Thread: Israel will never withdraw from Golan Heights - Netanyahu

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu tours the Golan Heights near the Syrian border, April 11, 2016. (Kobi Gideon/GPO)

The Golan Heights will forever remain part of Israel, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declared Sunday during the first-ever cabinet meeting held on the Golan.

Speaking in the Israeli town of Ma’aleh Gamla, next to an archaeological site where Jewish rebels stood off against Roman soldiers nearly 2,000 years ago, Netanyahu said he told US Secretary of State John Kerry on Saturday that Israel does not oppose current efforts to reach a political agreement to end the Syrian civil war, but that Israel’s boundary line with the country will not change.

“I convened this celebratory meeting in the Golan Heights to send a clear message: The Golan will always remain in Israel’s hands. Israel will never withdraw from the Golan Heights,” he declared.

Israel captured the Golan Heights in the 1967 Six Day War from Syria and annexed it in 1981. The international community never accepted Israel’s annexation, and Israeli leaders see in the turmoil in Syria a chance to convince the world to recognize Israeli sovereignty over the Golan.

The meeting was the first ever held by the cabinet in the territory.

In his conversation with Kerry, Netanyahu said it was doubtful Syria can ever become again what it was. The prime minister told the top US diplomat that Jerusalem would not oppose a peace agreement for Syria, “on the condition that it doesn’t come at the cost of Israel’s security,” he said.

The Israel’s side of the border, where some 50,000 people live — among them Syrian Druze who do not recognize Israeli sovereignty — is characterized by a flourishing community working in agriculture and tourism, while the Syrian part of the Golan is a war-torn area where minorities are being persecuted, he said.

“It is time that the international community recognized reality,” Netanyahu said. “Whatever happens on the other side of the border, the border itself will not move. Secondly, after 50 years it is time that the international community realized that the Golan will remain under Israeli sovereignty.”

Netanyahu added: “The Golan was an integral part of the Land of Israel in ancient times. That is documented by dozens of ancient synagogues around us. And the Golan is an integral part of the State of Israel in the present time.”

During the 19 years, from 1948-1967, in which the area was “under Syrian occupation,” it was used mostly for warfare against Israel, he said.

Netanyahu vows Golan Heights will remain part of Israel forever | The Times of Israel

Golan Heights oil reserves

Trying to pass off land theft as historical right, but really it's about something else that just happens to have been invested in heavily by people such as Rupert Murdoch, Joe Biden....

[QUOTE="Hans Mann" Israel will never withdraw from the Golan Heights,” he declared.[/QUOTE]

declares Netanyahu when Syria is on its knees.

Israelis have been eerily quiet for a while.

Great.

I hope Israel keeps the West Bank too.

The Arabs got 75% of the Palestinian territory that Britain held the mandate for after WW1.

They wanted the lot, still do and they want Europe now.

They can get lost, weep rivers of blood and just carry on bumping themselves off as they do until they're all nothing more than a bad dream, the inbred bunch of grafting, grabbing, greedy no-hopers.

^

spot on.

Thieving Israeli bastards. They'll give Jews a bad name.

Netanyahu is talking common sense from a military viewpoint,
never give up your high ground when you are surrounded by armed groups who want to drive you into the sea.
They will never let the Syrians have it who would want to launch a attack in the future
if they think they could use it as a springboard to invade the plains below.

Originally Posted by Hans Mann

“It is time that the international community recognized reality,”

Careful what you wish for Bibi.

On 19 June 1967, the Israeli cabinet voted to return the Golan to Syria in exchange for a peace agreement, although this was rejected after the Khartoum Resolution of September 1, 1967. In the aftermath of the 1973 Yom Kippur War, in which Syria tried but failed to recapture the Golan, Israel agreed to return about 5% of the territory to Syrian civilian control. This part was incorporated into a demilitarised zone that runs along the ceasefire line and extends eastward. This strip is under the military control of UNDOF.

If you can't beat the bastards go back and beat your wifes and daughters.

Originally Posted by Norton

Originally Posted by Hans Mann

“It is time that the international community recognized reality,”

Careful what you wish for Bibi.

Aside that, I'm sure that this extremist has a narrow/blind ideal of what an "international community" might consist of....

Originally Posted by Norton

Originally Posted by Hans Mann

“It is time that the international community recognized reality,”

Careful what you wish for Bibi.

hopefully it will come true.... and bibi will be slung in jail for the rest of his life along with the rest of them .

Originally Posted by taxexile

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spot on.

Yes, occasionally ENT is lucid, and this is one of those times.

Originally Posted by ENT

The remaining 23% of British mandate Palestine was then further divided by the UN (1947) to create the State of Israel

Absolute nonsense.

Originally Posted by ENT

British Mandate territory of Palestine 1920




British mandate territory of Palestine 1921, .....after 73% of that territory was handed over to Arab Palestinians in the creation of Transjordan.

The remaining 23% of British mandate Palestine was then further divided by the UN (1947) to create the State of Israel, ceding a total of 93% of the original mandated Palestine to Arabs.

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"“… establishing a Jewish National Home in Palestine west of the Jordan and a separate Arab entity in Palestine east of the Jordan. Abdullah, if installed in authority in Transjordan, could preside over the creation of such an Arab entity.”

The British Mandate: Creation of Jordan

Rather irrelevant - as the affairs of the region was never any business of Europeans.....though, they forced it in such a manner.

As it is true to their nature, Westerners invent historic ideals as it suits their cause.

Wonder which country will be stupid enough to make a comment about this land theft by the israelis, or worse still, do anything? Won't be Japan - they learn't their lesson.

March 11, 2010
MOFA: Statement by Press Secretary/Director-General for Press and Public Relations, Ministry of Foreign Affairs, on the decision of the Government of Israel regarding the construction of housing units at settlements in West Bank including East Jerusa

January 11, 2011
MOFA: Statement by Mr. Seiji Maehara, Minister for Foreign Affairs of Japan, on the demolition of the Shepherd?s Hotel in East Jerusalem

March 8, 2011:
Japan Increases Food Support to Palestinian People


HEBRON, March 8, 2011 (WAFA) – A hand-over ceremony today between Japan and the United Nations World Food Programme (WFP) marks Japan’s continued commitment to provide food assistance to the poorest of the poor in the West Bank, occupied Palestinian territory.

Japan’s contribution of US$ 3.1 million comes in support of the Palestinian Authority (PA) Ministry of Social Affairs Social Safety Net reform plan.


“The Japanese Government is determined to continue its support to the Palestinian people”, said Mr. Naofumi Hashimoto, Representative of Japan to the Palestinian National Authority. “This support comes from a human security perspective as well as from its political stand for the Palestinian efforts to establish a viable independent Palestinian state and to develop the capacities of governmental and local institutions in providing basic daily services to people.


Israeli firm?s cameras recording Japanese nuclear core - Defense - Jerusalem Post
"Japan’s Fukushima nuclear power plant, hi-tech security cameras installed by an Israeli defense firm are recording events at t....."

Date 12 March 2011
Location Ōkuma, Fukushima, Japan
Coordinates 37°25′17″N 141°1′57″E
Outcome INES Level 7 (Major accident)[2][3]
Non-fatal injuries 37 with physical injuries,[4][not in citation given]
2 workers taken to hospital with possible radiation burns[5]


This is a service announcement brought to you by AIPAC and ADL - don't fuck with the israeli's slaughter of the Palestinians - they will launch massive terror attacks on your country.

Rather irrelevant - as the affairs of the region was never any business of Europeans.....though, they forced it in such a manner.[/QUOTE]

Why did the Romans call that land Judea 2,000 years ago ?
Wasn't it because the majority of the inhabitants were Jews?
(Yes, this would pre-date Mohamedism and the Crusades.)

I won't enter the waters of how the "Europeans forced it in such a manner" throughout the Americas, the South Pacific (Oz & NZ inclusive) and Africa.

Originally Posted by PeeCoffee

Rather irrelevant - as the affairs of the region was never any business of Europeans.....though, they forced it in such a manner.

Why did the Romans call that land Judea 2,000 years ago ?
Wasn't it because the majority of the inhabitants were Jews?
(Yes, this would pre-date Mohamedism and the Crusades.)

I won't enter the waters of how the "Europeans forced it in such a manner" throughout the Americas, the South Pacific (Oz & NZ inclusive) and Africa.

Ariel Sharon was born in Palestine. Says so on his birth certificate which is oodd because he claims that Palestine doesnt and never did exist.

Anyway if you want to bring "tribes" into it, then you best remember that the ones who are brutalising the Palestinians, like BIBI etc, and all the wingnut fucking crazy settlers are Ashkenazi jews, and despite the faux "studies" by AIPAC and ADL and all the other Zionist fuckers.... the Ashkenazi jews DNA, well, they are not from the Levant, they are from Europe.

In the middle Byzantine period, the khan of Khazaria in the northern Caucasus and his court converted to Judaism, partly in order to maintain neutrality between Christian Byzantium and the Islamic world. This event forms the framework for Yehuda Halevi's work 'The Kuzari' (c.1140), but how much these traces of Judaism within this group survived the collapse of the Khazar empire is a matter of scholarly debate.

Hence why they are fair skinned, and often blonde haired when they are younger. No fucking historical right to be on that land at all. Neither have the Sephardi Jews, who originate from Spain, and not the levant.

The Mizrahi Jews are the ones actually from there, and they get on well enough with the brothers, the Palestinians. The rest "became" jews, which as we all know, you can not become jewish, but are born Jewish from a jewish mother, means that they are not really jews in the true sense of the word. Mizrahi are not typically zionists either and really want to live in peace with their historic brothers and sisters. Shame that their voices are kept quiet.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by ENT

The remaining 23% of British mandate Palestine was then further divided by the UN (1947) to create the State of Israel

Absolute nonsense.

Prove me wrong.

Map of UN partition plan for the remaining 23% of British mandate administered Jewish Palestine .




The UN designated approximately 54% of the remaining 23% of mandated territory to become the state of Israel.

Arabs received 77% of British mandate Palestine in 1921, then a further 10.58 % of the total was designated Arab land by the UN in 1947, resulting in Atabs being awarded a total of 87.58% of British mandated Palestine.

The boundaries of the new state of Israel included two narrow corridors of land connecting the three major land areas of the proposed new state of Israel, a security problem from the onset, which immediately became obvious in the ensuing the war of independence.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Ariel Sharon was born in Palestine. Says so on his birth certificate which is oodd because he claims that Palestine doesnt and never did exist.

Sharon was born in British mandated Palestine.

The Arab state of Palestine never existed until the concept of one was invented in the 1970's by the PLO, who also tried to take over rulership of Jordan at the time.

The term Black September (Arabic: أيلول الأسود‎; aylūl al-aswad) refers to the Jordanian Civil War that began in September 1970 and ended in July of 1971.

The conflict was fought between the Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO), under the leadership of Yasser Arafat, and the Jordanian Armed Forces, under the leadership of King Hussein.

The civil war determined if Jordan would be ruled by the Palestine Liberation Organisation or the Hashemite monarchy.

The war resulted in the deaths of thousands of people, the vast majority Palestinian. Armed conflict ended with the expulsion of the PLO leadership and thousands of Palestinian fighters to Lebanon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September_in_Jordan



The state of Palestine is a joke.

Originally Posted by thaimeme

As it is true to their nature, Westerners invent historic ideals as it suits their cause.

As do China, India, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, N,Africa Arab states, like Egypt and Libya the Ethiopia and Sudan wars, while many black African states interfere with each other's policies and boundaries, trying to whack each other out.

No lights in the jungle mate.

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Ariel Sharon was born in Palestine. Says so on his birth certificate which is oodd because he claims that Palestine doesnt and never did exist.

Sharon was born in British mandated Palestine.

The Arab state of Palestine never existed until the concept of one was invented in the 1970's by the PLO, who also tried to take over rulership of Jordan at the time.

The term Black September (Arabic: أيلول الأسود‎; aylūl al-aswad) refers to the Jordanian Civil War that began in September 1970 and ended in July of 1971.

The conflict was fought between the Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO), under the leadership of Yasser Arafat, and the Jordanian Armed Forces, under the leadership of King Hussein.

The civil war determined if Jordan would be ruled by the Palestine Liberation Organisation or the Hashemite monarchy.

The war resulted in the deaths of thousands of people, the vast majority Palestinian. Armed conflict ended with the expulsion of the PLO leadership and thousands of Palestinian fighters to Lebanon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September_in_Jordan



The state of Palestine is a joke.

As its a matter of record that the PLO was founded in 1964 and the Israeli's did not take over the West bank and Gaza until the 6 day war in 1967 just who was the PLO liberating it from?

Of course we can all offer our opinions and show maps etc , but at the end of the day its not about land at all , its about the wishes of most of the Arab nations to exterminate the Israeli's and make the land of Israel one big Islamic Caliphate , has there ever been a Country called Palestine ? Whats their capital , lingo and currency ? History of Palestine and Palestinians