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    Quote Originally Posted by Chittychangchang
    I didn't vote leave for any other reason other than the EU is completely unelected
    Which, of course, it's not. 40 years and you have never once in that time understood what those European Elections signs that pop up all over the place every few years are for? Seriously?

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    Interesting words by George Soros , all the doom and gloom merchant's should read it Soros warns of EU disintegration - BBC News
    What do you think he's saying, Piwi? It looks like once again you didn't read past the headline.
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    Brussels' faceless bureaucrats REVEALED... and here are their endless perks YOU pay for

    THERE'S Donald “Five limos” Tusk, foie gras-loving Martin Schulz and Monsieur Convivialité himself, Jean-Claude Juncker.

    These are just three of the five presidents employed at vast expense by the European Union; officials very few people could name let alone pick out in a police line-up. Then there are the 28 EU Commissioners, all of them on salaries that would make David Cameron think he’s in the wrong job. And many of them must dream of being Federica Mogherini.

    What? You’ve no idea who she is? Only the even-better remunerated High Representative of the Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, or – more informally – EU foreign minister. The truth is that being a member of the European Commission is a dream job.

    And you don’t have to take our word for it. Here’s how Der Spiegel magazine – compulsory reading for Berlin’s fanatically pro-European political elite – once put it: “You have a luxury life with your own driver, personal advisers, spokespeople and many additional workers – not to mention a fat salary.

    "But the best actually comes when your time in Brussels comes to an end. You get paid transitional money for three years or until you get a better job and a pension that is straight out of paradise.” So just who are these characters in the first-class compartment of the EU gravy train? Let’s find out…

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    ^lot of ignorant waffle. How much does Daily Express owner and pornographer Richard Desmond earn?

    BTW, have you ever voted in a European election?

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    It appear's that Korbynchov is prepared to sack any one who dares to appose himJeremy Corbyn SACKS Hilary Benn ?over leadership coup? | UK | News | Daily Express

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    This is worth watching

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    the morons who voted for exit
    So you don't think that the Brexit vote is, to a significant extent, the fault of Brussels etc and it's wasteful excesses, unaccountability, lack of transparency, and general insensitivity to issues and concerns that are very real to not just the People of the UK, but the EU in general? I do.

    Had the Eureaucracy been more flexible, and sensitive to the very real concerns of the People who collectively pay them, this outcome could have been avoided. I speak as one who disagrees with the vote, but respects it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    the morons who voted for exit
    So you don't think that the Brexit vote is, to a significant extent, the fault of Brussels etc and it's wasteful excesses, unaccountability, lack of transparency, and general insensitivity to issues and concerns that are very real to not just the People of the UK, but the EU in general? I do.

    Had the Eureaucracy been more flexible, and sensitive to the very real concerns of the People who collectively pay them, this outcome could have been avoided. I speak as one who disagrees with the vote, but respects it.
    Absolutely, it is to a significant extent the fault of the EU.

    Nonetheless, you must be a moron to accept, to choose for, a life outside the EU.
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    ^

    Nobody has chosen a life outside of the EU, and why do the likes of you and DrB feel the need to call everyone that doesn't share your viewpoint a 'moron'? That's expected from folks like TheSausageman who enjoys aimless rants and cliches, but becomes rather boring when many posters drop down to that level.

    It's not binary, Britain is still in Europe geographically, politically and economically, but we voted not to continue with the ever closer ties and new political framework that some bureaucrats in Europe envisage. It is clear from listening to some of these Euro commissioners and other high titled folk that they see Europe as a single governance area with them making decisions - Britain doesn't want that; we want to work with Europe, partner Europe, not be controlled by European commissioners and presidents with agendas that do not parallel our own and whom we did not elect.

    Britain still has the problems of our own useless politicians, corrupt banks and their money politics, terrible foreign policies and decades of internal mismanagement. But, now, moving forward, we will not have another layer on top of that with the same problems that is further detached and opaque to the nth degree.

    ***

    Just been looking at some currency charts because the BBC and others have been quoting chaos and disaster...

    The pound v dollar is at the same rate it was at in 2008 - doesn't sound like a 50 year low to me as per the BBC quoted on one program I watched.

    The pound v euro is higher now than the average level during the last 7 or 8 years.
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    The extent of your stupidity would appear to be only exceeded by your inability to comprehend it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    the morons who voted for exit
    So you don't think that the Brexit vote is, to a significant extent, the fault of Brussels etc and it's wasteful excesses, unaccountability, lack of transparency, and general insensitivity to issues and concerns that are very real to not just the People of the UK, but the EU in general? I do.

    Had the Eureaucracy been more flexible, and sensitive to the very real concerns of the People who collectively pay them, this outcome could have been avoided. I speak as one who disagrees with the vote, but respects it.
    You make a very good point , and I presume by lack of accountability and transparency and by that could we assume you mean some thing like this? http://fullfact.org/europe/did-auditors-sign-eu-budget/

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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi View Post
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    the morons who voted for exit
    So you don't think that the Brexit vote is, to a significant extent, the fault of Brussels etc and it's wasteful excesses, unaccountability, lack of transparency, and general insensitivity to issues and concerns that are very real to not just the People of the UK, but the EU in general? I do.

    Had the Eureaucracy been more flexible, and sensitive to the very real concerns of the People who collectively pay them, this outcome could have been avoided. I speak as one who disagrees with the vote, but respects it.
    You make a very good point , and I presume by lack of accountability and transparency and by that could we assume you mean some thing like this? http://fullfact.org/europe/did-auditors-sign-eu-budget/
    And yet again piwi doesn't read the article he refers to.

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    "Moron" is indeed too strong a word - however, it aint smart either to vote for something that most likely will make more jobs disappear, and inflation rise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo
    It's not binary, Britain is still in Europe geographically, politically and economically
    Geographically, yes. As for the rest, what are the options? You've obviously put some thought into it so you'll know that there are 7 available options for continued business with the single market, every one of those options requires payment, conformity to freedom of movement, and acceptance of EU law.

    So way do you think are the future options? How, once Britain has left the EU how will it still be in Europe economically and politically?

    And what do you mean when you say nobody has chosen a life outside the EU? That's exactly what the British electorate have chosen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo
    But we voted not to continue with the ever closer ties and new political framework that some bureaucrats in Europe envisage.
    We have not. We have voted to leave the EU in its entirety. This is not like a vote on Maastricht or the SEA, this vote is for a complete severance with the EU.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo
    we want to work with Europe, partner Europe
    Does it not strike that you that cutting yourself off entirely from the European Union is not the most sensible way to go about that?

    What do you think is going to happen now in the UK? The country is in the grip of a full-on constitutional crisis and it seems inevitable that the United Kingdom will cease to exist over the next few years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior
    "Moron" is indeed too strong a word
    Perhaps, but it's difficult to know what else to call people who would cause so much destruction based on believing two obvious lies, that money paid to to the EU would now be available for services in the UK and that there would be a stop to inward EU migration. The two central planks of the exit campaign, both of which were abandoned the day after exit won. It's also quite clear that few of the people who voted out have any idea of what the EU is or what it does. Even looking at the threads on here I see an appalling ignorance of what the EU actually is. That ignorance is nothng to do with a lack of transparency or accountability (another myth) it is ecause people are too bloody lazy to find out for themselves!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    The extent of your stupidity would appear to be only exceeded by your inability to comprehend it.
    Too many *Auslaender and Dictators like Seekingasylum is what drove british voters for a Brexit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post

    Which, of course, it's not. 40 years and you have never once in that time understood what those European Elections signs that pop up all over the place every few years are for? Seriously?
    But you must have also noticed that the candiates up for vote made their way to Brussels......by a lottery ticket or being a far distant cousin from Angela ?



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    Rubbish Herman, it was the stupidity of an ignorant and thick-headed, gullible majority who have actually believed the bilge spouted by mendacious politicians who, it transpires, haven't got a fucking clue as to what to do next.
    The country has fucked itself and the fallout engulfing the EU and other western democracies will be felt for years.

    Batten down those hatches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    And what do you mean when you say nobody has chosen a life outside the EU? That's exactly what the British electorate have chosen.
    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    We have not. We have voted to leave the EU in its entirety. This is not like a vote on Maastricht or the SEA, this vote is for a complete severance with the EU.
    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    Does it not strike that you that cutting yourself off entirely from the European Union is not the most sensible way to go about that?
    I repeat, it is not binary.

    For example, it is very likely that Britain will continue on good trading terms with Germany, Germany being the heart of Federal Europe. Merkel is already softening her tone, no doubt under pressure from German businesses; we know that German wants to keep exporting to Britain. On that interesting video on the Brexit thread, we saw that Britain does not have a trade deal with India or Australia, for example, because these deals have been blocked by other European states - we will now be able to make these trade deals. We will also make trade deals with other international partners aswellas our existing European partners (I envisage these as being quite similar to existing EU treaties, but nobody really knows). Within five years, I expect Britain to be in a better economic situation as our global partnerships increase - actually, Britain is in a perfect position due to our relationships with North America, our longstanding relationships throughout Asia and yes, our existing (and I suspect continuing) relationships in Europe.

    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    What do you think is going to happen now in the UK? The country is in the grip of a full-on constitutional crisis and it seems inevitable that the United Kingdom will cease to exist over the next few years.
    I don't know.

    Actually, if the next two years becomes a good opportunity for a united Ireland then I'd see that as a positive; I hope the majority of Irish people, both sides of the border, would too.

    Wales won't change.

    I doubt Gibraltar will change, but I'm not against some movement there.

    Scotland, they need to shut the fuk up and accept the will of Britain, just like the twats in London need to. They will not be given another vote.

    Your point of detailing the entity of the EU is plain wrong to my mind, but I think there is a basic misunderstanding between two groups of people; one believe in federalization and one do not - there is a similar argument in the US. The EU experiment has morphed into something very different from the one British people joined, so within that context the EU experiment is a failure; if other EU members think the same and whether or not the EU in its current format will collapse is up for debate. Many, many EU 'leaders' have acknowledged that the EU has lost its way and needs fixing - if it gets fixed then they should thank Britain for waking them up to their failing system. I believe the EU will just collapse, and Britain will be far better off a few years from now than most European countries.

    There is no doubt though that we have many problems in Britain and useless management from our mostly useless politicians; our entire political system seems to have become crony capitalism of the nth degree, and that needs changing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Rubbish Herman, it was the stupidity of an ignorant and thick-headed, gullible majority who have actually believed the bilge spouted by mendacious politicians who, it transpires, haven't got a fucking clue as to what to do next.
    The country has fucked itself and the fallout engulfing the EU and other western democracies will be felt for years.

    Batten down those hatches.
    I see it positive! And I want to Thank the Brits for their vote. The EU can not continue the way it did. All politicians are saying it. So lets hope the EU shapes up in a way that our "Insel Germanen" come back and suck on Euro breasts



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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman
    So lets hope the EU shapes up in a way that our "Insel Germanen" come back and suck on Euro breasts
    Angelas or Francois?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    ^

    Nobody has chosen a life outside of the EU, and why do the likes of you and DrB feel the need to call everyone that doesn't share your viewpoint a 'moron'? That's expected from folks like TheSausageman who enjoys aimless rants and cliches, but becomes rather boring when many posters drop down to that level.

    It's not binary, Britain is still in Europe geographically, politically and economically, but we voted not to continue with the ever closer ties and new political framework that some bureaucrats in Europe envisage. It is clear from listening to some of these Euro commissioners and other high titled folk that they see Europe as a single governance area with them making decisions - Britain doesn't want that; we want to work with Europe, partner Europe, not be controlled by European commissioners and presidents with agendas that do not parallel our own and whom we did not elect.

    Britain still has the problems of our own useless politicians, corrupt banks and their money politics, terrible foreign policies and decades of internal mismanagement. But, now, moving forward, we will not have another layer on top of that with the same problems that is further detached and opaque to the nth degree.

    ***

    Just been looking at some currency charts because the BBC and others have been quoting chaos and disaster...

    The pound v dollar is at the same rate it was at in 2008 - doesn't sound like a 50 year low to me as per the BBC quoted on one program I watched.

    The pound v euro is higher now than the average level during the last 7 or 8 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
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    Just been looking at some currency charts because the BBC and others have been quoting chaos and disaster...

    The pound v dollar is at the same rate it was at in 2008 - doesn't sound like a 50 year low to me as per the BBC quoted on one program I watched.
    You really are dumber than a box of rocks; the investment banks will now leave Britain along with numerous manufacturers. Do you know what that means? Do you understand what has happened to the pound? Do you know what the EU has been funding in the UK? Clearly not! Time to read up some economics!

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    ^ indeed, the economists have done so well in recent decades...

    As long as folks keep buying the BS from the banks and their paid for politicians then social development will always struggle due to so much money being skimmed off by the banks and financial institutions.

    Britain's banking institutions are at the very heart of global banking corruption, and the City of London offers the base for their corrupt dealings; they won't be going anywhere...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    ^ indeed, the economists have done so well in recent decades...

    As long as folks keep buying the BS from the banks and their paid for politicians then social development will always struggle due to so much money being skimmed off by the banks and financial institutions.

    Britain's banking institutions are at the very heart of global banking corruption, and the City of London offers the base for their corrupt dealings; they won't be going anywhere...
    Another dumb post from somebody who cannot see past the end of their nose; OK traders make massive profits, we all know about that but like it or not they generate billions of pounds worth of business. When the investment banks leave, which they will the economy will stagnate. That means no new jobs and as for what remains in respect of Europe there will be import tariffs which mean more job losses as companies look to shed their losses.

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    The 2008 financial crisis cost the U.S. economy more than $22 trillion, a study by the Government Accountability Office published Thursday said.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2687553.html

    Which raises the question, how much did - the bank bailouts actually cost us? And how much are they still costing us?
    Fortunately, the National Audit Office has looked into this - with a report out in July this year. It shows the level of financial support given by the government to the Banks since 2009. The report tries to make an assessment of how much they still owe us now, after repayments, fees and interest. The headline figure is £456.33bn, down from £612.58bn in March 2010. The peak was a mighty £1.162 trillion. The total outstanding support is 31% of March's GDP.

    http://www.theguardian.com/news/data...-credit-crunch

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    LMAO at investment banks leaving London. The UK can now create an environment even more attractive for investment unshackled and unburdened by EU rules and regulations, I see a great future for the UK in a few years down the road, we've got out first before the whole doomed project comes crashing down.

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