the specifics of what was discussed. This includes politicians whose job is to represent their constituents.

There are no minutes taken of the meetings, and no reports are made of any conclusions reached. No votes are taken and no policies proscribed. Journalists trying to interview participants at meetings have previously been arrested.

The specifics of most international summits and meetings tend to be fairly opaque, but some public announcement is usually made as to conclusions reached.

Not so with the Bilderberg Group; the global establishment departs as quietly as it arrives.

Fairly well balanced article and didn't use the words CONSPIRACY THEORY once. They must be slipping. Of course, no mainstream media journalists do attend or talk about who is going in - just you watch; any coverage of it on the Teletrance Media is about the people outside protesting, laughing at them, calling them tin foil nutters building up the narrative that blowhard wankers like harrynomates wanks over.

I think it's OK for influential people to have back channels to discuss issues that are too complex for tin foil hat tosspots like you pseudopuss.

After all, you're an idiot.

It started full swing...

there are videos of the heavy policed hotel and the coming of the choosen elite

Their secret agenda not so secret